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HeadlessHorselessHorseman

@Ebalosus
I mean, Todd does say that Ellis can be "short," but mostly he and her seem to be on the same side in all this. He's not being seriously critical of her in any way.

Also, no one involved appears to believe the accusations against Oancitizen. If anything, they lean towards speculating that he's the one being abused.
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Basically that Oancitizen was not only an abuser, (As confirmed in Dany's response) but got together with what the Kiwifarmers, Todd, and Dany consider a dramawhore troublemaker that caused a lot of friction in their clique. Here's Todd's take on the situation. It's funny, because they tell on themselves in those documents, with Todd saying (in a roundabout way) that Lindsay is a bitch, and Dany admitting that Kyle (Oancitizen) sought Lindsay's advice on how to deal with Kyle's old accusers, to which she provided. Dany's also known for defending access media's dick-sucking of Hollywood, so that clique circling the wagons and defending their friends' shitty behaviour isn't surprising.

At best, it shows that they're no better than CA when it comes to dealing with shatbaggery in their own ranks, and at worst are willing to go the Hollywood route of "cancellation for thee but not me" when accusations are thrown at them, but at least Lindsay wouldn't do that, right?…



Also, Lindsay was friends with Film Roberto at some point. Go figure…

HeadlessHorselessHorseman

@Ebalosus
I know Ellis has been hounded off of Twitter for posting a Disney hot take, and made an hour-long video response. She's reaping the whirlwind, but on her good days she probably already knows that, so I do feel kind of bad.

That was probably the point where more people on TvTropes started waking up to canceling being a real thing. It's all fun and games until it happens to someone you really like.
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Anyone else see the latest news about Todd, Dany, Lindsay, and Oancitizen? Lindsay’s stuff is one thing, but finding out what Chez Apocalypse was like towards the end was revealing, and is arguably worse than stuff in the CTC document.
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@Dr_Osaka
I saw the review myself. Thankfully, it wasn't a clipless review, as the movie already got a home media release last month. To summerize the video, Doug thought the movie was stupid, in a fun way.
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@Dr_Osaka
@Dex Stewart
UGH. Even back when I was a frequent watcher of the Nostalgia Critic, I never liked his "shit on the Star Wars prequels" "jokes". I mean, I get it. They are very flawed movies. But I never had much of an issue with them. Then again, I'm a casual viewer of the Star Wars series anyway so maybe I'm just "naive". I wish I could stopped his The Force Awakens video and forced him to watch The Phantom Menace again until he could properly get Jar-Jar's species name right. I could see him acting like a whiny child about wanting to watch a Star Wars prequel as punishment.
Also get this, does anybody remember Demo Reel? Well, I recently watched an analysis on it and in the series, Doug Walker's character's past in based on Jake Lloyd's and that his character wants to fight fate. Its one thing he wanted to base his fictional character on real people but Jake Lloyd?! Especially since shitting on The Phantom Menace was a reoccurring thing of the Nostalgia Critic? Ain't that fucking rich of Doug to do this! Does this mean he has more respect for Jake Lloyd after Demo Reel, especially after hearing what happened to poor Jake after The Phantom Menace?

(The trailer for the NC's The Force Awakens' video)
Tamara as Rey: I'm no one…..
Nostalgia Critic:….Jake Lloyd no one?

PFFT! Of course not.

@Dex Stewart
That's cool if you do but I couldn't stand his clipless video of Pixels. Probably because I saw the movie and could see the glaring flaws in Doug's analysis.
Dr_Osaka
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@Dex Stewart
I didn't watch the new movie (mostly because of the pandemic closing theaters and streaming services charging a lot to watch online) though I've heard from a lot of people that it isn't good so I'm a little conflicted about seeing it now especially since I liked the first movie a lot.
Still I doubt I want to see what Doug thinks of it especially if it's another stupid clipless review.
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@Background Pony #0FB1
I think someone needs to tell Doug that hating on those things stopped being cool about four years ago, when it became cool to hate the sequel trilogy.


