[nsfw] Zebradom and Zebra supremacy

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I’m certain this is going to be a very sane discussion with mature points on both sides.
 
Anyway, there seems to be some hubbub about the zebradom tag and the people who get offended by it so I’ll post my solution; split the tag into two separate tags- Zebradom, and Zebra Supremacy.  
Their new meanings would be:  
Zebradom - Much like maledom or whatever-dom, this is a picture where a zebra is being dominant in a sexual setting.  
Zebra supremacy - a picture depicting zebras imposing their racial ideals onto other species through way of bodypaint, infidelity, impregnation, slavery, etc.
 
The way you would discern the two is as follows;
 
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To make this change: Move everyone who has the zebradom tag hidden over to zebra supremacy, re-tag all current zebradom tags as zebra supremacy, then go through all the zebra pics and tag the ones featuring a dominant zebra as Zebradom
 
Problems: This litmus test of a pic leaves some images on the edge. For instance >>1666700 does not in any way imply zebra supremacy, and if you follow the above flowchart and replace the zebra with a regular stallion, the original meaning doesn’t particularly change at all. In my opinion, this image would only be tagged as Zebradom and not Zebra supremacy  
Now if she was bodypainted in stripes, or the dialogue mentioned something about ‘muh big zeebur dicc’ or ‘ur smol pony diccs’ then yeah, switching him to a stallion would no longer make sense and then deserves a Zebra supremacy tag.  
Some people might not like the above pic, and may still want to block it. If that’s the case I think they should also block Zebradom. The tag shouldn’t be changed or pics added to a tag that doesn’t make sense just to satiate the triggered’s needs.
 
Ideas?
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I think that your solution is pretty much the best one you’ll get. Indeed, some people will probably still block zebradom with or without the supremacy aspects present in it. On the other hand, I believe there will be people who are more than willing to enjoy dominant zebras when racism and genocide aren’t implied or directly shown at play… I do like these topics, but I realize that radical supremacy and humiliation aren’t exactly everyone’s cup of tea. Furthermore, it will help search faster and easier for exactly the type of situation/setting one wants to find - only racially superior zeebs or everything else.
 
IMO the situation here is similar to what one can see in the vore genre - the audience and fetish became too broad, so additional categories had to be introduced. Tags like endosoma, hard vore, graphic and non-graphic digestion, cooking vore, fatal/non-fatal vore exist exactly so people can add them to the more broad and generalized vore tag in order to better describe their picture and its intended audience. This way people who aren’t into a particular sub-genre can filter those pics out, or alternatively find exactly them. In this case zebradom is the more broad and vanilla category, with zebra supremacy being the more hardcore and fetishised subset of the kink, so the math works out. Let’s just hope that this division won’t bring the levels of in-fighting and toxicity that can be seen in the vore sub-fandom…
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Yes, I know, and I believe that is what Ralek is suggesting. Although this makes sense only if all images currently marked as ‘zebradom’ are basically zebra superiority. Otherwise some of them will be erroneously marked with zebra superiority and people with that on their filters won’t get to see them.
 
As for the toxicity, I was referring to people who fully know what (for example) fatal vore tag implies and yet still won’t filter it. They prefer to complain in the comment sections and downvote solely because they feel there is an improvised tug of war scenario going on. I doubt that regular zebradom lovers will do the same on pictures marked with zebra superiority, but with how things have been going the past few years one can never be sure…
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This would be a great change, though the current zebradom tag would have to be sifted for images that wouldn’t fit zebra supremacy before switching.
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I don’t see why this particular, extremely subjective (meaning is subjective and which one is primary is as well) criterion needs to be used, and why there needs to be a flowchart with tags being dependent on criterion.  
They’re independent! Zebra as a dom? Zebradom. Zebra mustard race? Zebra supremacism. That zebra mustard race is (almost: zebras might be implied instead of present, for example) guaranteed to have zebras as doms is superfluous, and additionally can easily be taken care of by implication system.
 
