Which ponies would you like to see featured in a JOIP? Now you can vote for your favorites in the pony poll
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If you donāt have a Patreon account, feel free to simply comment here with the ponies youād like to see. That way, you can also rank them accordingly.
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Iām excited to hear your suggestions! :D
@Cinderfall Ā
Breddy good stuff, keep it up. As other said, clop on Milovana was an unexpected, but not unwelcomed sight. Ā
>selection of pics Ā
If you cant find pics that fit the tease, try it backwards - find a collection of thematically similair pics and write a tease around them. Just a suggestion. Ā
>voice actress quit Ā
Thats a damned shame. Fortunately I know for a fact that some people are trying to feed clips from the show to an algorythm/AI so it can spit out given sentences in the characters voices. Its taking forever tho, not sure how far did they got currently.
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Anyway, looking up to other characters teases in the future. Ā
Also, a simple spelling error, used āmeā instead of āmyā at single point in a tease.
@Morexis Ā
I didnāt realize itād be so difficult to find enough matching images. A potentially good way to alleviate it a bit would be to create or commission a set of character emotions to use for dialogue between the nsfw images. Kinda like how some animation youtubers use one character and āanimateā their words/emotions by sliding through slightly different character expressions. Doing it yourself with Inkscape wouldnāt be terribly hard either, you can trace a lot of character models straight from the show and play around with different faces in a very time effective manner. Ā
Something like that might add a little more foundation to the scene and the character the player is interacting with. Just a idea. Ā
Glad the other critiques were helpful, its a shame the voice part didnāt work out but this one was good even without it. Ā
Goodluck on the next one, Iāll be sure to check it out!
@Cinderfall Ā
Thanks for the feedback!
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I absolutely agree with your critiques on the script and the end game buttons. Iāll do my best to improve that.
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However, your point with the images is a difficult one. Iāve already downloaded about 1,200 images for these games and I still often find myself searching for a fitting image. My image choice is so restricted that I donāt really have the freedom to further restrict myself like you proposed. Doing that would ultimately lead to repetitive images which I donāt think is a good solution.
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As for your final point with the inclusion of the name, thatās actually pretty easy to do in the program Iām using. The only reason I didnāt implement something like this, is because, for most of the working process, the JOIP was supposed to include a voice actress, which obviously wouldnāt have worked with the name.
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Well, thanks again for the comment. The next game is already in the making. ;)
Goodjob, itās a shame we donāt have more JOIs, or JOI games for mlp. Glad to see someone doing it.
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Just a few critiques I had after playing through it once.
Ā Sticking to anthro, humanized, or pony: Since this is, to some extent, supposed to be a continuous scene, the art you select should probably be consistent to a single body type, and if possible one art style. Its a bit jarring to go from Enormously big tittied anthro shy, to hyper petite, to pony, to etc, etc. With that, if a viewer ends up sitting through a body type or art quality they arenāt into for 30 seconds to 2 minutes they arenāt likely to trust the game to deliver images that are to their liking in the future. That mistrust turns the excitement of āoh whats next?ā into āplease be something decent, my pants are already down.ā thatās not the feeling you want to create with image scrolling JOIs. Consistency is key
Ā Script needed editing and revising: The main problem with the dialogue is that a lot of it feels stiff and out of character. Lines like āSo how about you stroke very slowly for these tits for one and a half minutes?ā are pretty jarring given how inorganic they sound, and how it isnāt the way FS the character would communicate that request. Improving your dialogue is pretty easy to do though, just read through the words out loud or with a TTS reader, and see if they feel natural to say. This is harder if youāre not a native speaker, but there are patterns to normal English dialogue that feel awkward if not present. If youāve ever watched Teen Titans, Starfireās Dialogue is often intentionally written awkwardly because sheās an alien and as such doesnāt perfectly understand the natural patterns of English speaking. Ā
Once youāve read everything out loud and made the edits to make it sound natural, then read the lines silently imagining FSās character speaking them. If something is out of character, it should become more obvious by imagining her actual voice saying the lines.
Ā End game buttons: For scrolling JOIs you should keep in mind that as you get closer to the end, the player is going to be less and less able to interact with a mouse and keyboard, for obvious reasons. If you manage to get the player engrossed all the way up to the edging, itās not a good idea to risk taking them out of it with button clicks or choices. Instead try to incorporate these choices earlier in the game when the player can interact more with the character. Ā
Example Ā
FS: āwell, um, (player name) Iāve been wonderingā what do you think is my- um hottest feature?ā a, b, c, d Ā
Player input: ābā Ā
FS: āYou think my bās are cute?ā >giggles āI had no ideaā Ā
ā¦ Ā
Some time later Ā
FS: āI know youāre getting close, just hold out a little longerā¦ I want you to finish on my bā Ā
Branch off to b ending without needing input
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Also Iām pretty sure you can store a string input from the player for a name which you can bake into the lines of dialogue for a really awesome touch of having the character actually say the playerās name. Though Iām coming from Ren.py, this is a pretty standard feature on most text adventure builders, and itās definitely worth looking into if you plan on making more.
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Thatās most of what I had to say. Hope it helps! Keep up the good work.
@Endgame Ā
The voice actress quit the project after I had waited for the recording for over a monthā¦ Iād love to do something with a voice actress but there are hardly any who are open to explicit scripts.
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Iād love to stay in contact and exchange some JOIP plans and ideas. Particularly if youāre going to create one yourself now! :D
@Endgame Ā
Thanks for the nice words! Ā My first JOIP had a lot more options and a lot of paths but I wanted to try something simpler for my first time with the EOS editor. Ā
I donāt know my way around milovana yet, but Iāll familiarize myself with it and try to be more active on there in the future. Ā
Also, since you now know that JOIPs are welcome in the clop community, Iām waiting for your first one! :D
@dualreason Ā
Youāve brought up good points, however since I didnāt code the JOIP myself, I simlpy donāt know how or if I can implement them. Ā
In the future, I will definetly pay more attention to your fourth point though. The pacing, flow and energy of the JOIP is far from perfect. Ā
I think I can also find a way to deal with your second point. I could set it up in such a way that you have to press continue to advance to the next image/page. Ā
As for the text and images, I donāt know how to make hyperlinks. For now, you have to copy paste the links into your browser.
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Thank you very much for the extensive feedback, Iāll keep your points in mind next time. :)
The coding seems pretty solid, though imho it feels too rigid. For the timed parts, Iād suggest having a different key you have to press if you want to skip it. That way you avoid the issue of people inadvertently skipping right past it while still allowing players some freedom over their play-through. Ā
In that vein, a pause button may be appropriate too; right now images just advance on their own after a delay. I feel compelled to open another tab, browse for a while, then return to the game to see a random image since it effectively plays itself. Ā
Hyperlinking each image to the source (Derpibooru, Twitter, etc) would be appreciated to pay respect to the artists who made the artwork. The Ponyville Brothel had that issue too where you could find some great art in the app, but not be able to track down the original artist to find more Ā
Iād put this roughly in the category of Cock Hero video series, which has a lot of rapid scene transitions. At a minimum Iād expect the mandatory waits to increase in duration as you play. Having the first wait be a minute and a half (rather than like 10 seconds) I suspect would scare off a lot of players, particularly since the first image is SFW. I donāt suppose youāre collecting analytics on how far each user is getting into the game are you? Looking at those numbers may be a good indicator for how people interact with this and where they have issues. Ā
There are hyperlinks in the text at the end, are we supposed to be able to click those? I attempt to click the link and instead of opening a page, the next line of dialog appears