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My Little Pony 'n Friends: S1 E25 — Sweet Stuff and the Treasure Hunt

Sweet Stuff sings a song about being happy to be who and what we are: Spike the not-a-pony included.

Sweet Stuff: "Why get depressed, cause you're different from the rest?"
Chorus: "Be glad you are who you are!"

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Rotul7
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

G1: Spike you must be happy with you are. Dragon or Pony


G4: Spike you're a credit to your species. Not like those brutes. Have fun with that identity crisis, and noble dragon thing of yours.

One of my main problems with G4 is that Spike, whose episodes have great potential, then the writers just fall flat for I don't know what reason.
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@Sjogre
Spike actually manages to become a good diplomat between the ice orcs and lava demons, creatures that are used to being enemies. He also helps the selfish narcissitic Princess Ponies to learn to be more humble and work together in the same four-parter. That was the first story of MLP'n F's season two.

I would be interested in a G1 thread. It'd be easier to keep track of conversations that way.
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk
No, not everyone watching at the same time. I'll post a youtube link, but everyone watches when they have the time. Everyone watches a serial, talks about it until the conversation dries up, and then moves on to the next.

If someone else wants to set up a viewing time, cool, but I've never really been into that sort of thing. I've actually got a habit of writing impressions as I watch, which requires a lot of pausing and rewinding.
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk
I've hear good things about Tales but just never gotten around to watching it. Part of the reason I want to start up a Roundup is to put it on a schedule rather than a vague "whenever."

Well, that and the last Roundup I was participating in was on a board that seems to have died…

Season three of FiM had a theme of the Manes taking on more responsibilities or advancing in her career path. While Spike did technically participate in that, his growth was extremely underwhelming to everyone else.

@Amethyst_Crystal
Over time, G1 Spike ended up in something of a leadership or counselor role. It was actually kind of interesting.

So, any interest in a G1 Roundup? I'll be posting a thread in the forum asking about it later, but I'd like to know if anyone here would participate.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Amethyst_Crystal
Yeah I know I was just saying that it felt like it was created in direct opposition to the other girls' shows that were running into the same problems that the ones in the early 2000s did, nothing but fashion fashion fashion, check out my awsm hat, oh look at those cute boys, yay beach party, etc. Whenever Jem wasn't about 'gram rawk' it tended to go that way too. But there's a lot of glam so it was less noticeable.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Sjogre
Ah. It didn't have any magic battles and such, it was basically set in the 1950s, with ponies, sockhop, burgers&shakes diners, poodle skirts and all, but with 80s hair. But it took those cliches, and those of other then-running girls shows, and put'em in a suplex.
The episode I was mentioning was basically a twist on Grease with the popular girl and the 'baaad ganger/jock' type boy, where they would normally end up a couple at the end, but it 180'd in the last five minutes. Can't remember the title offhand though.


@Amethyst_Crystal
Yeah, I wish they would be a little more obvious about, say, Crystal Empire, being more of a growing moment for Spike and not Twilight. Sure, she learned to let go of her responsibility and delegate it to another, but that other learned he could handle responsibility beyond just stacking books and keeping times, and I was really hoping that it would spark him becoming more like G1 Spike through the rest of the season.
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk
This would be on the forum, so it would be discussion more than art. We'd also be watching, or at least discussing, the show in order, so watching the episodes as they come up is the idea.

I still haven't gotten around to watching Tales, so I guess that a G1 Roundup would be an opportunity for that.

@Trickquestion
Pony Bart Simpson* was kind of a jerk, but that's all that comes to mind. At most, they were quick to confrontation, although I wonder about the ponies that settled Dream Valley…

*Yes, I know her actual name, but I think Bart Simpson every time I hear her talk, so Bart she will remain.
Background Pony #1B9A
@Itsthinking
Where did you get the idea I was saying anything was Spike's fault? The way Twilight and the others have abused him, he should've left long ago. The dragons, at least, accepted him as one of their own, and expected him to be himself and act like a man.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Itsthinking
I couldn't hear anything going on in there because of the sounds of all the HURRDURR RETARD being spilled.

Honestly at this point I would say we should just go off and declare everything she does that isn't HWE non-canon. Wonderbolt Academy wasn't bad, but it didn't really move anyone anywhere. It was more like someone handed her Rainbow Dash and said "You broke it, you fix it." and she writes an episode that's all "HAAHAA SEE SHE'S NOT AN ANGRY ARROGANT CUNT AFTER ALL, RIGHT? I'M FORGIVEN NOW, RIGHT? :,D"


@Sjogre
I would but I haven't completely watched it in awhile, I'd need to binge over turkeyday. Besides, couldn't contribute nothing anyway, I got no arting skillz so I'll just be throwing ships at everybody like frakkin' Whitebeard. I do recall Tales having a really great relationship episode though, where one of the girl ponies wanted a jerkjock as her BBBFF, but instead of hooking up suddenly at the end they realise it won't work and just agree to be friends (the sole cliche being she tempered his jerkiness a leeeetle.)
IMO Tales seemed a bit like FiM in formation, it was directly opposing the Barbies of its day and written to counteract all their tardo conformity/fashion uber alles propaganda, and when girls' toons took another massive decline FiM popped up similarly. Seemed custom-design to counteract the bad messages being sent from other toy companies while still selling the same kind of toys.
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@Sjogre
That's what I liked about them. They were really compassionate and caring but also very able and willing to beat the shit out of you if they have to defend their territory and their loved ones.

Mr. Moochick and Habbit should also be acknowledged too, for providing some of the most useful magic and information in the series for Megan and the ponies for their various quests. Of course, they live in part of Dream Valley too, so they need to stick up for each other.
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@Sjogre
Very importantly though, the show emphasizes that you should give antagonists a chance to stop or make up for what they've done.

There have been a few that were willing to change their ways instead of get their asses handed to them.
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@Sjogre
Thanks for clarifying all that about Sweet Stuff, I think you hit the nail on the head about her characteristics adn the problems she was having during her episode.

@Trickquestion
Well she has threatened monsters and villains with a variety of lethal magical items, and carried out those threats too (same with the ponies).
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Trickquestion
She was talking to a catgirl that was holding a baby pony over a pit. And Megan was perfectly willing to let the catgirl fall to her death if she didn't accept her terms of surrender. Close.

That's not the only episode with diplomacy taking the form of an iron horse pressed to someone's skull.

I haven't watched all the episode recently, but I can't recall any actual anti-violence messages. When someone failed to listen to reason, then mama said knock you out.