Otherwise I agree.
 
P.S. Also, have “zebra supremacy/ism” imply genetic/cultural “genocide”. Ditto for all other settings which involve ~racially superior~ characters like that deer one, and others where part of, or entire race gets reduced to slaves/animals.
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I didn’t feel making a flowchart for every possible type of zebra image was really necessary and that people would understand what I was trying to say by reading the post, but I see now that I probably should have.  
Pics with zebras being dominant have zebra dom.  
Pics with zebras oppressing is tagged zebra supremacy.  
99% of zebra supremacy pics are going to have zebradom as well, but not always and I never said it would but thanks for pointing that out anyway.
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@Ralek  
There doesn’t need to be a flowchart in the first place is what I mean.  
and I never said it would
The flowchart implies this.  
Pics with zebras being dominant have zebra dom.
Pics with zebras oppressing is tagged zebra supremacy.
That’s what I said.
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I realize now I shouldn’t have added a flow chart and expected people to use their brains, pretty pictures distract from the actual words.
 
I could have put zebradom on the left and zebra supremacy on the right, but then you would have argued that it’s not that simple and there are some pics that require both.
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@Barhandar  
@Ralek  
Alright, let’s settle. I think we’re all agreed on what should be done, regardless of how it was presented.
 
Anyways. As for actually transferring the tags over: What seems easiest to me would be to just alias zebradom into Zebra supremacy to transfer filters and watchlists.  
Then remove the alias.  
Tag appropriate pics with zebradom. Pretty much nearly all of the zebra supremacy pics.  
And then remove zebra supremacy from pics it doesn’t apply to.  
Only a couple of hundred pics so it’s not a ton of work.  
Toss in a couple of tag descriptions stating the differences and some implications [Zebra, dominance, etc] And we should be good.
 
Anyone see anything else to change?
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Alright, since no one else seems to have had any objections:
 
I’ve aliased the zebradom tag into zebra supremacy to move over watchers, hiders, etc.  
Then un-aliased zebradom so images can be tagged it on their own.
 
I’ll try and tag some pics with Zebradom/remove Supremacy. But I’m not too aware which images are which without checking each one so whoever else wants to go through and help clean that stuff up, go ahead.
 
And if I tag something wrong concerning the two, you can go ahead and fix it.
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@Zeb  
How come there are more zebra supremacy pictures than there are zebradom pictures? Didn’t we settle on tagging zebra supremacy pics with zebradom by default? This of course still leaves room for zebradom pics without zebra supremacy on them, but still, whatever the case there should theoretically be more zebradom pics than zebra supremacy pics… Either something is fishy here, or I did my math wrong D:
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My only two cents is that not every impreg pic with zebra should be tagged with “zebra supremacy” :V
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Revisiting this because series >>1766699 brought me here and I hadn’t seen the thread before. It’s pretty clear that there is no zebra supremacy going on in this pic or others like it (and the zebradom is implied at best). But the real reason I’m here:
 
I think we need to update zebra supremacy’s definition because Ralek’s primary thrust of “imposing their racial ideals” did not make it into the final description. The acts are listed, and the term zebra supremacy is used, but it doesn’t state a motivation, and we shouldn’t be using a tag’s own name to help define itself. The current definition really just sounds very similar to zebradom (zebras being supreme or dominant).
 
Current:
Images specifically depicting ’zebra supremacy’; cuckolding, impregnating, ’striping’, or racially abusing non-zebras. Note that while all sexual zebra supremacy is zebradom, not all zebradom is zebra supremacy.
 
Proposed:
Acts or examples of zebra oppression against non-zebras by forcing zebra ideals onto them. Methods include body paint, infidelity, rape, impregnation, slavery, or other abuse. Pics which also have a zebra in a dominant sexual position should also be tagged zebradom.
Pics with this tag are also likely to contain racism
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