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Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1179
aperture_tech 
lol
@Inucroft
I think that’s really something we can all agree on. They really shit the bed here.
I think that’s really something we can all agree on. They really shit the bed here.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1177
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1176
doloresbridge 
I mean I think I have two possible paths on it but I am curious as to what others on my side think.
Peace to all
To my fellow anti-censorship…ers? What do you think about certain specific instances like I posted here:@doloresbridge
staff themselves were admitting that they were not enforcing old rules properly.
That means even if we “go back” then we STILL have censorship, just “old rules censorship” one.I think that there could be a legit discussion of some stuff that did slip through under the old rules that would qualify to be deleted under the true old system. For example this flag:
>>1807482 (deleted)
and this:
>>1860627
Both use a variant of the black sun, a symbol that from my understanding is mainly tied to neo nazi and occult groups. I mean this arguably would go against rule 0 as it existed since they went after other stuff truly neo nazish stuff. Though that is vary different than whatever the mods have cooked up now. I mean the proposed rules sound fine on paper but in practice their still is a fair bit of gray.
I mean I think I have two possible paths on it but I am curious as to what others on my side think.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1175
Lord WyrmSpawN 
Lingering Wyvern
@Background Pony #B384
I think there are many factors that would keep that from being as effective “this time around”.
I think there are many factors that would keep that from being as effective “this time around”.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1174
Background Pony #9E60
@Dsiak
They’re not sissy westerners if that’s what ya mean, lol. It’s the Fuerzas Bolivarianas de Liberación, they used to do Delta Force style raids on Righty compounds like the FLOOP (yes, rly. Not such a good acronym) under Chavez as ‘guest officers’ (think American ‘combat advisors’ in Saudi/Afghanistan)
Lot of those old tribal indigenous groups have an ‘everyone trains and fights equally’ mentalities
They’re not sissy westerners if that’s what ya mean, lol. It’s the Fuerzas Bolivarianas de Liberación, they used to do Delta Force style raids on Righty compounds like the FLOOP (yes, rly. Not such a good acronym) under Chavez as ‘guest officers’ (think American ‘combat advisors’ in Saudi/Afghanistan)
Lot of those old tribal indigenous groups have an ‘everyone trains and fights equally’ mentalities
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1173
Background Pony #B384
This! So much this!
@Inucroft
Just read this, because it’s worded a lot better than I ever could:
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/why-is-this-still-going-on-smiling-pony-it-s-your-site-do-something?post_id=4878713#post_4878713
Just read this, because it’s worded a lot better than I ever could:
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/why-is-this-still-going-on-smiling-pony-it-s-your-site-do-something?post_id=4878713#post_4878713
Making what people see to symbolize them a martyr is a bad idea; we’re working right now on better rules that target images that actually seem designed to promote racism.
Do realize, when the actual Nazis came to power, they didn’t get people on board with their ideas by shoving swastikas in their faces, they did it with things like children’s books that showed Jewish people as being untrustworthy and ugly.
This! So much this!
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1170
Aeternis Tenebris
@Inucroft
Chrysalis may not have been the best pick, but real life also has/had plenty of tyrants that enslave countries/kingdoms/ect… like Sombra. Guess we gotta ban all the pics of him now, since they’re clearly endorsing such people.
Chrysalis may not have been the best pick, but real life also has/had plenty of tyrants that enslave countries/kingdoms/ect… like Sombra. Guess we gotta ban all the pics of him now, since they’re clearly endorsing such people.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1168
Inucroft
Hater of Nazi edgelords
@Background Pony #B384
So under that logic, the USSR, UK, Frnace and USA should not have gone to war with nazi germany.
That USA should not have taken arms when the British invaded the 13 Colonies.
History shows you’re in the wrong
@aperture_tech
One is based on a irl ideology that still has proponents, the other is a fictional creature that tries to eat love.
These false equivalence arguments are daft.
So under that logic, the USSR, UK, Frnace and USA should not have gone to war with nazi germany.
That USA should not have taken arms when the British invaded the 13 Colonies.
History shows you’re in the wrong
@aperture_tech
One is based on a irl ideology that still has proponents, the other is a fictional creature that tries to eat love.
