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> Edison, Robert Goddard, Einstein, Hawking, Tsilkovsky, Schrodigner, Faraday, Maxwell, Newton, Tesla all the great musicians and painters, sculpters and writers, I don't know of any that needed war, poverty or strife to do their work. Even Von Braun only dabbled in war as a means to find funding for what he wanted to do for peace.[/bq]
I never said **all** technology was derived from war, but a great deal was. There's a great deal of butterfly effect that goes on as well. No WWII? Von Braun likely wouldn't have done the work he did. That work not exist? We wouldn't have the Saturn V rocket that enabled flights to the moon. No cold war with Russia? No impetus for the space race to prove national superiority. No space race? We likely wouldn't have a space program near as advanced as we today. And you would not believe the amount of things you take for granted on a daily basis that came about due to the space race, and NASA in particular. The way it's set up, everything that NASA invents is released to the public. No patents. NASA has a list of things on their website that they've invented over the years that has found it's way into the public sector. And it's literally as long as your arm.
One quick example I can guarantee you're literally using right now: Heat pipes. The heat piping in your computer's heatsink/fan assembly is a NASA invention. It consists of pressurized tubes with channels filled with liquid, usually purified water. The tubes run through the heatplate and heatsink and absorb the heat until it boils. The water is then drawn away by capillary action in the channels until it reaches the heatsink and fan, which cools the water, it recondensates, flows back down, and repeats the process. NASA invented it for cooling space craft hardware.
Don't mistake what I said for "War is great, and things only happen because of it."
In a world where magic solves many problems, it's only logical that some of the technology we developed to solve some of those same problems never happened. And the technological leaps we made due to conflict would also not likely happen, given a country that is at relative peace for thousands of years.
What the Fluff?
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> Edison, Robert Goddard, Einstein, Hawking, Tsilkovsky, Schrodigner, Faraday, Maxwell, Newton, Tesla all the great musicians and painters, sculpters and writers, I don't know of any that needed war, poverty or strife to do their work. Even Von Braun only dabbled in war as a means to find funding for what he wanted to do for peace.
I never said **all** technology was derived from war, but a great deal was. There's a great deal of butterfly effect that goes on as well. No WWII? Von Braun likely wouldn't have done the work he did. That work not exist? We wouldn't have the Saturn V rocket that enabled flights to the moon. No cold war with Russia? No impetus for the space race to prove national superiority. No space race? We likely wouldn't have a space program near as advanced as we today. And you would not believe the amount of things you take for granted on a daily basis that came about due to the space race, and NASA in particular. The way it's set up, everything that NASA invents is released to the public. No patents. NASA has a list of things on their website that they've invented over the years that has found it's way into the public sector. And it's literally as long as your arm.
One quick example I can guarantee you're literally using right now: Heat pipes. The heat piping in your computer's heatsink/fan assembly is a NASA invention. It consists of pressurized tubes with channels filled with liquid, usually purified water. The tubes run through the heatplate and heatsink and absorb the heat until it boils. The water is then drawn away by capillary action in the channels until it reaches the heatsink and fan, which cools the water, it recondensates, flows back down, and repeats the process. NASA invented it for cooling space craft hardware.
Don't mistake what I said for "War is great, and things only happen because of it."
In a world where magic solves many problems, it's only logical that some of the technology we developed to solve some of those same problems never happened. And the technological leaps we made due to conflict would also not likely happen, given a country that is at relative peace for thousands of years.