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Some Indian guy complained that Apu was “offensive” and didn’t portray Indians correctly. He also complained that Apu’s voice actor is bad since he’s not Indian (he’s white).
 
A bunch of shite to me.
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Hari Kondabolu, an Indian-American stand-up comic made a documentary about Apu not being the best representation for Indians. The documentary aired on TruTv last month.
 
I haven’t seen it, but I can’t help but feel it’s kind of a waste of time. The Simpsons makes fun of everyone (where’s the documentary for Bumblebee Man or Groundskeeper Willie), and Apu has grown from a stereotype to a rounded three-dimensional character. In regards to being voiced by Hank Azaria, that’s the beauty of voice acting. There’s no rule stating that only a person from this race should voice that character. As long as the voice fits and the person can emote well, there shouldn’t be a problem.
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Yeah, but his point was the Apu character created negative stereotypes of South Asians that were picked up and parroted by non-Indian people in the form of racial microaggressions and slurs against people of Indian and South Asian heritage
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The Apu thing just feels like someone looking for anything to bitch about. Dedicating a movie to complain about a fictional character doesn’t “portray” YOU right. First world as hell. A lot of
 
The only people talking about Aou are the same rags that lach onto this type of This is a nontraversy, just some rich out-of-touch comedian looking to get some quick fame and cry about it.
 
Let’s be real; there are far worse ways to stereotype a character from south-Asia, and I’m sure he knows that, but doesn’t actually care.
 
Everyone gets shit as a kid, you’re supposed to grow up and move on.
 
Let me put this in perspective: Principal Skinner is a Vietnam war vet that suffers PTSD and look how he’s been treated.  
I could go on for a while, but I think you get the point.
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@Holofan4life  
You know you can edit your comments to add more stuff, right?
 
One of these days I’ll have to watch the Doc so I can a better understanding. I believe Hollywood shares 99% of the blame for South Asians representation than just The Simpsons.
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@PonyPon  
Apparently, Hari Kondabolu, a stand-up comic who I’m sure is just hilarious, says that Apu is racist because:  
“He was created by a room of white men solely to mock first-generation Indian immigrants running convenience stores, an easy and voiceless target that couldn’t necessarily fight back against that representation. Apu embodies every stereotype about Indians and leans in to these stereotypes even when they contradict each other: Apu has a Ph.D, yet he’s also running a convenience store [which seems more like a commentary on how higher education doesn’t guarantee you a high-paying job or at worst, on how America isn’t always super-good to immigrants]. Even his origins are blurry, lending the character a monolithic quality and a sense that the writers really didn’t care about getting his heritage right; Apu is at times Bengali, South Indian, possibly Tamil, and Kannadigas.”  
Also “Most South Asian actors speaking in the film agree that they’ve been damaged by Apu in some way. Many are commonly asked to put on “the Apu accent,” and if they don’t comply, they would lose the job to the next willing South Asian actor. Even [Aziz] Ansari recalled men driving by him and his dad, shouting, ‘Hey, I need to get a Slurpee, can you tell me where the Kwik-E-Mart is [where they sell Squishies, not Slurpees]? Thank you; come again!’” And then there’s stuff about lack of diversity. (source:The Verge, who also called “The Simpsons is like your racist grandfather. And if he can’t change, maybe it’s time for him to die. And you can just remember the good stuff about him” a punchline for some reason. bracketed comments by me)
 
So, basically:  
-Created by white people. How dare those racists add ethnic diversity to their show?  
-Voiced by a white guy. Making Hank Azaria ‘answer for’ Apu came up a few times in the article. That a woman voices Bart, Nelson and Ralph, or actors like Phil Lamarr and Kevin Michael Richardson having voiced white and Asian characters did not. As they shouldn’t.  
-Is a caricature with stereotypes and stuff, unlike any other Simpsons characters. No comment for totally not stereotypes like Ned Flanders or Comic Book Guy. Nor for caricatures of specific people, like Drederick Tatum, mayor Quimby or Rainier Wolfcastle.  
-Sometimes people use Apu when they’re being assholes and refusing to do what a casting person asks for usually doesn’t get an actor the part. Which is clearly the show’s fault.  
-Jokes about Indians working at convenience stores are easy. Which…I guess, but so is every joke involving Comic Book Guy. They’re not all gonna be witty and insightful, folks. Also, Indian-Americans can be mocked because they have no voice with which to object. Well, except now. And when this came up before over a promotion for the movie. But aside from when they had voices, they were voiceless.  
-Apu portrays Indian people negatively. He’s usually a nice guy, as good a father as can be expected given the situation, has a better work ethic than the majority of Springfield, graduated top of his class, has a good sense of humor, kind of invented computer games, seems pretty well-liked by others and has a religion that he usually honors, but it doesn’t define him. What a scumbag?  
-Over the course of 30 or so years and soooo many writers coming and going, a b or c-list character’s exact region of origin hasn’t stayed entirely consistent! They’d never do that to someone like, say, groundskeeper Willie! Hank Azaria will hang for this!  
-Nothing to say about Manjula, I guess.
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Especially when you consider that Carl and Dr. Hibbert (black), and bumblebee man (hispanic) are all voiced by white guys, and Smithers’ (gay) VA is straight; and yet you don’t see people from those groups pitching a fit about it.
 
And let’s not forget Cleveland Brown, a black character voiced by a white guy who originated on Family Guy and would later star in his own spin-off show that would last for 4 seasons and 88 episodes; and as you may have guessed the amount of outrage over it was so minuscule, the cricket choir was practically deafening.
 
@Holofan4life  
It must take very fragile nerves to be triggered from being told “Thank you, come again”.
 
And if he points to Apu and Manjula’s eight children as portraying the stereotype of Indians having tons and tons of offspring, he’s either unaware or just flat-out ignoring their origin episode where they were the result of Manjula having octuplets.
Ardashir
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I remember how years ago I read a thread where some writer was asking how to ‘do’ various ethnic characters ‘properly’ in fiction. When he was told that he couldn’t give them any flaws because that was suggesting that ‘every one of You People are Like This’, he said that okay, he’d make them perfect.
 
And was then told that if he did that he was making them ‘unrealistically imperfect’ and insulting their real life struggle.
 
He concluded with: “So, if I make them flawed like real people, that’s racist.”
 
“If I make them flawless, that’s racist.”
 
“Maybe I’d better not use them at all.”
 
Response? “Oh, that’s racist too!”
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@Ardashir  
Sounds about right. Creativity only exists to display a person’s hatred, after all.  
So does that mean the way to do ethnic characters is to have them call everything racist? Assuming the people saying that weren’t just white people trying to earn ‘One of the good ones’ points.
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