These false equivalence arguments are daft.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1167
Background Pony #B384
@aperture_tech
@Infinite Winter
Another problem of many anti-nazi (or any other anti-“something”) activists is that they don’t understand a simple truth:
Using violence to stop violence, sometimes can be just as morally corrupt as those you’re trying to stop.
But in the “Derpibooru Drama”‘s case it’s not even about preventing some violence with violence.
The anti-nazi people are ready to use violence against non-violent people who simply want to draw what they want, and let others like arts they wish to like.
And in this situation, the anti-nazi guys are figthing a wrong fight here. It’s utterly useless for their real goal (stop the Nazi idelogy infecting people in real world). They need to justify their movement and they want to have such “small victories”, no matter how insignificant in the long run. And on their way they don’t care about other people’s feelings or opinions.
@Infinite Winter
Another problem of many anti-nazi (or any other anti-“something”) activists is that they don’t understand a simple truth:
Using violence to stop violence, sometimes can be just as morally corrupt as those you’re trying to stop.
But in the “Derpibooru Drama”‘s case it’s not even about preventing some violence with violence.
The anti-nazi people are ready to use violence against non-violent people who simply want to draw what they want, and let others like arts they wish to like.
And in this situation, the anti-nazi guys are figthing a wrong fight here. It’s utterly useless for their real goal (stop the Nazi idelogy infecting people in real world). They need to justify their movement and they want to have such “small victories”, no matter how insignificant in the long run. And on their way they don’t care about other people’s feelings or opinions.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1166
Background Pony #B384
This is as flawed as the following statements:
Nazi content, unless clearly anti-Nazi promotes hate speech.
This is as flawed as the following statements:
- “Incest arts/fiction, unless clearly anti-Incest, promotes Incestuous Relationships in real world.”
- “Scat arts/fiction, unless clearly anti-Scat, promotes Scat Fetish in real world.”
- “Rape arts/fiction, unless clearly anti-Rape, promotes Raping People in real world.”
And so on and so forth…
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1165
aperture_tech
lol
@Inucroft
Can you at least spell the plural of nazi correctly? I don’t know how nazis can own “are”.
Besides that, your arguments are also a joke. Queen Chrysalis is also evil in the show - this is literally how she has been depicted this entire time. Should the unreformed villains in MLP also be banned? They are, after all, evil.
Can you at least spell the plural of nazi correctly? I don’t know how nazis can own “are”.
Besides that, your arguments are also a joke. Queen Chrysalis is also evil in the show - this is literally how she has been depicted this entire time. Should the unreformed villains in MLP also be banned? They are, after all, evil.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1164
Background Pony #BA40
@Inucroft
Right right, but i mean their depiction in art form and the like, making demons look cute and sexy, etc.
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=succubus
Right right, but i mean their depiction in art form and the like, making demons look cute and sexy, etc.
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=succubus
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1163
Infinite Winter 
Go to Ponybooru
@Inucroft
If this is true, then why it was debunked that video games are promoting violence? Most of them are not showing violence as something bad, many even vise versa.
You are accusing everyone of using fallacies, but in the end you are using one yourself as your main argument.
If this is true, then why it was debunked that video games are promoting violence? Most of them are not showing violence as something bad, many even vise versa.
You are accusing everyone of using fallacies, but in the end you are using one yourself as your main argument.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1162
Officer Hotpants 
Literally3HitlersInACoat
@Inucroft
Rape content, unless clearly anti-rape, promotes disconcern for consent.
Rape content, unless clearly anti-rape, promotes disconcern for consent.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1161
Inucroft
Hater of Nazi edgelords
@Background Pony #B384
Nazi content, unless clearly anti-Nazi promotes hate speech.
Nazi content, unless clearly anti-Nazi promotes hate speech.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1160
Infinite Winter
Go to Ponybooru
@Inucroft
Aaaand here is where you are wrong. Your argument is: Nazi featuring content should be banned if it is not very clearly a satire or not shows them in a very negative light.
Our argument: Nazi featuring content should be allowed unless it advocates for IRL violence. And Nazi content that shows them in neutral light is not promoting violence.
