Is "Just Ignore/Filter it!" really a good response?

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Not sure if it’s quite the proper category to put it in, but whatever.  
Upon seeing this : https://derpibooru.org/1109282 and it’s comments, I started thinking about it.
 
I’m sure we’ve all heard of it at least once, “Don’t like X, just filter it!” But looking deeper into the subject, is that really the proper answer?
 
Think about a similar argument thrown at movie/cartoon critics, “Don’t like it, don’t watch it!” PieGuy has a really good video explaining why the argument is flawed, but back to the point.
 
 
The same logic could be applied to any situation. But does it really fix the problem?
 
Let’s say if I commented on whatever topic, and I got the typical “Don’t like it, just filter it!” reply.  
Now what’s the stop me from simply saying “Don’t like my comment, don’t read it!” I’m using their same logic, and from some if not all of DB’s staff. Simply ignoring it solves the problem, so why bother?
 
Well I guess one response would be along the lines of “Well they have to go out of the way to ignore your comment(s)” but then again. Thinking about it, typing in the filter would take much more effort, which I’ll admit isn’t much, but I digress. It takes more time to type in the filter, than it does to ignore a simple comment.
 
 
Now, I honestly don’t want to sound whiny, I want to create at least some sort of conversation as this is something that I was thinking about for a while.
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It’s kind of different in the case of boorus. If an image doesn’t break any rules, but you still don’t like it, there’s not much you can do but filter it.
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@Zharkaer  
Of course, I was just curious if that’s a good response to someone criticizing the image. Or occasionally the fandom as a whole.
 
But I still do believe that at certain times, for instance where I linked, it’s a bit much. Yes it doesn’t break any of the site rules, but it’s kind of ridiculous to see a page almost filled with minor edits.
 
Either way I do hope most of the replies I receive stay around this level of maturity.  
Probably wont, but I can dream.
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It’s not a good response if someone’s criticizing the quality of an image, but it mostly is if they’re criticizing the content. Unless, you know, it’s something super-offensive or aimed at someone (but that would be against the rules anyway.)
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We have filters for a reason, and this is indeed the correct response because whenever anyone is complaining about an image in such a way that warrants that response, they should be filtering it as they clearly don’t wish to see it.
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While I personally disagree, as the argument is really flawed logically, as I said “Don’t like my comment (criticism of the content), don’t read it!” could always be used as a backfire.
 
I don’t know, I just always found the logic in both of those arguments to be kind of childish. As it’s avoiding criticism of content you like, because it’s content you like.
 
Either way, it’s about 1AM here. So I’m heading to bed, hopefully more will be added when I come back. Goodnight to you both.
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Well, let’s say I just flood and I mean FLOOD the site with images that are simply minor edits of a single image. (As shown in the example above) Would “Well just filter it” really be appropriate? Because if they don’t like seeing said flood, they can just filter it. Right?
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What I mean there is there’s almost certainly going to be people complaining about the fact I just flooded the site with essentially the same image, just with slight changes.
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Alright, so at least there’s a limit. My mistake.
 
While I personally see the argument in question to be very faulty as it can easily be used against the person using it. It’s good to see DB’s staff hasn’t gone complete nutjob.
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it’s not very faulty, at least not because of what it is used for, which are subjective/preferential subject matters related to art that some people can never reciprocate no matter what and simply want the artist to stop drawing “shit they don’t like”.
 
you can say it’s faulty, but I’ll tell you that in most cases, it’s not and there are a great deal of reasons why that is.
 
number 1, artist responded to that critique and said, “I don’t care”, or something along those lines, rendering whatever criticism there may have been null.  
number 2, the image in question contains things the artist wanted to draw, it’s not your business what they should draw.  
number 3, certain ways of drawing has become clearly both stated and understood as being the way an artist wants to draw.  
number 4, It’s. A Fucking. Fetish. What you’re trying to do is impossible, so stop.  
number 5, lots of people going at each other in the comments section and images of certain kinds posted that you don’t like, but we can’t delete without being Lording over everything? this is why Tags exist. Use it to add filters and we recommend you start with the tag ‘Drama’ and ‘Drama bait’ first and foremost, that’s probably why you’re having a problem right now.
 
