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  1. (subdividing into two)
    1. I agree that alternate design and alternate character design ought to be merged.
    2. I now see your point on why alternate character interpretation wouldn’t fit my set. Do you know of any tag that would be useful for highly-abstracted art that signifies the presence of a character? Something that would cover both my set and sex-implying blocks to signal that the inclusion of character tags is intentional even if their visual presence is not obvious?
  2. Perhaps neural network could be a subset of all computer generated images and other techniques could have their own respective tags (yes, neural networks aren’t the only way to teach your computer how to draw ponies). Both computer generated and machine learning currently have few enough images that even an unofficial redefinition is feasible (rather than a redefinition with moderator backing).
  3. What would you think about if a new CSS class was added for medium? traditional art, computer generated, screencap, neural network, names of specific NNs, watercolor (implying traditional art), etc…
    I still like the ai: prefix for the specific AIs, even if they’re still treated as ordinary tags.
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@saby
The best I’ve thought of is “scrapbook aesthetic”, but it seems pointless to tag it unless there’s a term that’s recognized across multiple sites, not just here.
In searching for what might be relevant, though, I was led to wonder what exactly should collage be used for? There are some posts that seem like outliers, where it’s used to mean “pasted onto a different background” or for “lots of elements in one image” (but not assembled from separate images)
Scrapbook aesthetic is a good term, but I think you’re right.
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I’ve removed the cutie mark implication from cutie mark on equestria girl and cutie mark on clothes, as neither mean the cutie mark is a focus of the image. As for cutie mark background, I think it could be added as the description says cutie mark tag can be used when the background is a cutie mark, and looking through the tag most images seem to fit that.
This tag should be used when a Cutie Mark is a major focus of an image. Either as the background or is significant to the picture.
Not to be used just because it happens to exist in the image.
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>ahegao expressions
Clearly not explicit since it’s just faces. If there were suspicious fluids it could be questionable, but with just expressions it’s suggestive.
>horse
Since it’s a realistically depicted natural horse, the under-tail detail doesn’t automatically make it non-safe. She’s swishing her tail in a very normal and casual way, and the genitals are very low detail, in shade, not focused on and not elaborated on. One could even argue the darker area isn’t a vulva, just a bit of dark bare under-tail skin and a slight cleavage where two pudgy horse buttocks smush together.
>the third case
Probably just a slip of the finger.
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Tagging Discussion » Request artist tag aliases here » Post 3363

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artist:mashiro is Derpi user Sssinohu’s associated artist tag
pre-emptive: artist:msssinohu as well - that’s their validated Twitter, but the tag has not been used yet.

Twitters mutually link: one, two (in the header)

artist:spark_rarestarartist:sparkling_light
pre-emptive: artist:sparkling.light
Derpibooru user Sparkling_Light, commishes account sparkling_light, VK account sparkling.light, Twitter account spark_rarestar

Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 14252

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@Markiz93
“cutie mark background”, agreed. “Cutie mark on human”, I don’t think so, because the description for the “cutie mark” tag says:
This tag should be used when a Cutie Mark is a major focus of an image. Either as the background or is significant to the picture.
Not to be used just because it happens to exist in the image.
…and nothing about “cutie mark on human” suggests it’s a major focus of the image.
On the other hand, “cutie mark on clothes” and “cutie mark on equestria girl” already imply “cutie mark” and IMO shouldn’t for the same reason, so what do I know..?
By the way, it looks like the “cutie mark” tag needs removing from a lot of images.
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Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 14250

Background Pony #52BA
@saby
The best I’ve thought of is “scrapbook aesthetic”, but it seems pointless to tag it unless there’s a term that’s recognized across multiple sites, not just here.
In searching for what might be relevant, though, I was led to wonder what exactly should collage be used for? There are some posts that seem like outliers, where it’s used to mean “pasted onto a different background” or for “lots of elements in one image” (but not assembled from separate images)
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Tagging Discussion » Proper tagging for AI-generated art? » Post 4

Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 14248

Background Pony #52BA
  1. Where is the line between alternate character interpretation and alternate character design?
I hadn’t even heard of those tags until just now.
75% of posts using “alternate character design” are for user Princess_Fluttershy’s OCs, leaving just 20 - so it seems redundant with alternate design and IMO should be aliased.
alternate character interpretation, with 43 posts not counting your set, isn’t well-established. Going by the words and the few images that have it, IMO it signifies different ideas for charaters’ roles, personalities, etc. which may or may not be visual - significantly overlapping “AU” and “headcanon”, but possibly distinct by applying to images that are just a one-shot and not part of a larger concept held by the artist. Things like “tyrant celestia” or “gamer luna” might fit, if the tag is even worth keeping.
(I wouldn’t use it on your image set.)
  1. Can we please have a general tag for ai generated art?
Presently, there are:
  • machine learning (which also applies to the topic of machine learning, not just the results),
  • neural network which is already implied by artist:thisponydoesnotexist (I am not an expert, but aren’t there other kinds of “ai” than neural networks?),
  • and computer generated which looks like the closest fit but I don’t think it’s worded precisely enough.
    • By the way, it seems that there was a pony AI developed and run under the tag artist:aerial - most of the posts tagged “computer generated” are from that, but not every “artist:aerial” post has been tagged “computer generated”
  1. We should have an ai: prefix that is treated like the existing artist: prefix.
Disagree, as I posted to your other thread. I think of it in the same way as tools or medium, like “ink drawing” or “source filmmaker”.
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Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 14247

PUBLIQclopAccountant
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice

Pubilq Phirm
Some relevant points brought up in that thread:
  1. Where is the line between alternate character interpretation and alternate character design`?
  2. Can we please have a general tag for ai generated art?
  3. We should have an ai: prefix that is treated like the existing artist: prefix.
  4. artist: tags on AI art should be for artists who gave specific prompts to the AI but not on auto-generated images like those of This Pony Does Not Exist.
Further thoughts?

Tagging Discussion » Proper tagging for AI-generated art? » Post 3

PUBLIQclopAccountant
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice

Pubilq Phirm
  1. For now, I’ll tag them (and similar future images) with artist:name here tags for the prompter of the AI and also an ai:name here tag for the AI. Additionally, I created the ai generated tag, which brings up two more complications:
    1. IMO, the existing artist:thisponydoesnotexist tag should be renamed to ai:thisponydoesnotexist.
    2. ai:name here tags ought to have the same CSS class as artist tags and imply the ai generated tag (though perhaps having both the ai: prefix and ai generated tag is a redundancy)
  2. I went with the existing alternate character interpretation plus the normal character tag. However, this one seems like it would be decided on an individual basis based on the content of the image. I see implied character tags as more so for tagging off-screen characters, significant background details that imply the presence of a character, or a character’s presence being entirely implied through color choices. Of this existing set, the Dashie & Twilight ones come closest to being merely implied characters. That all said, all six images do look more recognizable once they’ve been shrunk to a small thumbnail.
    There is also the existing alternate character design. What is an alternate design versus what is an alternate interpretation seems like it would be its own separate discussion. My gut feeling says that alternate designs keep the same biology and structure as the MLP we all know and love but alter the details (add coat patterns, alter body shape, etc…) while a full-on alternate interpretation may change species or be a pure AI monstrosity.
    I know there was a discussion of how sex-implying blocks were tagged during the This Pony Does Not Exist tagging discussion. Those seem relevant because they also have very little to do visually with MLP ponies yet they clearly are pony art.
  3. (gave my thoughts in 1 and 1-2, but I’ll go make a post in the general tagging thread as well)
  4. Using the url and watermark tags for this set
  5. Not much has changed in the tags. It still feels undertagged, yet perhaps it’s impossible to assign more tags because the AI can’t intentionally add taggable background details, unlike a human artist.

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