Reminds me of the Cinema Snob’s look at 1980 movies and says Empire came out “back when it was fun to like Star Wars.”
Dr_Osaka
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@Background Pony #0FB1
I get that the prequels are notorious for how infamous they are but there comes a point when you've pretty much squeezed every last drop of what you can say about them not to mention Doug himself has gone out of his way to talk about the positives about the films to showcase that they actually aren't the worst things ever made which becomes really contradicting when you continue to still insult them anyways especially when people started going back to them and actually liking them after what a mess the new trilogy was.
Plus you gotta love how Doug said he'd never do a review of Phantom Menace because there is nothing he could add that hasn't already been said and yet he still talks about it in his miscellaneous videos and actually did a Disneycember review of it despite it technically not being made by Disney after they bought the rights.
Background Pony #0FB1

Doug did a Nostalgia Critic video on Strange Magic, and just like every time he reviews something made by George Lucas, it's filled with him bashing the Star Wars prequel trilogy and Lucas himself. I think someone needs to tell Doug that hating on those things stopped being cool about four years ago, when it became cool to hate the sequel trilogy.
HeadlessHorselessHorseman

@Ebalosus
He never told them he was ending the NC until it was too late; this was well after they were depending on TGWTG's popularity to keep them afloat. I mean, I guess you could blame them for not trying to find their own ways sooner, but they were drawn onto the site to begin with on the promise of mutual marketing, and they lost their biggest ratings draw without warning.

A lot of Channel Awesome's problems came down to Doug Walker being the central personality of the site even though he wasn't supposed to be. I think Malcolm and Tamara get along with him much better (as far as we know) because they went into this knowing they weren't going to be independent content creators. There's no ambiguity about what their relationship to Walker is.
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I agree, since as stated before, 2012 was when analytical media criticism (what is on YouTube at least now known as video essays) eclipsed the traditional riffing/angry (wo)man on camera ranting about/making fun of movies format that had been the mainstay since the AVGN popularised it. Him ending the NC then made sense…which is why in hindsight all the complaints in the CTC google doc about "Doug throwing us under the bus at the end of To Boldly Flee!" come across as tone-deaf. Did they not realise that the winds were changing towards more analytical style approaches?
Dr_Osaka
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@Background Pony #000E
True except he comes off as more smug about how he critiques things and rarely changes his opinions even if he's wrong about it, his F@%$ Ups video might be him correcting mistakes he made but he still has to act like he wasn't in the wrong about what he said or comes up with new criticisms for the movie now that he has new information.
Dr_Osaka
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So I was rewatching Shinobi-03's review of Doug's review of Jurassic Park and something I'm surprised he didn't talk about was the fact that Doug pointed out the strings on the Dilophosaur.
Doug constantly keeps talking about how there is too much CGI in movies and not enough practical effects being used, but then the one time there are practical effects Doug has to point out how the puppet shows it's weaknesses, I mean seriously. Also I find Doug's comment to be weak anyways because you can hardly even see the strings especially when the rain is covering it up so this guy is really stretching for things to criticize and make jokes out of.
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@Angrybrony

Waaay back when MisAnthro was starting off, he attacked artist Lethal Aurora Mage (who is/was Byter's girlfriend, Byter being one of those "wah MLP sucks after season 3" reviewers…) in one of those rant videos. The reason it began to make people change their opinions on it was because it was not only poorly researched (he labeled her a reviewer because she was featured in a few videos, but was never an actual reviewer) and flat out even declaring that nobody should commission her when he brought up her DA Page.
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This is a general mood. I basically followed him when he started off and still supported him despite the reputation he got.

Now I just like his pony character than him because he's a trashy, arrogant, and borderline psychotic person. And even if he gets called, he sure as hell isn't gonna change now…


@northern haste

Didn't even learn from the LethalAuoraMage drama..
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I was soon noticed a bit of hypocrisy with MisAnthro involving rotten tomatoes Saying that it was a horrible site and anyone with half a brain would know at Because the ghostBuster reboot had a fresh score But yet on his Twitter he posted a gif about the negative score the lion king got

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