Cleopatra Jazz, Josephine Baker, and Chiquita Banana should both imply each other

Cleopatra Jazz </→ Chiquita Banana </→ Josephine Baker

@Napsack
Not Josephine Baker; that's the name of the person that pony is based on

@Zharkaer
If it's the person the character is based on, doesn't that still mean it should be tagged on images featuring the character, seeing as it's technically a ponification of that person and therefore a representation of them?

@Napsack
That name shouldn't imply the others is what I'm saying.

@Zharkaer
Oh, right. The other two should still imply that one though, right?

Yeah.

@Zharkaer
Alright, good to know. Thanks for the prompt response.

I have not watched that episode yet, but these names trigger me…

This is Josephine Baker and This is Chiquita Banana (see >>509044)

Why would you use those names? That's stupid and fucks up tagging.
Vote to remove these tags from that character completely.

@patec
I agree about Chiquita Banana but the pony is based on Josephine Baker.

@Zharkaer
Since when are we tagging based on?

She doesn't imply Lady Gaga
He doesn't imply Weird Al Yankovic

I haven't watched the episode, but unless this is actually canonically meant to be the person Josephine Baker, and I highly doubt that, it should not have that tag.

@patec
okay jeez just trying to help

@patec

I think that Chiquita Banana was somehow chosen as one of the fan names for the character.

@Mildgyth
Yeah, but that's dumb when the name already exists.
Even on this site as a tag.

@patec
Ok so PSA, please don't use "triggered" flippantly. Trigger phenomena are vastly different from getting (suddenly or not) irked, offended, annoyed, angry, or uncomfortable. The internet is already teeming with misguided and malicious misuse of the word, which is actually harmful to people who have genuine trigger phenomena, including me and various friends of mine.

@saby
I honestly don't care what you think triggered is supposed to mean and what not.
For me it's a universal word. I learned it as the English translation to the German word "auslösen/ausgelöst", and that's a universal word for anything that happens.
I do not tie it to any mental disorder or whatever.
Like it or not.

@patec
As far as I can tell the pony was inspired by Josephine Baker.

The mare seen walking by in the nightclub scene is a ponified Josephine Baker, from having the same Eton Crop hairstyle of her mane to wearing the same kind of earrings. She even has bananas for a cutie mark to reference her banana skirt.

And I agree with your stance on not tagging "based on". Though there are a few images where she's drawn to resemble Josephine Baker.

She's still unnamed on the wiki (ctrl + f dungeons and discords). I recall seeing a discussion on one of her images about the name. Some wanted to go with the banana name because of her cutie mark and the name being recognizable, others wanted the jazz name because that seemed more fitting for a 1920's nightclub pony.

If you look at the tag change page you'll see it's two users apparently pushing the names.

On a similar note there's Betty Hoof who gets tagged Betty Boop and ponified because she's apparently inspired by the character.

Incidentally: why does Betty Boop have a colored tag? I thought those were for MLP characters only?

@patec
You're right that it is the direct translation, but for a native speaker it would be really odd to say "this triggers me" unless they meant a panic attack or a traumatic flashback or persistent self-destructive/eating-disordered/obsessive-compulsive thoughts—or wanted to ridicule and erase such people. Otherwise it'd make much more sense to say either 'this triggers great anger in me" (or whatever) or use one of the dozens of English idioms for such feelings. "This really rustles my jimmies/pisses me off/raises my heckles" and their ilk.

I can't really make you change your stance but if you insist on using the phrase you risk sounding like someone who doesn't speak English that well, or, given your prowess, a dickwad who's decided that people who speak for trigger warnings and so on are vain selfish whiners.

@Solitude
Yeah, ok. I already assumed it's some competing fanon names.
But in the end we should agree on only one of them anyway, and I'd very much prefer if it was not one that's already the name of someone/something else.
So personally I would go with the Jazz name and remove the others.
If none of the other staff members disagrees I will go and do that.

As for Betty Boop: Good question.. This shouldn't be in the character category.
I'm probably gonna remove it.

@saby
Sorry, but the honest truth is I literally couldn't care any less about these semantics.

@patec
That would probably be best, if only for efficiency's sake.