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Woah. I never said anything about not being offended about you being killed. In fact, I didn’t even know that was happening.
I just misunderstood the message.
 
And now you know better. That’s the point of my message. The point being that yeah, we’re going to be angry, and yeah, we’re going to step on your feelings. Because if we’re not angry, nothing changes.
 
Or to put this a little bit differently: trying to make everything nice is a way oppressors work to keep people from trying to actually change things. That’s why I pointed out that getting more offended over problematic behavior being pointed out is part of the problem, because it only helps those who oppress and those who benefit from said oppression. After all, “when you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”
 
You seem like you’re fairly ignorant, which is fine so long as you’re willing to correct that. Being ignorant isn’t bad, so long as it isn’t willful. Just don’t take it personally if people get mad at you when you say ignorant things, because if you do you miss the whole point, and you’re taking the wrong thing away from the situation.
 
Besides, can you blame people for getting angry? I mean jeez especially in the United States it’s incredible what just saying things like this can do. Some people point out that hey, yeah, Black Lives Matter because they do and you know maybe cops shouldn’t kill them all the time, and the US was so amazingly racist it started a whole movement called Blue Lives Matter to tell black people where to stick it.
 
To make clear what I just said in my last paragraph: you can’t move forward with the rights of disenfranchised groups without recognizing that those groups are the ones who don’t have their rights recognized. Thus messages like this image, and Black Lives Matter, which are pointing out the ones who are being disenfranchised. This is why changing the message to, say, “All Lives Matter” is directly harmful to the whole reason the message is being stated. It’s pointing out a problem that exists.
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Uh it’s very possible to misinterpret the message, especially if you have mental disorders like I do.
 
Also, no I don’t. I actually rarely comment on LGBT images and if I do, it’s usually to say I love the image. I’ve only made similar comments on one or two other images.
 
 
@Background Human  
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It’s impossible for someone to misunderstand the message unless they do so intentionally, and arguing that it’s possible is arguing for the sake of arguing about something, anything.
 
You appear on practically every image regarding LGBT matters with the same sort of posts; please stop. Intentionally or not, you’re creating a vector for pointless arguments for those that just want to argue in bad faith or feel they must say something negative about the image without clearly stating their actual dislike for the artist’s obvious intent.
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@Havock  
That’s for the best. ^^
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@AaronMk  
Okay.
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I’m not saying people should be the same, I just think there are much better ways to get the message across.
Look at Martin Luther King Jr, or Ghandi.
 
The comparisons fail because it overlooks everything else they sought to do in order to grasp at that one thoroughly colonized quote so often tossed about liberals. That, “It’s great to be acknowledged for the content of one’s character” and so on. But it fundamentally ignores the recognition that first has be to achieved for a person as a valid character in order for that content of one’s character to come about. Namely the oppressed group, the black, the Native American, the Latino, the Trans, the Gay, etc. has to have the matter of them being that to be accepted as a valid identity, and to win recognition at the level of being white and cis.
 
To say, “Black Lives Matter” and “Trans Rights are Human Rights” is not to proclaim an exception to the rules, but to draw acknowledgement. “All Lives Matter” or any sort of tepid neutralization of such message revokes the acknowledgement from the statement and detracts from its effect. It is like chanting, “all people should be recognized by the content of their character, not by the color of the skin” while somewhere a black kid is shot sleeping in his car by the police, or because he was walking through a neighborhood that he perhaps lived in all his life but someone freaked out because the only identity of a black person they’re willing to recognize is blacks being criminal; so if they’re in the neighborhood they must be up to some crimes.
 
Likewise to say, “Trans people don’t actually suffer any issues” is to overlook the paternalism of Yer Dad’s griping on about how they should only do their thing somewhere else, or how they must actually be confused and it’s a phase and they should grow out of it or be psychoanalyzed out of it. Or that there’s nothing happening when Trans people are ostracized out of society or their families.
 
It’s a Francis Fukuyama view of civil rights. We’ve reached the end of history, there’s nothing more to be done. The struggle is over and we’ve reached the Absolute Moment. When really there’s much, much more to be done.
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@Background Pony #7762  
Woah. I never said anything about not being offended about you being killed. In fact, I didn’t even know that was happening.
 
I just misunderstood the message.
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Background Pony #A717
The wording of this shouldn’t be changed because to do so would miss the whole point, that being that you can’t claim to support human rights without supporting trans rights and if you think otherwise you are being transphobic. And it doesn’t matter how offended you feel over the “insult” because your feeling hurt over having your transphobia pointed out only proves what is said about you is true.
 
That’s not “arrogant.” That is how we trans folk fight for ourselves. And remember folks: what’s academic for you is our lives. We are killed every day because our right to exist goes unrecognized. And if you’re more offended by us saying that our rights are human rights than by us literally being murdered because we exist, you are part of the problem.
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@sishooves  
Oh. Sorry. No harm done. ^^
 
Stuff like that happens. ^^
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@TheMultiBrony21  
sorry, things are a bit unoverviewable and i confused you with someone else on the thread.
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@sishooves  
I’m not a transphobe and I never said I was comparing you not wanting to be killed to establishing a estostate.
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@AaronMk  
I’m not saying people should be the same, I just think there are much better ways to get the message across.
 
Look at Martin Luther King Jr, or Ghandi.
 
 
@Spring32  
Message is great, the way it’s worded can easily be taken as arrogant.
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@Spring32
Implying they are better than others.
Actually, they fight becuase they are treated worse than the others
For example by People like you that seperating them from the others.
sticks and stones
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@TheMultiBrony21
Aaah okay- yeah, I certainly didn’t intend for the message to come off as arrogant, so I apologize if it read that way.
 
It was a great message. Don’t listen to those who are saying that it was arrogant.
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@Spring32
So change the wording a bit and it might work.
“Trans are people, too.” That sounds way better.
 
The issue with this, especially proposed as the only acceptable phrase for the Trans movement or any movement is it strips their identity and recognition as a group. You are proposing what is often thrown at the left: you want everyone to be the same.
 
I guess the Enlightened Center (tm) just wants us all to be the same then!
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@Spring32
Implying they are better than others.
Actually, they fight becuase they are treated worse than the others
For example by People like you that seperating them from the others.
sticks and stones
 
may break my bones
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No problem.
 
Basically, I’m a very literal person sometimes. (Think Draax from Guardians of the Galaxy, some words fly right over my head).
 
But it’s on me, no need to apologize. ^^
 
Also, love your artwork! ^^
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Thank you so much! <3
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@TheMultiBrony21  
Aaah okay- yeah, I certainly didn’t intend for the message to come off as arrogant, so I apologize if it read that way.
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Yup.
 
Also, as a sidenote, I have nothing against Trans People and actually support them.
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@Spring32
Implying they are better than others.
Actually, they fight becuase they are treated worse than the others
For example by People like you that seperating them from the others.
 
sticks and stones