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@Violet Rose in The Rain
You are a complete ignorant about the defintion of nazism. I'm all for free speech but can not tolerate this kind of insult.


@Ereiam
it's the same. If you don't pay taxes that will be wasted in like, reimbursement of pseudoscience, millions spent every day into bullshit like homeopathy and all kind of placebos, anyone could and should be able to afford an health insurance that can cover all of this. But the insurance will not pay for cares like osteopathy, alternative crystal medicine unless someone needs it, and that could weigh in the costs of healthcare itself. When we don't see the cost of the medicines and care we use, we think everything is free. But do the addition of the money you pay at the end of every year by reading your payslip, and do the math.

@Vivace
Yes he's promising lots of free stuff, again, America is not France, America is not Finland or England or Burkina Faso or China. Not all countries and people are the same.

Just like Yang promised $1000 each, why not?
Get "«free»" healthcare, good luck trying to get Americans some prevention of health risks, drinking less soda and burgers, and safety, and second if it's government-funded you can be sure the prices of treatment will skyrocket, unless you pass some regulations, and force labs to drop their fucking patents on the public domain so alternative laboratories can provide affordable shit, that's your main concern.

It's all promises and nothing concrete, just like Trump's promise to go back to the fucking Moon. The people who worked on the Apollo project were not the same as this generation.
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@Derpy Whooves
this. <3
if only members had the knowledge of that feature, the power of filtering content that makes them angry, the world would be much better, and not being offended about drawings.
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@Vivace
Whatever works in scandinavia does not works in other countries.
Healthcare is not free, it's paid by your taxes and levies, and in my case most of the time I still have to pay a part of it unless I have a good insurance and complementary.
I can't even currently afford a new pair of glasses, so I'm sticking with contacts.
Dental care is even worse just like a lot of chronic illnesses.
Not to mention the deficit the Social Security have accumulated. mainly, thanks to the abuse and high cost of practicians, and people abusing it just to get a few days off.
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@Background Pony #A63C
this is why i think it's plain stupid.
instead of letting the people choose, there must be a tournament where every side must destroy eachother in a pathetic public show to dominate the ideology of their own side, to then fight the other side.

you think this is a fucking game? Get every candidate to be independent and assume their ideas. far left, far right, conservative, libertarian, statist, fascist, ecologist, centrist, liberal, communist, or anarcho-royalist why not, then let the people make a choice, or create alliances. the competition is made by ideas.

then you wonder nothing is changing and no one wants to vote anymore, it's because in democracy that people are playing with, not the fucking Star Academy or whatever reality show.
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@Background Pony #A63C
all elections speeches are promises in the wind. the only one you can trust not to fuck you up once elected so far remains Trump and Vermin Supreme

Trump because you know him.
Vermin Supreme cause he's got nothing to lose.

But do it guys, go vote for the guy who promises you his utopia, I really hope it works this time and I'll rethink completely my political views!

Just like if a scientific manages to prove with evidence, with verification, peer review and experimental models, particle accelerators, new technologies, that the Earth, planets and the visible universe are flat because there are dimensions we can not perceive or comprehend beyond us, hence creating a bias that the earth could be spherical yes, I will accept that. Everyone will take a seat, and say "Good job. Respect."

Flat Earthers not even getting what GR is will be like «Told you we were right! It's flat» just like an atheist who never understand Darwin will proudly wear a monkey>chimp>man meme chinese t-shirt that says "SIENCE WINS!"

Political theories need to be proven, but it's like an experiment, you must repeat it several times, maybe one time it will work, but at which cost.
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@Background Pony #A63C

Yes but once all billionaires will have their wealth shared, everyone will be equal and have a wage and free shit few months! then suddenly, Communism!

Billionaires : moves to switzerland because there is no borders as soon Sanders is named as the president.
Berniebros: «Haha good riddance we are finally free! All the billionaires are gone.. The millionaires too! Now we truly have achieved equality!»




