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I really have no feelings either way. Just pointing out that many don’t like Sparity.
I’m a fan of Sparity, and unlike everybody else, I don’t see it as ‘freaky’.
Spike’s mature enough.
>best we’re gonna get
You make it sound like we all want to see Sparity be official.
But back here in reality we all know that the episode in question is the best we’re gonna get. Hasbro wouldn’t dare make it something more.
Y u no let this post go!?
I was saying that bubbly personality doesn’t mean they aren’t mature (depending on how you define mature) so the mane 6 can be mature and bubbly. Bubbly personality =/= young or immature.
Thing is, that just shows that estimating age off of persona is unreliable. It merely eliminates evidence as towards the age of the characters.
This is pretty much how I feel, yes. Spike has always struck me as a precocious child, but a child nonetheless.
I wish it were possible to accurately poll the fandom and ask for everyone’s opinion on Spike’s age/maturity, as well as whether the respondent’s feelings about Sparity shipping. I’d just about bet cash money that the majority of the fandom would put Spike’s maturity at 10 ± 2 years, and an overwhelming majority of Sparity-now fans (as opposed to “Sparity when Spike’s older”) would put his age at 16 ± 2 years.
I generally see his behavior as more like an adult than a child. His child-like behavior tends to seem out of character to me. I don’t recall him specifically trying to act older at any point, although there have been occasions where he’s tried to butch it up.
He’s certainly no worse than the others, though.
It’s still complicated what spike should be considered. To me he still acts mostly like a child, even if Twilight treats him like an adult and gives him responsibilities you wouldn’t give a child. When he does act like an adult it’s usually just that, him trying to act like an adult.
I used young adults because I don’t consider 13 a young adult and early 20’s could still be young adult. Just slightly different categorization a of age.
Young adults are teenagers, and vice versa.
Anyway, Spike seems to be treated more like an adult than a child by Equestria. Obviously, his exact age and status can be argued, but he’s closer in status to the Mane Six than he is to the CMC.
Despite all this they act like young adults (exact age obviously unknown) and all evidence support that (age and maturity). What was this discussion even originally about? XD I think it was the mane 6 seem like adults and spike seems like a child (even if he’s older than he looks) therefore if Rarity were actually seducing him (which she isn’t) then it would be rather creepy.
Looking up again what Lauren said I think she was saying she imagines them physically maturing faster (like most non-human animals) but not nearly as fast. (irl horse ~2 years vs human ~13 years) Then she says they have “human brains” so they mature slower than animals meaning more like humans where it can take a quarter of their life before they’re ripe. They like humans must be raised, not just fed and kept alive until they’re physically capable of helping themselves like animals.
She says she wants them to be relatable to younger kids so closely resembling human life would be logical and having childish personalities.
Lauren Faust didn’t say that they were eighteen. She said that they were adults, but had a maturity level between twelve and eighteen. No number age given.
Going by what Lauren said, teenager makes perfect sense as an interpretation. Nothing on screen actually contradicts it, either.
When you’re with a group of friends do you act at all mature most the time?
I act no more or less mature my friends than I do around other people.
In the case of the ponies, we know that Rainbow Dash and Rarity will put on a façade even around their friends, and that the others act the same regardless of company.
I keep saying 18 because that’s around the age we’ve been told they are supposed to represent by Lauren and then using my best guess of time passing to give relative ages and maturity levels.
So you say they mature quickly and are considered adults in equestria, based on good estimates of age they should very mature now.
None of the jobs we’ve seen really require much education, experience or training so that may be why they seem “inexperienced”. Go back in time 100 years and tell me if your average job would be intellectually difficult or require much training by today’s standards. People in those jobs by their standards wouldn’t be inexperienced but by modern standards might be.
Basing maturity on personality is difficult. My college classmates often seem more mature than many adults I meet, especially my mothers best friend who has a very bubbly personality. And this woman is ~50 and has had the maturity to have an incredibly successful career. When you consider the fact we’re seeing their lives in a candid way. If you were in a work environment or were around strangers you probably don’t show your true personality. Since the town is small they could be very familiar and thus “immature acting” around them. When you’re with a group of friends do you act at all mature most the time? Keep in mind these are also young women so likely even more bubbly personalities when candid.
By teenagers “crying” I mean complaining over things that in the grand scheme are unimportant.
they’re not crying over nonesenseical stuff like teenagers.
Debates about whether some of the things that the Manes cry over are worth crying over, since when do teenagers cry over nonsensical things? Teenagers aren’t so immature.
They act more like a bunch of high school kids than adult professionals. This isn’t really an insult, but their outbursts are more reasonable coming from a teenager than someone in their twenties.
