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Why do games get a pass?

@Inucroft
 

 
That’s the point.
 
People use actual reason against you.
 
And you use just your subjective views against them.
 
Can’t you see, what’s the problem here?
 
I think any reasonable person can.
 
Having some subjective view/opinion (no matter how much you believe in it) doesn’t make it an objective reason everyone will automatically agree with.

@Inucroft  
What’s your stance on content regarding Hell by any chance? Demons and the like.

@Background Pony #B384  
That’s only if you assume it was about actually fighting nazis, and not just boogeymanning them for clout and totalitarianism.

@Inucroft
 
Sigh.

@Background Pony #B384  
No. You’re just trying to grasp at reasons to justify your defence of content depicting an ideology that at it’s core advocates the extermination of undesirables.

@NamelessNP
 
The main conflict in this whole situation around Aryanne arts is that anti-nazi guys are chasing ghosts , and anti-censorship people can see the difference between the fiction and real Nazi.
 
In the end, even if all Aryanne arts would be banned here, the irony is that the anti-nazi guys wouldn’t affect the Nazi ideology impact or spread in the REAL world in the slightest.
 
All they would achieve is wasting a lot of their time, that they could spend on fighting the REAL neo-Nazi problem!
 
I guess it’s too scary for them to go out and try and fight actual neo-nazis. So they try to assert themeselves by attacking this site for very flawed reasons.

@NamelessNP  
Free Speech radicals, also known as Free Speech Absolutist.
 
A stance that is generally ONLY found in US centric attitudes that any censorship is wrong. Even if the censorship is of NAZI content or highly racial materials.
 
First Amendment absolutism fails more fundamentally, on its own terms. A witness who lies under oath surely has no constitutional immunity from prosecution, and yet her perjury is pure speech.
 
@Infinite Winter  
Satire such as Allo Allo, showing their incompetence or Dad’s Army where they are very clearly the bad guys.  
Nazi content should only be used in satire where is VERY clear it is demonising Nazism, otherwise only for educational uses or game content where it is nessisary.

@Inucroft  

 
I can’t believe I just read that

@Inucroft
 
On the contrary…
 
We can understand why anti-nazi activists object Nazi content, actually.
 
The more you hate something, the more you object the existence of that “something”, in general.  
That’s easy to understand.
 
But we, anti-censorship people, just happen to have our own opinion on the situation.  
We happen not to be so blinded by our own hate (and we do all hate real nazi and their ideology!) to the point of not realizing we’d be limiting the freedoms of the artists to explore and express themselves!
 
You may consider our opinions to be wrong. That’s your right.  
But it all comes down to opinions and subjective views.
 
I do see where your logic comes from: “if the results of your actions, no matter how well intentioned they are, will cause something bad to happen, then you all are allowing and techncially supporting that bad thing”.
 
Is that a correct take on it?
 
But, newsflash!  
Not every person in the world shares such a specific kind of logic!
 
I think that the best we can ALL do here, is to agree to disagree on the subject and move on.

@Datte-Before-Dawn
 
The KEK is real.
 
@Inucroft
 

 
Really though, you never said what kind of content featuring Nazis is appropriate for you. What you classify as satire and what not. By what you said, I have a feeling that to you Nazi featuring image need to have a 500 word essay about why Nazis bad written below it and signed by the author of the image.

@WyrmSpawN  
Nazi content is diffrent from wehrmacht. Wehrmacht was a rebranding of the Reichswehr  
That is another debate.

@Inucroft  
Don’t forget your earplugs. Wouldn’t want to get sand in there.
 
@WyrmSpawN  
@evan555alpha  
He has to hyper focus on the nazi part. Otherwise he might see the bigger picture, and that would ruin the moral aspect of his moral crusade.

@evan555alpha  
He probably does, or other extreme fetishes, and feels really guilty about it, and thus feels the need to make up for it. That’s how most cases end up.

@WyrmSpawN  
Guy’s got a hateboner for “Nazi” content. I’m sure that deep down, he’s in love with Aryanne.

@Officer Hotpants  
The fact he keeps calling it Nazi Content seems vague to me.
 
Most would think it’s things that specifically push Nazi talking points but the rule seems to be that anything with a swastika or german military symbols seems to count.

@Inucroft  
Well yeah, what’s wrong with the presence of Nazi content aside from you not liking it personally, what is really at stake here. The answer is you have no clue, you can’t prove anything bad will happen, so all you have is this arbitrary feeling inside your body. That’s not exactly a good sales pitch to those who don’t share your preferences in this regard.

@Officer Hotpants  
That’s not how reality works.
 
End of the day, currently you are defending Nazi content.  
A dead Nazi is a good Nazi. And that applies to art of Nazi content that is not being used appropriately.
 
If you can;t understand why people are objecting to NAZI content…….

@Inucroft  
Yeah, I saw it the first time you said it and it’s no less misguided now. Every chink in your armor makes it weaker. This laser-guided focus you have on the exact content being censored is keeping you from seeing the precedent being set with it. But you’ll learn. If not the easy way then the hard way.

I am proud to consider myself whatever the fuck a “Free Speech Radical” is
 
Back to Political Science class you go

@Officer Hotpants  

within reason. Some I may simply be indifferent to.
 
This entire thing is a result of the anti-censorship crowd shitting themselves over Nazi content being banned and panicking. And as the quote from my earlier comment highlights my stance.

@Inucroft  
Right now. Some of us are capable of considering where today’s actions will take us tomorrow, though. You should try it. It’s usually horrifying.

@Officer Hotpants  
If that is what you take from this. You’re wrong but eh.
 
The entire debate and moderation debate by the admins is jsut about the Nazi content.  
All the other issues have been used by the anti-censorship crew to try to dfend their stance. Whenever somebody has commented about other contiencious content from the Anti-Nazi side, it has always been in REPLY.

@evan555alpha  
At first I thought you were being too hard on yourself. But yeah. Drip’s a dip. Good art but I’ve never seen him say something that wasn’t unreasonably hostile.
 
@Inucroft  
“I don’t care what all of you say the issue is. Your issue is what I say it is!”

@Inucroft  
I do consider myself a free speech extremist :)