Also because someone earlier really wants to convince ME (why, me?) To vote for Sanders (I'm sure it's illegal for me to do that) and argued he had solutions to erase the debt. The student debt, not the trillions of dollars of debt that is crippling your economy and are a real problem accumulated by years of liberalism throwing us into a clown world that consumes more than it produces.
The solutions are not here, but I get why he manages to seduce people with ideas, and that's where he's a bastard, he knows his strategy is not applicable IRL, without the cost of many liberties. (Like every socialist regime tbh)
But I'm curious, I'd like to see Bernie winning and see how it ends, the problem is that America is still a huge world influence and have a tendency to drag others with it.

Newt step, Trudeau will build a wall.
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@Typhoon2000
nah again, chill down, the internet is not gonna end, this kind of law is unappliable and would impact the market more than run for the interest of a few corporations.
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@AaronMk
read Rand or Voltaire instead of posting my stuff on IRC like "Behold, ah debunked a fash!" and I'll consider this.

@Background Pony #A63C
Exactly, don't consume useless things from corporations you don't need. It belongs in /technology/ but essentially corporations now does in the big data, infringing your privacy and therefore private property for nothing.
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@SD50-2
Under communism there would be one. it does not solve the problem of monoponies or choice or independence but aggravates it.
less state, more freedom.
It's always the bigger corporation that eats smaller, because it can afford all the taxes and workforces, it's like a blackhole devouring all the surrounding matter, eliminating concurrency.
Governments corrupts the natural selection of capitalism. This is why you have fake news in most liberal/centrist media shared in 3, 4 huge corporations that all suck the dick of the establishment.
This is why you have a mafia of pharmaceutics with sealed and renewed patents the government protects, preventing an independent lab to make a cheaper medicine and this is why people die.
Even here in France where we supposedly have healthcare, there are treatments that are only partially reimbursed. This is why Microsoft and google dominates the market instead of better software.

All of this is just control and not freedom.

@Background Pony #1017
This is the best political statement, it unites the world, and transcends borders and codes. To booze!
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@AaronMk
@Background Pony #A63C
Nah. Facebook is a cringe site. It's a waste of time, its only purpose, like every social network, is datamining and indeed exploiting the users.
It's not even a business. The best thing you can do is to not use it, or make it pointless with a fake account if you really need to keep an eye on that shit.
I think the idea that people can not live without a smartphone connected on facebook would get anyone mad, how can people believe this is the apex of modernity to have people being degenerated by such a pointless system.
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@Latecomer
That's why you should reason as a capitalist. Want to exploit something? Pay for it. Oh you can see somewhere else if you want but if everyone start wanting to get money and returns for what they offer, that's where capitalism works.
If a corporation wants to come anyways and exploit your land, you have rifles until they pay up. Do you understand the idea?

If a company comes to my property and says «We're gonna install a 5G antenna on that terrain if you don't mind, it's for the benefits of all»
Either you pay a rent for installing your thing on my terrain, either you get welcomed by the rifle. Or in civilized world, my ushers/lawyers.

Private property is a concept that is very tied to capitalism. What you create, build or buy is your private property. You can get someone to pay to have it or sell it, or keep it for yourself, that's basic rights and that's anyone's freedom. Just like it's everyone's freedom not to get exploited or enslaved. Either you work and demand money for it, either you do nothing and you're also free to do so.
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@Latecomer
This is why trade exist, and that's commerce, with the laws of supply and demand. it's capitalism, if a country have the resource, the government allows you to exploit it and get something in return. You want 3000 acres to implant your factory? Pay taxes, bring employment, pay your employees and our economy will start! We will have healthcare, energy, communications, a higher and higher level of life, security, books, education. Why is it not happening like that?

