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At what point does a Pistol just turn into an SMG?

Cuz Machine Pistols really muddy the classification waters:

I don’t think that stocks are enough to determine that shit.

@Background Pony #AA1F
Well, pistol with a stock is certainly more stable than without one, but it’s also more unwieldy in day-to-day activities. IDK who would be the customer for such a thing, perhaps people in countries that ban long guns.

And what you’d think about this? What opinion you can give?
I mean I know in the US you have to do all the paperwork for manufacturing a SBR and all that, but I think it’d help in regards to self defence.

(I mean more stocks for pistols in general but that’s a FAB Defense GLR 17)

And yeh I understand it’s a meme, it actually made me laugh my arse off, but I mean it as one of the reasons I’m asking

Why?

A reminder that this is a pony website:

No, having a third point of contact with the body (the buttstock) really helps increase stability, which in turn increases precision.

If you are about to enter a gunfight and you can pick between a pistol and a rifle, the rifle is way better. (Assuming you are equally proficient with both, there are no unusual conditions, etc.)

No idea, I have no experience with fancy folding ARs.

These are only memes, like conceal carrying a shotgun in a pant leg. Carrying a long gun in a holster is going to be very cumbersome even if it’s foldable.

Just wondering…

Are pistols as precise for longer ranges as rifles?

In regards to personal defense, which one is better? (Excluding of course the portability). Like, if someone suddenly brought an AK-47 and tried to shoot people, what gun you’d be more preferable having?

And is this good for that matter?

(Asking because Gun Jesus’s memes of the folding shotgun that fits in a pistol holster)

@Ebalosus
Yeah, I don’t get 556 out of 10-inch barrels. Especially when people put huge ass muzzle brakes on them and go to the range.

I will at least give them credit for going with 300 blk instead of a 5.56mm meme carbine, since the latter often leads to guns with less muzzle energy than 9mm para out of a similar-length barrel, lol.

@CaptainXtra
Attachments don’t change the round. Sure, longer barrel gives slightly more velocity, but that’s it.

Small intermediate cartridge carbines are already not much bigger than PCCs/SMGs, while providing more firepower. This is a reason why there’s a trend of SWAT/police forces abandoning SMGs. For example, German police wants to replace the MP5 (9x19mm) with HK437 (.300 Blackout aka 7.62x32mm).

HK437 looks like this:

Size comparison with an MP5, both suppressed and stock collapsed/folded:

I know that sometimes Cops have Shotguns and Rifles stored in their cruisers in case a situation gets way too intense for a 9mm alone to handle but what about attachments that turn their little peashooter into a carbine?

No matter how many headshots you get in COD, you’ll never be as MLG as these champs:

Imagine how many Russian Warehouses are dedicated to storing the hand me down AK-47’s left by the Soviet Union…

Also, HOW DOES THIS GUY NOT HAVE HIS ARMS BREAK OFF ENTIRELY?

@Ebalosus
I am constantly amazed by the things people come up with in that space.

The one you quick-draw dry-fired every morning before work a la Elisjsha Dicken _{(the guy who shot Greenwood Park Mall shooter)}, and you too can hopefully get 8 out of 10 shots on target at 40 yards (which is amazing for a tilting-barrel pistol). “Which gun is better at ‘x’” is largely a meme since it’s often a [snake oil] substitute for good training and practice.

Anyhow, I was recently made aware of a cool new project from AWCY? Weight-Forward Designs Defence Distributed Deterrence Dispensed some guy online: The Roller-delayed Belt-fed Carbine - 9mm, or RBC-9 for short.

The fact that this is moderately workable and in beta is crazy, because both the roller-delayed action and the belt-feeding mechanism aren’t exactly easy to replicate in a traditional machine shop, let alone on a 3D-printer. Though the barrel is from an AR-9, there’s no reason it can’t be ECM’d like the FGC-9 and its derivatives. Want an idea of how crazy that someone got this working in the 3D-printed gun space, go look up any video by Ian McCollum on belt-fed LMGs or anything roller-delayed.

No one responded to my previous post so here’s a cursed rifle:

Outcomes of gunfights are sometimes determined by who fires first instead of who has the bigger gun.

With that said, what are some of the quickest guns to draw and fire off?

@FliegerFaustToP47
Looks like ACR with additional stuff bolted on.

Rifle from Oblivion (The one Jack Harper uses)

That classic sleek pocket pistol that actually had an internal hammer despite it’s name?
They should bring it back.

Which apparently in real life is a Ruger Mini-14 put into a bullpup configuration in a flimsy plastic stock.

FN P90

Morita Mk I Rifle (Starship Troopers)

That would technically be a wildcat cartridge if I’m not mistaken.