Starlicorn should not imply xk-class end-of-the-world scenario

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Why do you think “derpicorn” should automatically imply “xk-class end-of-the-world scenario”?
 
Not all “Starlight Glimmer” images are “glimmerbetes” … do you think that the tag “glimmerbetes” shouldn’t ever be used if it’s not automatically implied?
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so your “compelling argument” against it is “a perfect stranger who has an opinion that bothers me enjoys a thing so i want to take that thing away to retaliate”. this is how you ask people to do something on your behalf that they don’t have to do and, along with many others, don’t necessarily wish to do?
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It’s a community based joke on a small set of images and doesn’t make it more difficult to find the images it’s tagged on. If the implied tag somehow made it more difficult for the site in general to discover those images, then that’s one thing. But that isn’t the case here.
 
Here’s a separate question: What do you feel the tag is doing that is harmful to the images it’s on? Why is it being on them an issue that needs to be corrected? So far the only reason I’ve seen stated is that some people don’t find it funny. [Unless I’ve missed other reasons, in which case I apologize.]
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@Background Pony #7AC8
Why do you think “derpicorn” should automatically imply “xk-class end-of-the-world scenario”?
Not all “Starlight Glimmer” images are “glimmerbetes” … do you think that the tag “glimmerbetes” shouldn’t ever be used if it’s not automatically implied?
I think you may be misreading what I said (or perhaps I didn’t make it clear enough). I don’t think that “derpicorn” should automatically imply that tag. I was just trying to say that I find it odd that Starlight’s does automatically imply it when an alicorn version of the klutzy, accident prone Derpy doesn’t and (as I pointed out earlier) the alicorn versions of Trixie and Sunset, who have arguably more canonical reasons to imply that tag than Starlight, do not either.
 
Seriously, I don’t have any issues with joke tags. I just find the automatic implication that alicorn Starlight means the end of all things kind of strange.
 
 
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so your “compelling argument” against it is “a perfect stranger who has an opinion that bothers me enjoys a thing so i want to take that thing away to retaliate”. this is how you ask people to do something on your behalf that they don’t have to do and, along with many others, don’t necessarily wish to do?
…Ok, let me try and clarify this.
 
Your initial comment, which I took (perhaps erroneously, if so that’s on me and I apologize for it) as an argument for maintaining the alicorn Starlight tag’s implied connection to the “xk-class end-of-the-world scenario” tag, was because you find the pairing “funny and amusing”. And my comment was intended to convey that I do not find your amusement at the tag combination all that good a reason, considering that you often cannot seem to even mention the character without including some type of derogatory comment. I was not in any way trying to say that the implied tag should be taken away because you “a perfect stranger who has an opinion that bothers me” enjoys it and I want to retaliate against you. I just think that as far as arguments for maintaining the connection is concerned, “it amuses this guy who constantly expresses his dislike of the character” is a pretty poor one.
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@Background Pony #0326  
posting using both your username and as-anon posts in the same thread is against the site’s rules as people use it to make it seem like more people are agreeing with them.
 
@Background Pony #7AC8  
it’s an entirely pointless argument, and one that actually works against removing the implication because it maintains that it’s an equally poor reason to dislike the implication because you like the character.
 
not to mention, now’s probably as good a time as ever to point out that the joke behind it is actually at the expense of the people who hate the character rather than the characters herself: the joke is that if she became an alicorn the online drama would be so immense it would destroy the world.
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not to mention, now’s probably as good a time as ever to point out that the joke behind it is actually at the expense of the people who hate the character rather than the characters herself: the joke is that if she became an alicorn the online drama would be so immense it would destroy the world.
 
Do you honestly think that’s what people are going to think when they see that Starlicorn implies xk-class end-of-the-world scenario?
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@Background Pony #7AC8  
Oh, I’m sorry - I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
 
I agree - I don’t think it should imply that tag either, but that’s a community sourced thing I’m ok letting the tag wonks take care of.
 
My problem, and where it becomes a problem for me, is when some individuals simply refuse to stop mass removing the tag from images without looking to see who set the tag most recently, or why.
 
Makes the whole effort of going through the images to fix them pointless, when some people try to completely wipe the tag off the face of the site for entire ranges of images.
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@Derpy Whooves  
If Starlicorn didn’t imply xk-class end-of-the-world scenario that probably wouldn’t have been a problem into the first place.
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@Zeb  
Here’s a separate question: What do you feel the tag is doing that is harmful to the images it’s on? Why is it being on them an issue that needs to be corrected? So far the only reason I’ve seen stated is that some people don’t find it funny.
 
This part has yet to be answered outside of “I don’t like it being there and don’t think it should be”.
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@Background Pony #0326  
You’re the one asking for the change. If you’d stuck with insisting that it shouldn’t be implied, some people would agree with you.
 
But now you’re insisting that it shouldn’t even exist. The onus of proof that the tag shouldn’t even exist is on you.
 
PS: That you don’t think it funny is not proof the tag shouldn’t exist.
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@Derpy Whooves  
Obviously you either severely misunderstood what I’ve said or you’re trying to make me look bad. I’m assuming it’s the former. I’m saying the implication shouldn’t exist because it’s faster than putting ‘Starlicorn implies xk-class end-of-the-world scenario‘ every time. Especially considering how long the latter is.
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@Background Pony #0326  
Ok, I don’t have any problem with that implication being removed from starlicorn. I’m not going to do that because it’s not my role on the site, but if anyone asks me if I am ok with them removing the implication I’ll say; “Sure, go ahead”. But no one will ask me, because it’s really none of my business.
 
But I think the whole point of pinkiecorn was “xk-class end-of-the-world scenario”. I mean, that’s basically what that is all about. So removing it from that tag seems … less good. To me, at least. So I’d step over the lines of my bailiwick to raise a concern if someone were to propose that.
 
What do I care about is the tag warring. That really needs to stop. Would you agree that the people who have been tag warring about this, especially those who have been reversing staff tag changes or persisting in mass tag changes even after asked to stop, should stop?
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