[Spoiler] Should *capper* (and *catrina*) have an *anthro* tag?

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I think they should, since anyone who saw those character designs anywhere else on the internet would call them anthro, and anthro is one of those tags that people either search out with great fervor or should definitely be filtering to prevent arglebargle.
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I don’t think so.  
it’s the same reason why Iron Will seems fine (probably because a lot of people don’t attribute disliking him to disliking anthros, even if he is supposedly half human), because if we go by this thought, that if people are offended by it then it must be changed to appease their needs, there’ll be no end to which classifies as such or which don’t. I’m of this opinion, unless the show acknowledges and confirms the other half as being human, I won’t agree to tag anything in the show that’s half and half as anthro.
 
and besides TUA, there was already a thread for this here
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@toxicitzi  
there was already a thread for this
 
Apparently it got shoved so far down by new posts in other threads that it didn’t appear when I checked.
 
if people are offended by it then it must be changed to appease their needs  
That’s an awfully antagonistic and hostile attitude for a site assistant, and one that blows right past the fact that tagging for things that piss people off is kindasorta half the reason for tagging in the first place. Anthro is inarguably a genre that gets right up the pantsleg of a lot of people, and “encouraging” users to Hide a tag for it– rather than take bitchily to the comment sections to complain about it– should really be something the mod team promotes. It’s also a genre that a lot of people are reeeeeaaaaalllllyyyyy into, and I’m sure they would appreciate a way to gather together any MLP images that fall into that category. Which is the other half of the reason for tagging.
 
The presence of Homo sapiens– or lack thereof– in-universe isn’t by any means a necessary component to describing a bipedal creature with both anthropomorphic and animal characteristics as “anthro”; it’s about the visual design, not the content of the story. There are no “humans” whatsoever in the comic Lackadaisy the cat people are “human” as far as that universe and the story set in it are concerned– but anyone would be laughed off the internet if they tried to insist that it wasn’t anthro.
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@Dragonpone  
Isn’t that kind of pointless, though? Anyone who even knows that the word “capper” is a spoiler in the first place has already had it spoiled, otherwise it doesn’t mean anything. None of the posts here even provide any context for it.
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@TexasUberAlles  
I’m subscribed to the forum, so when I saw this thread I didn’t know it was a spoiler, since I have the movie spoilers hidden and didn’t even know there were new characters, so I didn’t know “capper” was a spoiler. I know now, unfortunately, but I’d rather not see more of it. I don’t know when these new characters were revealed, but I’d think it’d be soon enough that spoiler warnings would still be used.
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@TexasUberAlles  
and you don’t see any problems there, with anger and outrage affecting how tagging works on the site, a functionality that is arguably as objective to everything and has to be in order for there to exist browsability?
 
all I ask is this, is it because of the consistency/inconsistency of the anthro tag, or is it because of this character that popped out? take Iron Will for example, he looks humanoid by stature and skeletal structure, why isn’t he an anthro and why wasn’t that an issue until now, nor for Catrina? and what makes Catrina and this other guy so special for only them to be deserving of this tag, Iron Will is a prime candidate of getting it, he looks every bit as an anthro as the furry community makes them out to be, he certainly doesn’t look like a traditional minotaur if that’s your excuse for why you like him and don’t want to lump him in with the rest of the anthros. Plus, being a minotaur does not excuse anyone from being featured as anthro, or being drawn as such.
 
 
I don’t have a problem with this guy getting anthro, but what I will take exception to the fact that he’s being singled out among all other examples and this arising as a problem just now, because people want to bunch everything together in one nice package of, “I Don’t Like Thing” tag and that’s not how tags are supposed to work, ever.  
If that happens, then there should be no exceptions to the rule, because right now, quite ironically so, the reason the exception existed seems to be so show characters wouldn’t lumped into that tag was, likely because everyone knows most people hate anthros and furries and the only reason you seem to make that a center stage focus of the argument is because of this one character that popped out of nowhere. At least be honest about your hypocrisy of this.
 
 
@TexasUberAlles  
The content inside the thread is the spoiler territory, as well as the incomplete title confusing newcomers to this and having that information in the title lets them know what the name alludes towards, before they get curious and go looking for whatever it is the thread title refers to, getting spoiled in the meanwhile.
 
also, why are you even arguing with this?
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Iron Will is based on a mythological creature - the minotaur. They aren’t considered “anthro” in modern terms, though they’re definitely anthropomorphic in the strict meaning of the word, same as the old gods of Egypt.
 
