Hiding Poll's Closed - Results and Next Steps

@Doctor Lost  
He’s a goo pony on account of all the forms he takes around here. I like to think he licks things to claim them as his own. But this is straying far from the topic of the thread.

@WingbeatPony  
Oop, right you are. For the record, I do find his look and concept interesting

@Background Pony #A441  
she needs to be incredibly shy, along the lines of marble pie

Am i the only one that finds 50-50 on the one question very surprising? Anyway i guess it’s done.

smh at any suggestion of a hide avatar pony that isn’t a ninja
 
@Zeb  
Rather disappointed the move of DVs from thumbnail to the image page itself didn’t push through  
The justification for that line of reasoning seems to be an intent to “punish” downvoters by forcing them to take an extra step to register dislike of an image– or to at least put a minimal effort speedbump in front of them to discourage filthy casuals– but I think that’s flawed way of looking at it which presumes that every downvote is wholly unjustified trashvoting. It doesn’t seem fair to lump people who are downvoting actual factual garbage images in with people who are downvoting for an agenda; sometimes an MS Paint cigar with an obligatory pony cutpasted to it is just a cigar that deserves a downvote, not the subject of an anti-smoking crusade.
 
@Silent Wing  
DERPIBOORU BELONGS TO THE USERS!  
If the users are that determined to have hookers and blackjack, they’re welcome to pay for some server space and go start their own Ponibooru 2.0.
 
@Background Pony #9CFA  
a downvote tells the artist nothing about what’s wrong with their work  
I’m having trouble articulating a non-insulting way to point out the glaring flaw in this position, but I can at least say that as an artist, my personal response to people offering without solicitation to “tell me about what’s wrong with my work” is, nearly 100% of the time, pointing and laughing at them, even if I don’t actually type it out or express it openly. If artists actually want or care about advice/critique of what they put online– especially from anonymous online commenters who aren’t actually artists themselves– they’ll probably tell you; a context-free downvote may not be “helpful” to an artist, but if they weren’t asking for help then it had no real meaning anyway.
 
@SuperSupermario24  
I’m not going to downvote images for being improperly tagged, but I understand people not wanting to be the one to fix them  
You could always PM a mod about it, they tend to take interest when an uploader leaves off the kind of tags that a lot of people filter, especially if that uploader makes a habit of it.

@Vinyl Fluff  
I want to know the artist of that remix so I can learn more about it.

@TexasUberAlles
 
The justification was to deter mass, indiscriminate downvoting from index pages on the same principle as a lock deters casual theft. This is the sort that occurs when a user logs on and downvotes everything on the front page, or opens up a tag and starts downvoting every image under it from each page of the tag.
 
If a user wants to downvote then they will. It just requires an extra step under this model.

@Archonix  
So why was it decided to keep the voting options on index pages if it’s such an obvious invitation to mass downvoting?
 
Personally I feel that voting should only be an option when the user enters the individual images. After all, what exactly is the idea behind being able to vote on a thumbnail? How exactly is it beneficial? Downvoting on them is almost always bad, and I don’t think someone would upvote an image without taking a closer look at it.

@Background Pony #9CFA  
Poll results are informative; what we do will depend on what’s possible without breaking other systems or wasting too much time in unnecessary refactoring or implementation. Effort currently is on adding more mod tools and refining existing ones to help deal with problems everyone believes don’t exist or are easily taken care of.

@Background Pony #9CFA  

@The Smiling Pony  
You guys have a lot of problems with the site? I haven’t noticed anything really break for years, so that’s actually kinda surprising.

I’d dissent her hugbox.

@Silent Wing  
“Problems” can refer to more than just technical issues.

@Joey  
True.
 
I don’t plan on being one of them any more.

@The Smiling Pony  
TSP, how many years has it been since this was suggested? just answer me this honestly, because it feels like it’s been over 2 at the very least, if not more.

@Silent Wing  
I don’t plan on being one of them  
pretty sure that bird has flown the coop

@toxicitzi  
It’s been a couple but there’s been some strong voices to the contrary within both the staff and user base until the most recent time it was tried as part of actually removing the whole system.
 
@TexasUberAlles  
rekt
 
@dt  
Yo at least post useful things my dude.
 
@Background Pony #9CFA  
The OP contains mostly a list of immediate-term plans based on the survey results. There hasn’t really been any discussion among the dev team or admins yet as to whether or not everything highlighted there is going to work.

@TexasUberAlles  
Are you saying I can’t stop being a problem and just be another user instead of a punching bag for the mods? I feel that’s a little fucked up. I don’t like the mods, but I’m pretty sure there doesn’t have to be conflict, starting with me.
 
I don’t know any other way to take your post without you coming off as an asshole.
 
EDIT: Suppose I should’ve added “any more”. I’ll give you that. That’s an oversight on my part.

@Arcaire  

 
well, that’s that I suppose.. I’ll move on from this and focus on some other things, I see there’s not much going to happen about this and all energy spent caring about any of it is wasted energy.

These results are agreeable.
 
I did misunderstand the summary though. I read points 2 and 9 in the summary as artists receiving a special handicap where they can hide downvote counts being displayed to them, except downvotes on their own images. Upon fine-reading the actual poll questions, I found that this was not the intended meaning.

There isn’t a point in upvoting if there are no downvotes. Glad the community agrees.

Pretty OK results. Not everything was what I voted for (like the artist’s decision on upvote/downvote) but it seems well enough. A bit disappointed but I can live with it.

@Background Pony #7383  

@TexasUberAlles  

 
People with duck badges shouldn’t throw eggs.