Aaaand here is where you are wrong. Your argument is: Nazi featuring content should be banned if it is not very clearly a satire or not shows them in a very negative light.
Our argument: Nazi featuring content should be allowed unless it advocates for IRL violence. And Nazi content that shows them in neutral light is not promoting violence.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1159
Background Pony #B384
Stop twisting it to your convenience, please.
People’s argument is: ALL arts are allowed (if they weren’t created just to attack real people or promote hate speech, etc.)
Well, OF COURSE, it would ALSO include nazi arts (not every single one of them, mind you).
Because “ALL arts” covers ALL arts by default.
The proper comparison of two arguments would be something like the following ones:
Murderers are evil.
Murder arts are allowed.
Rapists are evil.
Rape arts are allowed.
Devils are evil.
Devil arts are allowed.
My argument’s foundations: Nazi’s are evil
Your argument: Nazi’s are allowed
Stop twisting it to your convenience, please.
People’s argument is: ALL arts are allowed (if they weren’t created just to attack real people or promote hate speech, etc.)
Well, OF COURSE, it would ALSO include nazi arts (not every single one of them, mind you).
Because “ALL arts” covers ALL arts by default.
The proper comparison of two arguments would be something like the following ones:
Murderers are evil.
Murder arts are allowed.
Rapists are evil.
Rape arts are allowed.
Devils are evil.
Devil arts are allowed.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1158
Inucroft
Hater of Nazi edgelords
@evan555alpha
No.
I’m stated what the current academic theology thinks about the subject.
You can be a theologian while being an atheist
Lets see:
My argument’s foundations: Nazi’s are evil
Your argument: Nazi’s are allowed
No.
I’m stated what the current academic theology thinks about the subject.
You can be a theologian while being an atheist
Lets see:
My argument’s foundations: Nazi’s are evil
Your argument: Nazi’s are allowed
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1157
evan555alpha 
That would explain your arguments have been so weak…
PSA: R0 was changed!
Even a good argument is useless when it’s built on nonexistant foundation
That would explain your arguments have been so weak…
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1156
Lord WyrmSpawN
Lingering Wyvern
@Officer Hotpants
Because the object is usually to kill Nazis.
No matter what you show them doing, your mission is to avenge the innocents.
Because the object is usually to kill Nazis.
No matter what you show them doing, your mission is to avenge the innocents.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1155
Background Pony #8110
@Inucroft
Yeah I’m defending the continued platform for that content on this website, and? Can you show me how this will result in an outcome I would wish to avoid? Can you appeal to things other than your disgust for this ideology? No you can’t, which means you can’t convince me nor anybody else who shares my position to side with you. Your strategy is utterly ineffective against us, that’s what I’m getting at.
Yeah I’m defending the continued platform for that content on this website, and? Can you show me how this will result in an outcome I would wish to avoid? Can you appeal to things other than your disgust for this ideology? No you can’t, which means you can’t convince me nor anybody else who shares my position to side with you. Your strategy is utterly ineffective against us, that’s what I’m getting at.
Site and Policy » Concerned Users of Derpibooru » Post 1154
Inucroft
Hater of Nazi edgelords
@Background Pony #BA40
In current Christian Theology, hell is not a literal place but a metaphor for being separated from God after Judgement Day.
Demons are, in theology, are taught to be fallen angels and a metaphor for the constant battle within our minds between what is right & wrong.
@Background Pony #B384
I’m sorry, but those reasons are grasping at straws to justify you defense of nazi content.
if you you trying to defend another content on this site that is not idolising an intolerant idoloegy, your argument would hold more water.
Even a good argument is useless when it’s built on nonexistant foundation
In current Christian Theology, hell is not a literal place but a metaphor for being separated from God after Judgement Day.
Demons are, in theology, are taught to be fallen angels and a metaphor for the constant battle within our minds between what is right & wrong.
@Background Pony #B384
I’m sorry, but those reasons are grasping at straws to justify you defense of nazi content.
if you you trying to defend another content on this site that is not idolising an intolerant idoloegy, your argument would hold more water.
Even a good argument is useless when it’s built on nonexistant foundation
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