Adults that act like the Manes, even Rarity, would be considered quite immature.
And why do you think they’re inexperienced at what they do?
Because they don’t come across as as being terribly experienced? They aren’t complete neophytes, but that’s because they’ve been interesting in their jobs since they were kids, or they aren’t engaged in skilled labor. Applejack oversteps her limits more than once, Rarity is still an unknown newcomer to the world of fashion, and Twilight was kept in an ivory tower until the first episode. Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash rely on natural talent rather than experience or education. Pinkie Pie is given minimal responsibilities in her day job, and her attempts to make people smile are still very hit-or-miss.
None of them, not even Applejack, come across as having had years of experience.
I don’t know about you but a 25 year old military leader is not something that would’ve happened pre-WWII
A twenty-five year old captain is possible now, if not likely. O-3 needs about three and a half years in service. Assuming that they got their degree quickly, very possible. Back when educational standards were lower, even more possible.
Given that we have no idea of whether or not the Equestrian Guard requires separate college or if that’s covered in whatever officer training that they use, Shining Armor being a young officer is a strong possibility. Heck, we don’t even know if he started as a lieutenant or came in as a captain.
You’re forgetting both that Shining was interested in getting into the military since before Twilight had her cutie mark, and the manes have had their jobs for some time. He didn’t get his post overnight. He also has a special skill that almost certainly had a positive effect on his career advancement. You’re also forgetting that we don’t know if Shining was considered an adult or not in that flashback. Also, all the Mane Cast have very strong talents, so they rise quickly.
Well, okay, Pinkie’s true talent seems to be machinery rather than laughter, but other than her…
As for Cadance… She was little known in her first appearance, and she got control of the Crystal Empire because the crystal ponies called her the heir. And going by what we’ve seen of the show, the Empire is now a part of Equestria rather than being independent. We have no idea of whether Cadance has received any training for governing a city.
Why do you keep harping on the number eighteen? I’ve said that the ponies are adults by the standards of Equestria, it’s just that ponies seem to mature quickly. Even if that only extends to having a shorter childhood, it still means that the ponies are considered adults sooner than humans. I think that the ponies are young adults. That’s not really up for debate, but what an adult is in Equestria, that is up for debate.
Considering how surprised she was after he gave her the ruby, I doubt she expected to receive it. Secondly, though I doubt it’s just a “girl” thing, I can understand gazing longingly at something you really like. Sometimes, something is just so cool/cute/pretty that you’re just drawn to it.
Adults can still be highly emotional and inexperienced. Besides, when have they been overly emotional? They have bubbly personalities but they’re not crying over nonesenseical stuff like teenagers. Even Cadance acts like a child sometimes. And why do you think they’re inexperienced at what they do?
Shining Armor and cadence are probably less than 10 years older then the mane 6 (they looked like teens (not adults) when Twilight was a filly, which is more proof the mane 6 aren’t emotional teens) yet one has princess responsibilities (and current twilight) and one is the captain of the royal guard. Now if we say mane 6 are ~18 and Shining and Cadance are ~7 years older, that would mean they’re around 25. I don’t know about you but a 25 year old military leader is not something that would’ve happened pre-WWII, if at 25 they’re capable of that then at 18 I think they’re still fully mature. Additionally Twilight now has princess responsibilities, which is probably not limited to running a city, so Celestia must think she is fully emotionally ready.
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“It’s a love between an older woman and a younger man. Just because two people are different ages doesn’t mean they can’t love each other.” Exactly the same kind of shit that gets foalcon artists banned from tumblr. But it’s okay if it’s Sparity. Fucking hypocrites.
Leader? She does the job by herself in all but two episodes, and both seemed to be special circumstances.
And since when has Ponyville been a tough spot to manage? Even if The Everfree has it’s own weather, that’s never been shown to impinge on Ponyville. On the whole, Ponyville has been treated as an unimportant, unremarkable post.
Aside from Winter Wrap Up, Rainbow had to ask the pegasi of the town to pitch in to send water to Cloudsdale, and there was a time that Ponyville fell behind on weather and needed a big storm to make up for things. The rest of the time, she has been both treated as and shown to be the only weather pony in town. She has never been shown nor implied to manage a team on a regular basis, and Ponyville’s status as podunk speck on the map would preclude the place being an important post. Rainbow just plain doesn’t need help managing weather on a normal basis.
Asking a kid to deal with Nowheresville instead of hiring a full team seems completely reasonable.
By the way, where are you getting the “over a hundred” number from? There might have been more than a hundred pegasus ponies sending water to Cloudsdale, but those were mostly townsponies rather than actual weather ponies. The emergency thunderstorm team was only a handful of ponies, and they don’t seem to be regular employees.