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Neat.

I like the other 3, but Imma be crying myself to sleep for some time over "(character)" still being a part of Sphinx’s tag.

So do tags get retroactively converted to the new names, or will older images keep the names?
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That’s not correct. While they don’t work together directly (DHX writers and IDW writers don’t sit in a meeting room to discuss and to line up the respective episodes and comic issues together), it was said by someone from IDW a while ago that there is a story consultant from Hasbro whose job it is to ensure that the plot of the show, the official comics and the official books fit together and don’t contradict each other. MLP: FiM isn’t simply outsourced to IDW and then they can do whatever they want with it. They still need to adhere to the all-inclusive G4 canon.
I can’t recall where I’ve seen this statement and who made it and I didn’t screenshot it for some reason. But you can see it very directly in the comics themselves, too.
It’s strange that this still has to be a matter of discussion, after the Season 7 tie-in rendered the entire argument of comic canon deniers meaningless, but I’m ignoring that for a moment now.
References to the official comics have been made before Season 7 came around. The #1 ultimate argument of comic canon deniers was always that the comics can reference the show, but that the show never references the comics, which they used as a way to say that there is only a one-sided connection. That didn’t make sense to begin with already, if the official comics are able to display or reference events from the show it’s obvious that these events happened in the same universe and continuity, but it got ditched completely when Season 6 came around.
Two things that have been famously introduced by the official comics were the game "Ogres and Oubliettes" and that Applebloom, Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle are members of the filly guides. We’ve seen that in the official comics first. And nothing ever indicated that the show could bring that up, which fit to the argument of the comic canon deniers.
But then Season 6 came and "28 Pranks Later" aired and, big surprise, we did see Applebloom, Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle as filly guides in that episode, for the first time ever in the show:





Two episodes later then, "Dungeons & Discords" was an entire episode about Ogres and Oubliettes.

It’s also important to keep remembering the origins of how it came to be that the official comics got the reputation of not being canon. The only reason this happened was because the second arc of the official comics was interpreted as a contradiction by its readers, when they saw that Nightmare Moon returned from the moon and took Rarity. They were thinking this meant that the comics portrayed Nightmare Moon as a monster from the moon, rather than a being created by Luna’s mind, since the Nightmare Moon in that arc didn’t come out of Luna, while they actually overlooked a plot point.
It was in another arc of the official comics, one that ironically came out in 2016 as well, that it was proven that the official comics didn’t contradict the show there, as they showed that Nightmare Moon was still in Luna’s body.
Luna got soaked with cursed water and, while that same water has simply turned the Mane Six evil before, it freed Nightmare Moon and let her take control of Luna again.
There isn’t any ground to stand on for comic canon deniers if the same comics that they accused of contradicting Nightmare Moon’s origins portray her origin in the same way as the show did.

The bottom line of that is, the belief that the official comics aren’t canon, or, that the show could overrule them and render them non-canon only came to be because of the misinterpretations of the second arc by people who didn’t pay enough attention to it.
The only reason why there are still so many people clinging to that belief is because they have a hard time letting go of it and accepting that they were in the wrong all along and therefore refuse to do that. It’s so ingrained in the fandom’s collective consciousness by now, that it’s hard to get rid of that belief.

Those were first introduced in the show.

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Isn’t he right about the non-canon screamers, though? Ever since the Nightmare Rarity arc, these people have been basing their opinion that the comics are non-canon on their own shortcomings with paying proper attention to the plot. That they overlooked one line by Luna is responsible for it that the official comics get stamped with the "Different Continuity" mark until this day.
I can’t see why it’s "crap" to point out that the belief the official comics show events from a different continuity is merely rooted in negligence and unattentive reading.

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Can you still post to this?

If so, have the sphinx be named Samkaa, have Mr. Shy’s name be Cirrus Shy, Mrs. name should be Sunfly Shy, and Trixie’s mom should be Honeybread Lulamoon.

Just random thoughts from the top of my head.
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it throws a huge spotlight on the real motivation behind the ones who scream the loudest about ~~non-canon~~ instead of just sticking with the continuity they like best.


Crap like this is why you’re not allowed to post in the unpopular opinion thread any more. Maybe instead of assuming the worst about people who have different ideas about these things, you should just learn to accept that not everyone will agree with your subjective position on this, and quit constantly whining about it.
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the easiest way to reconcile it is to just consider the comics an alternate universe that aren’t non-canon, just a separate continuity

This is so unambiguously the correct way to go about it that it throws a huge spotlight on the real motivation behind the ones who scream the loudest about ~~non-canon~~ instead of just sticking with the continuity they like best. Hasbro has been doing this since 1984-85 when the Transformers and GI Joe cartoons came out and were clearly based in completely different continuities from their respective comics.

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So, both names came from the end credits

I’d say getting named in the credits is good enough for site tags, but should still be understood to be secondary canon given how often the credits have misspelled names like Princess Cadance and Big Macintosh and Appleloosa. They even get actors’ names wrong on occasion.
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Did those names (Velvet and Night Light) even used in the show?


They’ve never been named in-show, but their first speaking appearance had them credited as "Mr./Mrs. Sparkle", while their next speaking appearance (Once Upon A Zeppelin) had them credited as "Twilight Velvet/Night Light".
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You don’t need to "buy" anything. It is plot ambiguity and supposed to be like that. Pretty much every other show does the same and their fandoms don’t say "Our show isn’t supposed to be taken serious". It’s only our fandom that is weird like that.
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is supposed to be taken seriously as much as any other show is.
Saying otherwise is insulting and nothing but an excuse by people who can’t or don’t want to look into it deeply. This fandom and its condescending, even downright discriminatory, view of MLP: FiM is the problem, not the show.
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