Because the governments are corrupted there and don't care about benefits for their people. It's not the fault of capitalism but the absence of any form of economy that's a problem. And that's up to these countries to remove that, and aspire to start their own economy instead of living at the mercy of NGOs and chinese corporations coming to exploit their resources. This is already a thing.
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@Latecomer
Actually, natural resources are the trick path — they tend to result in less prosperity than you might think, and very concentrated in the hands of the elite.

They were in the hands of agricultors in South America and miners in Africa before that. Like the cobalt extracted to make your shitty tablet/phone, the cadmium and other minerals , things like that.

Ain't "progress" fucking grand…
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@CaptainXtra
It's not my political side but we're all at the same point. Every candidate should be independent and have freedom of passing his ideas.

That's concurrency, just like if you had say the choice between Apple and Android.
Apple: iOS.

Android: Samsung, Blackberry, Sony, Nokia, LG…

Everyone : "Well at least we have freedom of choice!"

That's not a choice, that is not making any difference. Here both left and right agrees on the same guidelines and strategies to get elected, there's no longer any independence of thoughts or differences in ideas. And that's a catastrophe for democracy.
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@Latecomer
you wanna raise the global average standard? force them to. Sprinkling third world or second world countries with subvention makes them dependent and not productive.
It's not because we are successful in terms of economy we owe anything. Any country can exploit its resources and become rich. Look at Dubai, the Emirates, all these places. How did they manage to get from desert to palaces and all in so small time?
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@Latecomer
an excellent argument indeed, you want borders, and some control to prevent a corporation to say
«Okay the workforce is too expensive here I'm gonna outsource to India and close»
fine, you can close, people here will be hired somewhere else to manufacture things you were providing. Because we will make sure you can not sell your low cost shit here at the detriment of the workforce, that's the rules.

Yep, that's protectionism, and I agree, that's how a lot of countries works.


«I'm a capitalist, there's corn growing on that field literally for free, I'm gonna pick it and make profit»
Law: «Nope this is someone's property. That's not capitalism until you pay the owner of the field the price he demands.»
«I'm a capitalist, I'm gonna open a factory and try not to get my workers paid, 100% profits!»
Law: «That's slavery and it's illegal. In capitalism you pay your emplopyees with their part of the benefits.»

So yes, there are laws that allows the market to work, normally, except when you have a government filled with lobbyists, like with Bayer/Monsanto, Huwawei for the 5G, the press and media also are lobbyists.
Corporations will see a lot of benefits possible if the state regulation form a very liberal-left government are pushing.
That's crony capitalism you will say, but it's not capitalism when the state is behind with your tax money, it's literally the definition of socialism. When liberals says corporations equals people, they don't think in term of human resources, they think in terms that corporations can be funded or helped with your tax money, even if you don't use them or want to buy from them.

This also, is a thing, and why there must be a clear difference between public and private. Public : the state funds it with your money and allow zero profits, only benefits for the population. Private : people choose.
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@Violet Rose in The Rain
's not sourced. just opinion from literally an antifa site.


@Latecomer
maybe because you don't know how to use it. Capitalism is not a forced system. If you want to trade or work and keep money to buy more things and make profits, it's your right, you are doing capitalism. it's as dumb as that.


@Background Pony #A63C
Nah it's not enough for them, they want to be pissed at the system. They need scapegoats for all things going wrong in the world : «capitalism!~ I read Marx I'm suddenly so smort! »


Apropos nothing,
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@Background Pony #A63C
This. Capitalism or free market is the very reason why this site exists to begin with. Industrial revolution, technological progress, freedom of speech, freedom of expression.


@byte[]
I can make also the same kind of stats with people who died of eating meat or drinking water. Look at all the people water have killed!

You are not on a critical analysis, not a pragmatic approach, only search an opinion and articles that suits your views.

Without capitalism or I'd rather say, economy as we know, i recall you that medicine or science, also, would not be what it is today. Governments would rather spend a bit on research but balanced with other budgets, and if a project is too expensive? Let's give up. Why sending people into space? Why developing particle accelerators? Why spending efforts on searching new vaccines or improving life… Let's keep with the basic needs!

