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Diego96
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Thanks for taking the time to preserve the comments under AI gens. The votes I don’t mind much since all those pics are pretty much obsolete these days.

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Ryk
PonyCon Holland -

Despite I had no problems at all with this new policy it resulted in me getting banned. C’mon, I’m not ai generated picture I’m a user. But seriously: this is my only account on this platform and everyone can see upload count is 0. Sometimes, in fact, I upload stuff when I’m not logged in. Though I got account banned, not IP adress nor browser. The exact reason for the ban was rule 3. I ensure you that all of my uploads were pony related and noone of them had “ai generated” tag. Idk if it can be proven or not and I don’t care. I’m seeking for the solution to this situation to avoid future bans.

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The Frowning Pony

Administrator
13 blinks per minute
Latest update…

Image deletions

  • The initial wave of image deletions is complete
    • This covered images that were tagged as only ai generated, had no tags that indicated they were anything but, and didn’t have their tags changed between the policy announcement and deletion date
  • Several thousand images tagged ai generated remain
    • These are images where there was an artist or editor tag, or another tag (like ai assisted or edit) that indicate they may not have been purely ai generated.
    • Some images that may otherwise break our new rules have been intentionally retained for their historical or community significance
  • We have begun manually going through the list of remaining images to clarify their status (fixing tags or deleting as needed)
  • If you believe images were deleted that should be resurfaced, let us know
    • For example, you tagged your things with manual work as ai generated and nothing else, not knowing about the ai assisted tag
    • Just comment below with either the tags you used or your account so we can check uploads
    • Alternatively all the deleted images are on Tantabus, so you can link things from there for us to check

On Tantabus

  • As mentioned above, all the deleted ai generated images are available on Tantabus
    • All images include the derpi image ID in the description as well as as a source URL
    • This should allow for searching images there and letting us know IDs here, if you want us to review a deleted image
    • Alternatively, by tags, as they should be the same as they were before deletion
  • Comments from derpi have been imported to Tantabus
    • These all show as being from “Background Pony”, but include the poster name in the comment if it was public
    • Links between comments (ie. replies) should work as expected
  • Votes and scores have not been transferred
    • Those wanting to have their votes/faves copied over can check this page for how to do that
  • An additional domain, lunabooru.org, has been set up
    • This is due to reports of some ISPs in a certain country having issues with the canonical address
    • This functions just like trixiebooru.org for derpi; it’s the same site but on a different domain
    • Site links are relative and domain agnostic (thus why the above isn’t linked, it’d just redirect to the domain you’re on)
    • Keep in mind session cookies are domain specific

Keep replies to this focused on the information presented above, primarily on queries about resurfacing images that aren’t fully ai generated.

This thread is not to be used to discuss AI in general, politics, ethics, etc., and comments attempting to do so will be deleted.

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Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

Senior Moderator
君場森生きる
@Background Pony #B1FE
It’s only been a few days since the first big pass at deleting the ai generated images, which was when things really changed. I don’t know how it’s going for everyone else, but, for myself? Since that first pass of the purge my volunteer time here has been completely devoted to helping artists again, or working through a backlog of old reports going back three months or more. I think a week ago I had more than 100 unanswered PMs and at least 20 open reports - some of them going back to June. Today I only have 5 open reports - only 2 of them more than a few hours old, and only 6 unanswered PMs. None of which looks like something I’m going to need therapy to get through. So … for me? It’s been a night-and-day change. It’s like this is an entirely different site. I once again have the time to actually respond to questions, and to write to people when their images are deleted to let them know what the problem was so they can avoid it in the future.
Who knows? By this weekend I might be able to start working the Artist Aliasing thread again.

Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1025

Background Pony #B1FE
Now that it’s been a couple of months, have the updated rules succeeded in reducing moderation-hours needed to be spent?

Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1024

Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

Senior Moderator
君場森生きる
@Background Pony #3BDA
That’s a great idea. Describing it for others will help you figure out for yourself, too, what you think. And it’s a great way to get feedback from others.
@Background Pony #5902
Collaborations are great, but there’s nothing wrong with having many different takes on it, too.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1022

Background Pony #3BDA
Is anyone here interested in a guide on how to make “AI-assisted” art? I want to write a guide for the art-impaired who nonetheless are not afraid to open MSPaint and Krita and make some marks. I have been wanting to make it for a while, but I didn’t know if there was an interest in it.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1019

The Frowning Pony

Administrator
13 blinks per minute
@Fireheart76
Purely AI generated images are no longer allowed since December 2024, and the tag is blocked on upload.
The site does still allow images made with AI as part of the creative tools, similar to photobashed images and “photoshop art”.
Removal is ongoing; the first (and largest) batch was done yesterday, and the remaining images will be reviewed throughout the coming weeks. We’ll put out a better post about that Soon™.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1018

Fireheart76
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

Rubber Prince
This might be a silly question, but when did the stopping of AI uploads/removal of old ones go into effect? I keep seeing them pop up and I wasn’t sure if the new rule hadn’t gone into effect yet?
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Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