For that reason alone he’s not a great example of where the boundary lies.
 
The reason I made my thread last night was because there’s a lot of users who, for one reason or another, treat them as anthro. Personally I think they’re right.
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@Dragonpone  
I would have changed it if I could, but a mod seems to have done that already. It didn’t really occur to me that a context-free word that’s doubling here as a name would be a spoiler without already having been spoiled and thus being irrelevant, sorry about that.
 
@toxicitzi  
and you don’t see any problems there, with anger and outrage affecting how tagging works on the site
 
You’re gonna maybe want to try this angle on someone who hasn’t been banned twice for downvoting stupid nazi garbage. Tags exist in very large part so that people who Hate Thing don’t have to be tempted to Yell About Thing– as the sheer volume of deleted posts on this image clearly illustrate– and anything that limits the amount of yelling around here is pretty much by definition a good deal for the site and the already-bedraggled people who run it. Why am I even having to explain this to a site assistant? It’s a polarizing genre that pisses off a lot of people and strongly attracts a lot of other people, tagging for images that visually correspond to it really should be a no-brainer.
 
This guy (and the legacy character he most resembles) is only getting “singled out” because hey, whaddya know, the character has in fact inspired a staggering amount of arglebargle and associated deletions/warnings/bans/drunkenness today, and listing every single uploaded character that might fall under the label of “anthro” wouldn’t really fit in a thread title.
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@TexasUberAlles  
everything I meant there I meant for tag usage, I couldn’t give less of a shit what people think about Capper.
 
and once again, if people are so angry about him, they should filter HIM, don’t bring their anger into the tag discussion as if that point has any merit or ground to stand on
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@TexasUberAlles  
To put it very simply, people’s anger is not a valid point to make any changes to tags, the only thing that makes sense about tags are reason you can bring to logically differentiate things and these are made in spite of that anger that brought the idea of change.
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@toxicitzi  
Well, I disagree; I think that accurately labeling and categorizing images is useful and improves the user experience regardless of whether someone is searching for a tag they like or hiding a tag they dislike, and that it would be accurate to label characters with a tag that no one would think twice about applying anywhere else on the internet. The motivation behind implementing a tag change should be irrelevant to the question of whether doing so improves the site by limiting arguments and/or facilitating seeing images one prefers.
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I said take a fucking chill pill.
 
You’re discussing tag definitions. You two don’t need to be accusing one another of being angry, dragging in unrelated drama, insulting the userbase at large or getting in one anothers faces about this.
 
It’s a tag. On a pony site.
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Semi-anthro  
a character which seems anthro, but has no human features at all (hands, feet, breasts, etc.)
 
Anthro  
A character with semi-human but not fully human anatomy. Anthros are bipedal versions of four-legged creatures or characters and may have all hooves or hooves and hands or hands and feet, depending on the style of the individual artist. Anthros generally have tails and muzzles. Also boobs.
 
Semi-anthro doesn’t fit, as he actually has human features and is not just a cat that seems anthro. It should be anthro. It can’t be nothing.
 
If this is anthro:  
full
 
Then this is too:  
Background Pony #9605
Digitigrade (canon) Capper - no, it shouldn’t have an anthro tag  
Plantigrade Capper - yes, it should
 
Any Catrina - no
 
Edit (09 Oct 2017):  
Consider this: regular Ember isn’t tagged as “anthro”. But Ember with boobs is tagged as anthro. Same here.
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@Crusier  
We don’t tag “quadrupedal” every time we see griffin, pony, zebra, donkey, mule, buffalo, yak, saddle-arabian, etc. It would be redundant, unless characters aren’t normally quadrupedal. Same here.
 
Though recently some moderators had spree-tagging party, all the pictures were tagged with “pony” tag, so I don’t know anymore (maybe they’re planning to make generic non-pony booru or something? Like FimFic staff.).
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@Background Pony #7C1B  
Yes, we tag “pony” every time we see unicorn, pegasus, alicorn, bat pony etc. Because how to search for those without such a tag?
 
(earth pony OR pegasus OR unicorn OR alicorn OR ... OR bat pony), NOT anthro ?
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