SkarletKardinal
@Vivace
Crap, I forgot! I thought this was an “in general” or “non-pony” thread. I’m so sorry.
Crap, I forgot! I thought this was an “in general” or “non-pony” thread. I’m so sorry.
Unpopular opinion time
Spinny 
They’ve also never shown the slightest indication that they were tired of ruling Equestria until they suddenly revealed their retirement plans to Twilight.
Clearly, they would not have done that if they weren’t sick to death of the job.
Resident Spin Fetishist
Considering Celestia and Luna have shown no angst over immortality in the series whatsoever, kinda doubt it.
They’ve also never shown the slightest indication that they were tired of ruling Equestria until they suddenly revealed their retirement plans to Twilight.
Clearly, they would not have done that if they weren’t sick to death of the job.
RogueBadnik 
⌜Ω⌟
Luna couldnt windstand ruling Equestria along her sister after only few years.
I wonder if Twilight will not suffer the same problem too.
I wonder if Twilight will not suffer the same problem too.
Spinny
Resident Spin Fetishist
- Dying how?
- Eh, screw prophecies. And I’m sure we’d have heard about that one if it existed.
- And they didn’t reveal their plans to Twilight until the last minute because Celestia is a domineering cunt who manipulated Twilight’s love and respect of her to foist her into life choices she never asked for.
@AC97
Well, I guess the alternative is that Celestia and Luna have confined themselves to a retirement home for all eternity. I’m just saying, I could realistically see alicorn longevity being tied to ruling Equestria, specifically raising the sun and moon, which is a duty that Celestia and Luna have also given up.
Lord WyrmSpawN 
Lingering Wyvern
@Latecomer
Maybe she has the amulet setup on a timer somewhere, automated.
Maybe she has the amulet setup on a timer somewhere, automated.
Latecomer
@EquestrianScholar
She didn’t give her any real choice in becoming an alicorn, or a princess, or taking over Equestria. Oh sure. maybe she could have tecnically said “no” to the latter two, but she’s used to taking Celestia’s orders.
She didn’t give her any real choice in becoming an alicorn, or a princess, or taking over Equestria. Oh sure. maybe she could have tecnically said “no” to the latter two, but she’s used to taking Celestia’s orders.
Spinny
Resident Spin Fetishist
@Latecomer
Well, one clue is that Celestia prefaced her news that she was retiring with the blatant lie that Equestria is experiencing its longest period of peace ever. It’s heavily implied the millennium of Celestia’s solo rule had didn’t exactly have new villains popping out of the woodwork every few months like the last few years have been for Equestria.
On top of that, she might just generally be tired of being utterly useless whenever disasters occur, and she wants to relinquish her responsibility over Equestria before she makes another Twilight’s Kingdom-level blunder. That would be completely understandable.
And lastly, Twilight was the perfectly ideal candidate to replace her, so she actually had a suitable heir by which she could finally relieve herself of the duty she’s upheld for ages, and Twilight, of course, would never say no.
As for the sunset in The Last Problem, that might just be an oversight, or like PonyPon said, Twilight found a way to get the device to work automatically. As a matter of fact, I would actually feel better about that idea, because I hated the fact that on top of ruling the country, Twilight had to be responsible for bringing both the day and the night. And of course, it’s probably still using her magic to operate, so technically, she’s still the one doing it.
Well, one clue is that Celestia prefaced her news that she was retiring with the blatant lie that Equestria is experiencing its longest period of peace ever. It’s heavily implied the millennium of Celestia’s solo rule had didn’t exactly have new villains popping out of the woodwork every few months like the last few years have been for Equestria.
On top of that, she might just generally be tired of being utterly useless whenever disasters occur, and she wants to relinquish her responsibility over Equestria before she makes another Twilight’s Kingdom-level blunder. That would be completely understandable.
And lastly, Twilight was the perfectly ideal candidate to replace her, so she actually had a suitable heir by which she could finally relieve herself of the duty she’s upheld for ages, and Twilight, of course, would never say no.
As for the sunset in The Last Problem, that might just be an oversight, or like PonyPon said, Twilight found a way to get the device to work automatically. As a matter of fact, I would actually feel better about that idea, because I hated the fact that on top of ruling the country, Twilight had to be responsible for bringing both the day and the night. And of course, it’s probably still using her magic to operate, so technically, she’s still the one doing it.
RaineV1
@Latecomer
I’m trying not to judge Celestia that harshly because in the end she’s just a fictional character being controlled by writers. It was writers that chose to set this up without giving any convincing arguments why to the audience, and who seemed to think dropping this on Twilight with no warning was okay. And it’s likely that the audience cared more about the canon and lore leading to this the writers who were just trying to give a meaningful ending to the series (a rather hamfisted one).
I’m trying not to judge Celestia that harshly because in the end she’s just a fictional character being controlled by writers. It was writers that chose to set this up without giving any convincing arguments why to the audience, and who seemed to think dropping this on Twilight with no warning was okay. And it’s likely that the audience cared more about the canon and lore leading to this the writers who were just trying to give a meaningful ending to the series (a rather hamfisted one).