Senior Moderator
君場森生きる
If you would like to continue your discussion to ‘classify the hypothetical discussion’, please use PMs. It’s not really useful for purposes of this thread.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1015

CeTheGE

@Poniidesu
Removing or not removing of promotion of that site here will not affect the existence of AI ethics argument. It’s separate. And it will continue somewhere anyway.
You provide no good alternative solution
Haven’t you seen that almost every option is listed as fine? The main difference concerns responsibility taken on.
The rest is about classifying the hypothetical discussion if it were to continue in that vein.
The last option, in my opinion, simply does not allow for further discussion in this direction. I don’t see how it can continue other than just flaming.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1013

Poniidesu
A Really Classy Artist - 250+ images under their artist tag
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Artist -

です
Your post reads as if you think there can and will be an AI ethics argument forever if the site is linked here, but if it’s removed, it’s all good.
You provide no good alternative solution, the general attitude is the migration of AI content is a good one and best serves the interests of prompters, artists, and the admins.
The final line seems to be hinting for capitulation to some arbitrary ethics instead, and erasure of the work done to preserve content and redirect users, because it’s the only viable thing or everyone is going to riot.
I don’t think that will be the case.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1012

CeTheGE

There doesn’t need to be a comparison of AI to violent crime.
It’s just analogy. And it’s not me who started with analogies.
It’s talking not about AI ethics. And not about other site policies. It’s about this site.
If you try to read rules on this site you can find there:
Do not upload purely ai generated images. … Please check tantabus.ai if you’re interested in such content.
If you try to upload something ai generated and/or tag something accordingly or try to browse through AI content you can find description for ai generated tag:
New ai generated images are no longer allowed on Derpibooru. Instead, use tantabus.ai
In official announcement of policy updates, in this particular threads opening post you can find:
tantabus.ai has been set up for those interested in MLP related ai imagery
It’s promoted like approved option for ones who still used to be interested in this content here. First and only on top of that. Clearly not advertisement like in “ad agency”.
Possible answers can be classified by several options. Without taking into account the possible influence on the policy of that site.
They say:
  • We are aware of that site’s policies. It’s fine. We are OK with it.
It’s fine. They are responsible for it. Ethically, in front of people (their community).
Continue of the discussion in this vein will lead to discussing AI ethics.
  • We are aware of that site’s policies. There is some wrongs in it. We are not OK with it. But we still want to promote that site, we have reasons.
Kinda hypocritical. Still responsible for it ethically. For something they supported by actions.
Continue of the discussion will lead to discussing ethics in general.
  • We don’t want to bother to check that site’s policies. We just don’t care. Still going to promote it though.
Saying nothing is equivalent. Default option.
Fine. But it will be not honest for them to call something wrong which was pointed to them as wrong here. Especially motivate some decisions by it. Something related to theses like respect to artists, good for the community, etc.
Responsible for it ethically.
Further discussion there leads discussing ethics in general.
  • We are cheeked that site’s policies. Found wrongs in it, which goes against goals of our community. We are not OK with it. Removing any promotion of that site from official resources of this site.
Fine. They are not responsible in any way anymore.
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Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1011

Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

Senior Moderator
君場森生きる
@Poniidesu
One of the largest time sinks with those images here, for me at least, was the time I spent trying to explain basic concepts of anatomy and art, or explaining how to make simple edits to images, to people who had no other artistic or digital art experience at all. The concepts, the tools, and even the ability to accept and respond to criticism of their work .. all of that is missing for so many people who, however, are very capable of giving Civitai their credit card number and then copy/pasting someone else’s job, but with your favorite body part turned up to 11.
My impression is that they, the new site, will have entirely different time sinks. To start with, no arguments or lengthy debates with users about DNPs, or artist rights for AI generations, or users appealing their images being deleted for ghost signatures.
So, I don’t have the impression that the load now off of our shoulders is necessarily going to be transferred to them.
It’s just off of us.

Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1010

Poniidesu
A Really Classy Artist - 250+ images under their artist tag
An Artist Who Rocks - 100+ images under their artist tag
Artist -

です
Were you really about to sockpuppet?
The site is promoted since it was the choice of where to move the content, which someone offered, as opposed to just deleting it. It can fade into irrelevance after that process is finished. It’s hardly even worth discussing how bad their moderation policy even is on there or not when they are currently going to be flooded with imports from here to moderate.
Also it was already stated, this isn’t an AI ethics thread. There doesn’t need to be a comparison of AI to violent crime.

Site and Policy » Policy update regarding AI content » Post 1009

CeTheGE

@Poniidesu
Hey, using some logic you can see, that in this analogy no one tells “baseball bats are wrong”.
And since it’s analogy, namely imaginary situation, you can use some of imagination to change some words to something like: “We think that bonking people and stealing their stuff is bad and we find it too bothersome to deal with consequences of supposed hypothetical bonking, so we don’t want to have baseball bats here… “
This does not change anything in essence in relation to what this analogy is given to. Regarding responsibility for support, in particular.
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