now you can present a counterclaim to this if you’d like, but if you’re going to use faulty analogies of two mediums that couldn’t possibly be more different from one another, I’ll suggest you find a different approach, because comparing images to movies and assuming images are the same as movies and thus can be criticized the same as movies, THAT mentality is why we have a problem here in the first place.
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number 2, the image in question contains things the artist wanted to draw, it’s not your business what they should draw.
Obviously not. But that does not necessarily guarantee them a place to display the art either. In an extreme enough case (and I could point to a few generally terrifying overreactions to Princess Flurry Heart as an example) the right to question the presence of such images should at least be permissible, even if the answer from higher up is going to be to allow it.
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That’s a shit argument.
 
>95% of complaints about an image that get a “filter it” response are based exclusively on the content type. You can filter off almost all content types with a single mouse click and never be bothered by them again; instead, a lot of people prefer to repeatedly complain about that content type on various images. If you select the Everything filter and whine that you’re seeing things you don’t like, you’re a little bitch.
 
This is an imageboard, and it’s one based around a strong search and filtering system. If you’re not using the filtering system and taking (or rather expressing) offense or discontent at the content you could be filtering, you’re no better than the sort of knuckle-dragging slack-jawed retrograde that would go to an MLP fansite and complain that poinies are lame.
 
That’s the end of it. Sorry that your right to bitch about stuff you don’t like is rendered null by the very purpose of this site. If you don’t like it, I suggest you edit your hosts file and filter the site out.
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I suppose there’s not much you can do to stuff like what you linked besides temporarily filtering necessary tags, but if you have no problem with the actual tags themselves that’s not really a good long-term solution.  
I think the general consensus here for that would be “deal with it”.
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It is.
 
You don’t like ship X, hide it instead of complaining about it in images containing ship X. Or even worse, complaining about ship X in images that have ship Y.
 
The same rule applies to anything you don’t like. If there’s a tag for it, hide it. If there’s no tag, see if the complex filters can make it go away. If even that doesn’t work, then you might have a reason to complain about it, as it cannot be hidden.
 
And there’s absolutely no pride in “not filtering anything”. If you don’t filter anything, fine, just don’t fucking complain things you don’t like then.
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Well personally I think the current, pack-like piranha mentality I’ve seen recently (everywhere) in the fandom is what’s really killing it. (Hell, I try avoiding commenting nowadays because of it. I know my opinions are unpopular, and sharing them is a death sentence. No matter how polite I do so.)
 
And the reason I describe it as “Faulty” is because it’s logic could be used against whoever may be using it.
 
Person A : Well I personally dislike [concept] because of [reasons]. [Optionally include actual praise of the artwork in hand.]  
Person B : Well if you don’t like it, you should just filter it and stop bitching!  
Person A : Well if you don’t like my comment, you should just ignore it and stop bitching!
 
The logic of “Just ignore/filter it!” can be backfired directly to the one using it.
 
 
Hell, want something even worse as an example of those images (Similar to number 5 in your examples). I’ve got wee story for ya laddies.
 
About a year ago, there was an image here where the OP posted his personal shipping preferences, nothing more nothing less. (It’s was kind of like a top 10 list. Just with images.)
 
You know what ended up happening? People flipped their shit about his opinions and were saying that “He wasn’t shipping right” (In other words, he didn’t subscribe to every popular ship and actually used alternatives for each one.) So what do you think the admins are going to do with these fucks just bitching and moaning about this individuals preference in fictional characters? Go on a massive comment-deleting spree, right? I mean these blokes are clearly in the wrong, right?
 
NAH FUCK THAT, they deleted the image and said the poor bastard that posted was “Trolling.”
 