Deep!
- Best Friends Until the End of Time is the GOAT MLP song. Not only is it super catchy and cheery, but it title and lyrics perfectly show what the franchise is all about.
- Rarity and AJ’s friendship is the best in the show because it shows that 2 people who are completely different can still be best friends.
Mr.Myoozik 
Music Connoisseur
@gingerninja666
Couldn’t have asked for anything more or less really. She’s content with what she have, she has her friends by her side and she can at last have a place to settle down. Additionally, she can tell her students: “Stay in school to understand friendship so you won’t go down the same path that I did”.
Couldn’t have asked for anything more or less really. She’s content with what she have, she has her friends by her side and she can at last have a place to settle down. Additionally, she can tell her students: “Stay in school to understand friendship so you won’t go down the same path that I did”.
AC97
Not denying that it wasn’t as frequently eventful, but I can tell you’re kinda biased towards “Celestia didn’t really have to deal with villains,” which is 100% headcanon, based on nothing but the line “…and harmony has been maintained in Equestria for generations since,” in the series premiere, when the word “maintained” can imply that there’s effort involved in doing so, including fighting.
You know, people keep saying Celestia feels useless, but if you pay attention, you’ll notice that a good percentage of the time she loses (S2, S4 [premiere], S6, the Movie, S9), it’s often due to cheap shots and/or bad luck, not actual incompetence or impotence (which if anything, on the latter, you could make a strong case she actually fears the opposite), not to mention the heavy implication some of the hands-off approach those two had was by design, in the premiere.
Maybe you can make a good case that they’re somewhat out of practice in some areas (regarding fighting skills, but that is rather correctable), but Celestia and Luna would’ve pulverized Cozy Glow, if it weren’t for that bell being pulled out of nowhere, because they went for the Sombra-stomping combo move.
It’s heavily implied the millennium of Celestia’s solo rule had didn’t exactly have new villains popping out of the woodwork every few months like the last few years have been for Equestria.
Not denying that it wasn’t as frequently eventful, but I can tell you’re kinda biased towards “Celestia didn’t really have to deal with villains,” which is 100% headcanon, based on nothing but the line “…and harmony has been maintained in Equestria for generations since,” in the series premiere, when the word “maintained” can imply that there’s effort involved in doing so, including fighting.
On top of that, she might just generally be tired of being utterly useless whenever disasters occur, and she wants to relinquish her responsibility over Equestria before she makes another Twilight’s Kingdom-level blunder.
You know, people keep saying Celestia feels useless, but if you pay attention, you’ll notice that a good percentage of the time she loses (S2, S4 [premiere], S6, the Movie, S9), it’s often due to cheap shots and/or bad luck, not actual incompetence or impotence (which if anything, on the latter, you could make a strong case she actually fears the opposite), not to mention the heavy implication some of the hands-off approach those two had was by design, in the premiere.
Maybe you can make a good case that they’re somewhat out of practice in some areas (regarding fighting skills, but that is rather correctable), but Celestia and Luna would’ve pulverized Cozy Glow, if it weren’t for that bell being pulled out of nowhere, because they went for the Sombra-stomping combo move.
LeoNero 
Shine On U Crazy Diamond
I had this headcanon for Chrysalis.
At one point in time, Chrysalis was considered to be the embodiment of perfection and purity. Considered to be the most beautiful being in Equestria. Until she went through a rough heartbreak many moons ago. The sadness, anger and eventually darkness felt in her heart started to take over her. Much like Stygian and much like Nightmare Moon. Corrupted to the point of where she became the dark changeling you see today. Thus creating the changeling army and her mission to take back the lost love that’s been ripped away from her.
At one point in time, Chrysalis was considered to be the embodiment of perfection and purity. Considered to be the most beautiful being in Equestria. Until she went through a rough heartbreak many moons ago. The sadness, anger and eventually darkness felt in her heart started to take over her. Much like Stygian and much like Nightmare Moon. Corrupted to the point of where she became the dark changeling you see today. Thus creating the changeling army and her mission to take back the lost love that’s been ripped away from her.
AC97
@LeoNero
That reminds me of an old headcanon, where that princess mentioned in Hearts and Hooves Day, regarding the love potion/love poison, was actually Chrysalis.
Of course, that would raise the question of “after the potion curse got broken, how exactly did the being a changeling queen part happen,” which “going downhill with dark magic one way or the other” may cover that, but it’d be nondescript.
That reminds me of an old headcanon, where that princess mentioned in Hearts and Hooves Day, regarding the love potion/love poison, was actually Chrysalis.
Of course, that would raise the question of “after the potion curse got broken, how exactly did the being a changeling queen part happen,” which “going downhill with dark magic one way or the other” may cover that, but it’d be nondescript.
RogueBadnik
⌜Ω⌟
@LeoNero
Hmmmm… I would like Chrysalis to be a separate entity or evil reincarnation from that “embodiment of purity”. Like some kind of good/evil twins.
Hmmmm… I would like Chrysalis to be a separate entity or evil reincarnation from that “embodiment of purity”. Like some kind of good/evil twins.
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