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As was once discussed elsewhere, she and Chrysalis are amazing mid-tier villains- they can show up for mid-season scuffles or finale epic clashes, and both work for them. Starlight especially is a missed opportunity- imagine if she got episodes like “The Mean Six” or, even better, an episode dedicated to actually organizing a revolution. I love, love, love Starlight post-reformation, but they did so little with her that the opportunity cost is too high.
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This is how I feel about Discord. Except I do hate him as a good guy. Chrysie was right in Frenemies when she said “Discord was really something before friendship ruined him.”
 
I completely disagree about Starlight, though. It was clear from her very first apperance that unlike most villains, she actually had good intentions but was extremely misguided. At no point would she have any reason to work for someone obviously evil like Grogar. Plus, Twilight is an understanding Princess of Friendship, so it makes sense for her to try and teach Starlight that she was wrong.
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Yeah, yeah, misguided and all. That just makes her the one who turns on the villains when she finally lets go of her vendetta. And also, for what it’s worth, an opportunity was also missed in not making her an ideologue- Equestria is far from a perfect society, real communists would make inroads there with little effort. Starlight staying a villain for at least another season with an appearance or two would be great- imagine if “The Cutie Re-Mark” was the S6 or S7 finale, with her making background appearances throughout with an episode dedicated to her at some point.
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But she never would’ve wanted to work for Grogar. It’d be like Stalin agreeing to work with Hitler.
 
Anyway, I liked it being wrapped up in the Season 5 finale better. I don’t really see evil Starlight having much potential outside of the episodes she was used in. We wanna see cute good Glim Glam!
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I think you misunderstand the comparison I am trying to draw. None of the villains work for Grogar, they work with him so they can use him to accomplish their goals and then backstab him. Which, historically, is what Hitler and Stalin planned to do to one another. My analogy stands. Anyway, I can see evil Glim working with him because she’s out of options.
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Incorrect, Cozy was totally on board for it and it makes total sense for Chrysie and Tirek to be convinced, so that they can have power. Doesn’t make sense with Starlight.
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They only decided to backstab him at the end of this last episode. If he’d done things the way they wanted him to, they would’ve reluctently agreed to work under him in order to get power for themselves. Starlight would’ve found that unacceptable.
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Chrysalis: “What are you suggesting?”
Grogar: “I suggest nothing. I demand that you join me, and together, Equestria will be ours!”
 
It wasn’t a choice, and he pretty much threatened to kill them at the end of the premiere if they wanted to bail.
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And Starlight seems fine with being yet another pawn.
 
Starlight wants to be happy and wants to do Twilight proud. She specifically didn’t LIKE being a leader because she doesn’t think she deserves it. Even though she can lead when needed, it seems to bring her no pleasure and occurs only when pragmatism demands it.
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But he wouldn’t have asked them in the first place if he didn’t believe they had mutual goals. There’s a reason he chose the four characters he did, even if he did have to threaten them to get them in shape.
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I don’t really think so. She believes in equality and Grogar wants himself to be superior to everyone else. She’d be increasing the amount of inequality in the world if she worked for him and would be knowingly hurting innocent ponies in the process, which she’s never wanted.
 
Don’t forget, she was unaware of the alternate timelines she was creating in the Season 5 finale and seeing one of them helped her realize she was in the wrong.
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That’s exactly how the saying goes.
 
You can either be one of many pawns on the “Feel good” side all sharing the benefits, or you can put your talent (and mysterious tendency for everything to go your way no matter what) to use for you and you only. When you’ve got a disproportionate advantage, why not?
 
It’s pretty clear that had she remained a villain, there’d have been no issues with showcasing her as an actual threat, something the current roster struggle with on the regular after their initial defeat.
 
Tirek is a patient schemer with magical abilities requiring him to go on the offensive (All-in escalation strategy with little room for allies).  
Chrysalis is a reckless infiltrator that tends to leave parts of her plans open to being exploited with average magical powers, also relying on being on the offense.  
Cozy Glow is the manipulative sort that… kinda lost her edge lately and has been relegated to a “team leader but not really” role, along with zero magical abilities other than what anyone could pull off.  
Grogar is the necromancer/summoner type relying on a thingamajig for his more powerful magic, standing behind his minions and consolidating his powers.
 
S5 Starlight was a patient schemer type that knew how to manipulate others for her own needs which then turned into a vengeful prodigy after having Frieza’d her magical abilities into overdrive seemingly out of nowhere. It does feels like she’d have been able to fit all of their positives and none of their negatives had her fate been different.
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Because why would anyone who isn’t a masochist not do what feels best, especially when realizing that what does feel best also makes others feel better too. Chrysalis will be reformed and it works perfectly!!! ALL HAIL THE FORMERLY EVIL, GODDESS QUEEN OF PERFECTION AND FRIENDSHIP GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
If this weren’t the last season, I’d want them to remain evil so we can see more of them in the future, but we need them to have a happy and perfect ending of goodness!!!
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Already responded about this. I meant that it’d be like if he’d agreed to work under Hitler and become a Nazi himself, as the villains in the team up have all agreed to be Grogar’s servants. I see no reason that Starlight would want to agree to that.
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Starlight is still very prone to losing her shit when even slightly inconvenienced though, and that’s after character development. Cozy has the same problem, but her breakdowns are generally minor and brief. Starlight becomes highly irrational over people disagreeing with her.
 
I’d say Tirek and Cozy are better schemers too. Starlight’s advantage over them is that she’s not a sociopath, so she’s a little more likable and capable of recruiting genuine allies. At the same time her plans are flimsy, she’s less savvy to being manipulated herself, she’s more concerned with her ego than results (Cozy and Tirek are both capable of pretending to be weaker than they really are) and ultimately, her goals work against her. Starlight wants to be liked and respected, and so is deeply vunerable to the opinions of others. Tirek and Cozy only ever see others as a means to an end.
 
Tirek is still the most competent villain in the series as far as I’m concerned. Discord and the Pony of Shadows (not that he ever did anything) are more powerful, and Cozy is a better schemer, but Tirek combines the best of both with a rather nasty signature power.
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That’s exactly how the saying goes.
 
It is, but you’re forgetting the part where she turned good.
 
If she really embodied the Reign in Hell part then when she saw the Ashland Timeline she would’ve thought “This is fine. Especially if I get I get to be queen.” She didn’t, and if quite happy being equal to/subservient to another.
 
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