 
And that’s one of the more blatant problems I’ve seen recently. As this site ages, it’s practices and mentality (of both users and staff) have become worse and worse. We’re all starting to fit into those boxes that were used to generalize us as terrible people, it’s sad that we’ve become a laughingstock like this…
 
That’s one of the reasons I made this post, trying to explain why I don’t think simply ignoring something fixes the problem. Yes people can whine about stupid shit hell I’m guilty of doing it a couple of times.
 
SuperSuperMario has a great point up there, a lot of times I will complain about the concept of something, but not because I dislike the concept in itself but rather how over-saturated it is, in a “Is this really all we can do?” way. But hey, I’m the one with the unpopular opinion, I’m the one who questions the status-quo. So what do I know? Maybe I’m just an idiot and can’t see the glory of doing the same fucking thing over and over with slight differences in scenarios/characters.
 
Then again maybe I’m going insane, because as my good friend Vaas told me : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n_1zsCVBxw
 
Sorry for the really long reply, I guess it’s best I leave now.
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And the reason I describe it as “Faulty” is because it’s logic could be used against whoever may be using it.
Person A : Well I personally dislike [concept] because of [reasons]. [Optionally include actual praise of the artwork in hand.]
Person B : Well if you don’t like it, you should just filter it and stop bitching!
Person A : Well if you don’t like my comment, you should just ignore it and stop bitching!
The logic of “Just ignore/filter it!” can be backfired directly to the one using it.
 
These aren’t comparable. When there is a system in place that allows a user to easily filter out - and thus remove from their sight - things that they don’t wish to see, it is their responsibility to make use of that system.
 
If you comment to complain about an image that you could be filtering, you should not expect other people to ignore you. The problem arose because you didn’t make use of the facilities available to avoid the situation about which you are complaining. Simply put, the entire exchange is a result of your actions and the posited response is an attempt to shift the blame onto other parties rather than accept responsibility for the outcome: to wit, you are seeing a thing you don’t like because you haven’t made use of the facilities available to avoid seeing those things.
 
The issue of image floods is a separate one and not remotely relevant.
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It’s amusing that you describe the filter option as “childish,” yet you are wasting time here bitching about it ad infinitum in the most childishly whiny manner possible.
 
If you think this fandom is such a laughingstock (that’s your opinion, y’know, not a fact–you don’t seem to know the difference), why don’t you do us all a favor and leave. Maybe, like, go out in the real world, and grow up a little? Or at the very least not preach down to the mods and users like you are better than us. You are definitely not, as anyone can tell from this entitled Tumblr0-esque garbage you are spewing out of your ass.
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“Person A : Well I personally dislike [concept] because of [reasons]. [Optionally include actual praise of the artwork in hand.]  
Person B : Well if you don’t like it, you should just filter it and stop bitching!  
Person A : Well if you don’t like my comment, you should just ignore it and stop bitching!”
 
I (and others) already explained why the comment analogy doesn’t work. Anyway, the you fail to notice there’s a different in intention in your example.
 
Person A is just saying they don’t like something. Nothing constructive is being said; an easily avoidable situation occurred.  
Person B is actually offering advice that helps person A.
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Person A : Well I personally dislike [concept] because of [reasons]. [Optionally include actual praise of the artwork in hand.]
Person B : Well if you don’t like it, you should just filter it and stop bitching!
Person A : Well if you don’t like my comment, you should just ignore it and stop bitching!
 
Buahahahahaa
 
No. It’s almost always  
Person A: This makes me want to puke. Who even likes shit like this?
Person B: We have filters, use them
Person A: WOW, FIRST AMMENDMENT, FREEDOM OF SPEECH BRO, NAZI MODS INCOMING, NO FUN ALLOWED ZONE, LMAO THE FANDOM THESE DAYS FUCKING BRONIES ISWTG
 
And you probably mean this image; it was removed for being yet another useless meta post. Terrible image quality, no artist tags, no context; just some ships and numbers next to them sorted by some complete nobody. You may not have noticed, but we’ve made an effort to cut down on the number of meta garbage in the image gallery, and some rando’s list of nothing is top of the list for that (along with the freaking door memes). People disagreeing with it literally meant nothing. Forums, as you obviously know, exist.
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