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I don’t want to get into something, but I’m pretty sure someone obeying their cutie mark is all psychological. They know it’s their destiny, and they don’t like it. Could they change it? Maybe, but that would just be a part of their destiny, deciding to change. In a society where one learns their role in life young, even if it’s a role they don’t want to take, it’s something they live with because society expects them to.
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Yeah, and they suck at them because they got a cutie mark in something that they aren’t really good at and aren’t destined to do. Yet they find no interest in anything else.

The reason the CMCs haven’t gotten their marks is because because they’re forcing something that is supposed to be something you discover by yourself.
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’Xactly, the interest follows the obtaining of a cutie mark, not the other way around.
And yeah, it’s something that’s supposed to occur naturally, yet the CMC’s thinking is probably much the same: "Significant interest causes cutie mark," which is backwards.
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Sometime, cutie mark are related to the thing they love the most rather than their destined work as long as it is a lifelong passion so it could support the idea of interest cutie mark. For them, the cutie mark don’t imply a role in the society, so they are free to choose a place that suit them despite it not being cutie mark related to them and society are used to this. Based on them, I would say that even the ponies with a work related cutie mark could still do a second or third choice’s occupation unrelated to their cutie marks without looking abnormal.

I expect Cadance cutie mark and magical mystery cure arguments against it so I’ll answer now. You have to think that they wanted to make Cadance looks really special, so they give her a crystal empire cutie mark with no apparent reasons before its appearance, she most have though the heart shape meant love before and magical mystery cure featured a spell that was probably more of a life swapping spell than just a cutie mark changing ones or they would have immediately notice the problem.

The cmc are probably right when they think interests cause cutie mark, as hindted in cutie mark chronicles where the mane 6 were all already passionate for the cutie mark they got or got it instantly when finding their passions. When they try everything, they discover their lack of interest for them, not only their lack of talents and they’ll surely be interested by an activity they are inherently good at, so their interest will ultimately match their innate talents.
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Cadence is King Sombra’s daughter that was transported to the future when the Crystal Empire disappeared.
Also, Sombra used the Elder Scrolls to move the Crystal Empire 1000 years into the future.
In short, my headcanon suggests that the Crystal Empire never disappeared in time, but just had time travel.
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Tell that to the writers. Magical Mystery Cure anyone?

That kind of proves my point. The cutie marks there were artificial, and therefore were unrelated to the capabilities and personalities of the ponies. The swapped ponies were all failing badly at their new lives, and were only trying that because of the spell altering their minds. The point of the episode was that following a destiny that was forced upon you is wrong.

The other episode with artificial cutie marks, Cutie Pox did have Apple Bloom get the talents with them, but she didn’t actually get an interest in any of those things. Rather, she was compelled to perform her new talent. Compare that to natural cutie marks, where they only reflect abilities and interests that existed beforehand, and don’t force them to do anything.

We’ve seen the mane six get jobs unrelated to their cutie marks/talents/whatever. They all got a job on Cherry Jubilee’s farm without a problem. There are lots of ponies that don’t seem to have clearly defined cutie marks or talents that directly relate to a job, and they still find work. Plenty of ponies have changed jobs.

I don’t know where the idea that ponies can only get jobs because of a picture on their butt came from, but it isn’t supported by the show.


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They only get a given cutie mark because it reflects their interests and personality. They want to take jobs that they like. They take jobs that are related to their cutie marks because their cutie marks are emblematic of what they are interested in.

The ponies decide what form their cutie mark takes. It is a reflection of them. A natural cutie mark exerts no control over them because it is only a symbol of what is already inside them.

Incidentally, I’ve always thought that Cutie Mark Failure Insanity Syndrome was supposed to be a joke. It’s basically the most complicated way to explain something, especially since known cutie marks/talents are rarely directly related to the cause of a breakdown. I’ve never seen any even vaguely compelling reason to think that it’s a reflection of pony psychology.
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Sometime, cutie mark are related to the thing they love the most rather than their destined work as long as it is a lifelong passion so it could support the idea of interest cutie mark.

Sometimes? Every cutie mark story we’ve seen showed that they got it for their passion rather than a job.

If there’s been a point where anyone was given a job because of their butt picture, then I must have missed it. Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie’s marks are both completely unrelated to their actual jobs, so that’s a pretty big proof that employers don’t care what the picture is as long as they can do the job.

Even Cadance’s cute mark seems more related to her ability to spread love than anything else.
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Cutie Marks usually is a rough display of a pony’s prominent or primary talent. But nothing is stopping them from holding multiple expertise.
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Yes. Applejack is good at lots of things that aren’t related to apples, even if she isn’t the best at them. Come down to it, she isn’t even the best apple farmer on her farm, so the talent that gives a pony their mark isn’t necessarily what they are the best at.

Heck, Pinkie Pie mostly relies on quantity of attempts when getting people to smile rather than actually being able to understand what makes people smile, but is good at building machines and distressing people with Looney Tunes antics, so her cutie mark doesn’t seem related to her stronger talents.
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I think there’s more tension between Celestia and Luna than what they show us. They’re close, yeah, but I think there’s still a lot of stuff they need to work through to be as comfortable with each other as they were before NMM’s rise and fall.
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Something that might be worth mentioning in regards to that is that Celestia seems to be the one actually running the country.

Most visibly, Luna was only briefed on the Crystal Empire shortly before Twilight Sparkle, and was called after Shining Armor and Cadance.

Luna has also only appeared at two official functions. While she doesn’t seem to live in Canterlot, her lack of appearances at official events still seems telling.
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Yeah, that makes sense and would give my headcanon some legitimacy in actual canon. Of course the real reason is probably they were lazy about the princesses and just wanted the ’main’ one to be there but still.

It’s also possible that Luna isn’t told about certain subjects due to Celestia still not fully trusting her.
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My own personal crazy headcanon for Luna is that she’s still paid on the villain scale and so can’t make casual visits like minor characters without breaking the bank.
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When Nightmare Moon fell, her spirit was reborn in the Equestria Girl’s world long before Twilight showed up. Still possessing some magic due to being a god-like figure, she quickly learned the ropes of the new world and wormed her way up into a seat of corporate power. Eventually she sired Sunset Shimmer and groomed her to go into the other world, so Nightmare could eventually conquer Equestria and the Equestria Girl’s world.
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Prolly has 1000 years of appropriate protocol and ’voice coaching’ to take.
Especially with the ultra-sensitive ears of the diamond dogs.
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King Sombra was actually a World Eaters Devourer that remained loyal to the Emperor and somehow survived The Dropsite Massacre on Isstvan V but, through the trickery of Tzeentch he was cast to Equestria and was transformed to a pony and had all remnants of his past erased, thus explaining why nobody knows of his past and the lack of historical records about him.
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Somewhere in the distant past I read a crazy story about Spike. When he lived in Canterlot, whenever Twilight was in school, he was looked after by a foalsitter that beat him like a rug.
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Manehattan has the largest non-pony population in Equestria.

Griffons tend toward port cities and have their claws in the fishing industry because most ponies are uncomfortable catching and gutting fish for pet food, while griffons don’t have any such compunction, and the ability to have fresh meat is appealing for most griffons.
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I think it is somewhat confirmed that East Asians are ponies, just like the Equestrian ponies.

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And Kimono from MLP G3.
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I’m pretty sure we don’t have a one-to-one equivalence for species and nations. We have a French griffon.
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