Free economy allows people to do what they want. Some join the army, become cops, some become artists, workers, programmers or doctors. And it works pretty well so far.

@Violet Rose in The Rain
The zetetic minute~
can you support this claim with verifiable facts that capitalism causes these deaths, and instead not the absence of economy at all, of any form.
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@Lord Hypno
Recycling has no impact on global warming. Investing on items that lasts instead of a new iPhone or tablet every year because «I like my phone but it is not compatible 5G»«damn the battery now lasts one hour»«oh naw the new Windows 53 is out I am not safe I must buy a new one like they said on TV» and import tons of shit from China is not a good logic. Local production will help fix things, and especially in durability.

Also yes, it is well known here and I see it every morning, when the trash trucks collects garbage, they pick both waste and recycled and put it on the same truck, it's been remarked, because there is not treatment center. It is in fact cheaper and less CO2 to transport tons and tons of waste to a recycling center to bury it on a mining. This is very retarded and hypocritical and even ecologists like Dominique Voynet stated that companies like Veolia can do this to be cheaper !

Globalism is the main cause cause of pollution and a nonsense, if also we can use the spook of climate change alarmism to be less dependent on oil and foreign resources this is a good thing. Also instead of crippling landscapes with windmills, invest in nuclear energy.



@Ebalosus

First you gotta know that's not just since 1947 shit happened, it always have been a region of conflicts.
To make simple, Palestine is a land that before the caliphate of arabs was essentially hebraic, and a multitude of populations, just like Lebanon or Jordan. Then you had the crusades, which limited a lot of massacres of the populations by the arabs, the Ottoman empire and Egypt conquering it again.

For centuries the jews, and christians too, let's not forget, kept defending their territory because there is a principle of sovereignty, the same Americans had when they won their independence, or forged countries like France or all of Europe, when you have a population that fight for their right to be a sovereign, they can build a state and defend it. This includes the palestinians, who have always been on this land, but always been the vassals of foreign nations. (The ottoman empire, Egypt, etc.)

I'm not that kind of nationalist who will say a nation must be uniform in all things, a nation is essentially peoples, not necessarily all the same ethnicity or idea or whatever. But when you have a country and a people, instead of fighting, build it together. Imagine if Iran decides to one day attack Israel and throw bombs at them, do you think they will make the distingo between Israeli and Palestinians? Nope.

Palestinians have all the reasons to be part of Israel and build it together, that's the same thing with by example, France. Do you think the people of Bourgogne and Franche Comté, Corse or Bretagne would have sided with Germany to be independent again? Fuck nope, we fight together! But I'm still a comtois, a breton will still be a breton and a corse will still feel he belongs to his territory, that's the idea.

Every people who feel like belonging together and fight for their nation can have the right to decide and get their borders and defend themselves. The religion isn't even an excuse, only a mean to divide, and that is exactly what happens in Israel, you have jewish-zionists who cannot stand arabs ( well with the terror attacks it's understandable ) and arabo-palestinians who still declare the jews are invading, ignoring that historically, he's the invader. Neither have any interest of being at war perpetually for some invisible sky magician.




@Background Pony #13FD
Maybe because 70% (official, Ministère de l'intérieur en 2018) up to 80% (CRIF, LDJ and others) of antisemitic acts today in France are perpetrated by muslim people. I think that's a factor.

I might be wrong again, I must be islamophobe to even know this.
Same thing could be said on homopbobic attacks, in many cities like Marseille, Paris or Besancon you have crews of guys looking to do nothing but smash gays when there's not cops around the entrance of a club.

THIS is not the definition of freedom, it's fascism.

@byte[]
haha, nice meme bruh.
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Well kind of had my dose of being called names, I admit I assumed things wrongly, if even I cared, to me it's just a religion, I'm not even practicing anyways.

but real racism, not the kind used in jokes, is a reality, calling anyone racist for being against illegals is minimizing real racist acts.
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