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Background Pony #8707
@Background Pony #6705
It seems ridiculous consider Pipsqueak was in Diamond Tiara’s class. Out of any pony, if there was discrimination against pinto/painted horses, wouldn’t Diamond Tiara be the one to say something? It’s not like she’s above it, considering she made fun of Scootaloo’s disability.
Background Pony #6705
@Background Pony #8707
You can read Saby’s comment about horse patterns below.
And yeah, it does feel odd that multicolored coats are now being discriminated. The artist decided to draw a pony with a multicolored coat, slap the word vitiligo on and called it a day. Back then, you’ve had artists making multicolored coated ocs and leave them ambiguous unless they make human versions of them. At least the artist isn’t saying shit like “All multicolored coat ponies should be discriminated!”
I myself want to make a pony oc with a multicolored coat, but now I’m afraid people will think I’m adding my oc vitiligo along with being a POC. Apparently in the comic issue that Viollete first appears in she’s a possible descendant of an ancient race of ponies called “Paint ponies” and it’s said they were hidden because of how different they looked. Does this make Pipsqueak a descendant of them too? Why wasn’t he discriminated for his coat pattern? Does that imply he has vitiligo too? Do all paint ponies have vitiligo and that’s why they hid themselves because they wanted to avoid being bullied?
Honestly makes me happy that Violette is confined in the comics. If she appeared in other animated media like MYM and TYT, then the media would try to twist it and the awareness of a pony having POC associated with them would spread like wildfire and cause endless firey debates. Unfortunately, she has been hinted in being in other media, so it’s possible this scenario could happen. Sure representation matters, but it comes at a cost if not done right.
Background Pony #8707
Literally how is she being discriminated against? Because she has a multicolored coat?
Doesn’t every pony in the show have coat markings of some kind??
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@saby
was there even much of a meltdown though? it just seemed like snarky BPs and the usual duck-spects being snarky over something that doesn’t personally affect them as per the usual
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I even forgot to add another addendum that freeze-branding works via a similar mechanism to
damage to the skin can temporarily disrupt or permanently destroy pigment production in the skin, creating white scars
I’ll still need my textbooks for reference photos, though.
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@saby
Which tag should I use to indicate that this image has valuable reference information in the comments? I added essay in the comments, but no one else had previously used the tag.
Your summary will save me hours of re-reading the horse textbooks I obsessively collect if I can remember how to find it.
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For the sake of general education, I have some “uhm actually’s” and assorted other points.
Because the nomenclature of horse colours is a frickin nightmare.
Leucism is a condition that prevents pigment cell precursors from migrating fully. This results in areas of skin that completely lack pigment cells, being white (and looking pink due to the blood underneath). The hair that grows from this skin is also white. The pattern is present from birth and does not change. Leucism would be a great top level term, if not for the fact that…
Since time immemorial, horsey people have been so darn picky about their horse colours! So they’ve always drawn a fairly arbitrary line between what white markings are “ordinary” and “small” enough to not disqualify a horse as “solid” coloured.
That arbitrary line tends to go from the poll and eye to the chin and across the knee and hock joints (or the elbow and stifle joints).
  • pinto is the most common AmE term for these wider leucistic patterns (from the Spanish word for “painted”)
  • BrE equivalents would be pied (from resemblance to the magpie bird), and its derivates piebald (pied black) and skewbald (any other pied colour)
  • spotted is used for leucistic patterns but only in the US (as in Spotted Saddle Horse). In GB it means Leopard Complex patterned (as in British Spotted Pony).
  • coloured is sometimes also used in this way, which makes me absurdly crave murder (e.g. Coloured Horse And Pony Society of UK)
  • blagdon is a special, special term that’s used for Irish/Gypsy/Coloured/Tinker Cob/Vanner/Horse those majesticc thicc manetasticc bois, that are not “normal” pied (Tobiano) but also not “solid” (having white markings limited to the face and the lower legs) – having extra tall stockings, white belly spots, plenty of intermixed white hair on the body, that sort of thing
  • the Paint, or more properly the Paint Horse is a cattle horse breed that is expected to have a leucistic pinto/pied pattern – “paint” is often (but incorrectly) used synonymously to “pinto”
  • Tobiano is the name of probably the most common specific leucistic pattern with its unique look. It’s usually obviously pinto/pied and rarely suppressed enough to look solid.
  • overo is a colloquial catch-all term for all pinto patterns other than Tobiano. It’s also used as the shorthand name for the specific non-Tobiano pattern more commonly known as Frame Overo (for how the pattern usually looks like) or Lethal White Overo (for the fact the mutation that produces the pattern, when inherited from both parents, makes all-white foals with terminally borked intestines)
  • other distinct types of non-tobiano-leucistic-spotting are Splashed White, Sabino, and Dominant White (although the distinction between the latter two is arbitrary, and not nearly all “Dominant White” mutations act dominant or produce all-white coats…)
And of course we also have the fun, fun, caveat that all equine leucism is not “ordinary white markings” or “pinto/pied”!
  • Appaloosa is a breed of horse that is expected to show a Leopard Complex coat pattern. Some of these patterns are leucistic, others not. The breed’s name comes from the name of a river in the region where the Niimíipuu tribe, original breeders of these horses, lived
  • Because the Leopard Complex patterns are, well, complex, and went out of fashion for centuries in Europe, there is no well established English name for them. Hence, “appaloosa” is also used particularly in the US as a generic name for the colouration the Appaloosa breed is known for.
Random non leucistic notes:
Gray/grey horses are born with pigmented skin and coat (if not leucistic), and as they grow up and age the pigment cells gradually “burn out” and cease to produce pigment all over the body. Usually this happens to hair follicles only, making the coat increasingly grey and ultimately white over time, but it’s not uncommon that skin pigment cells also run out of juice, making the skin increasingly speckled with pink.
And finally, equine vitiligo is a pigmentation disorder like greying, but results from separate causes, and acts differently. It creates gradually expanding, irregular white unpigmented spots. These resemble leucistic spots, but are not present from birth, and are caused by progressive destruction of pigment cells present in the skin, not by impeded pigment cell precursor migration. Vitiligo spots are also typically much smaller than leucistic patrtern spots.
Buuuuuut it wouldn’t be horse colours if there wasn’t more “howevers”! Sunburns, fungal infections, chafing from ill-fitting equipment and other damage to the skin can temporarily disrupt or permanently destroy pigment production in the skin, creating white scars that can be confused with vitiligo and whatnot.
And so far unknown but evidently existing suppressor mutations can make a gray horse lose pigment so unevenly that it can get mixed with leucistic patterns, Leopard Complex patterns, and even vitiligo.
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@LoreJuniper I strongly agree with you
Stories about individuals coming to terms with an insecurity and finding out that it makes them special is a story as old as time. It doesn’t make it any different that it’s about vitiligo. it’s been in the media for ages, people are just being more direct now and it’s great.
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@LoreJuniper
Neat! One of the best qualities of G5’s move to the third dimension is that it’s seemingly made it easier to give ponies unique models. FiM, for the longest time, limited the visual distinctions between most ponies to their manes. It wasn’t until well into the series’ run that we got ponies with blazes and socks. G5 wanted to show off blazes, socks, and fetlock feathering ASAP and gave them to its core cast.
@TheQuietMan
You may know this, but for the benefit of other readers:
  • Tobano, Overo, Appaloosa, Pinto, Paint, etc… are all patterns of never-pigmented skin under white hairs.
  • Gray horses look white, but their skin remains pigmented. Think of a human with grey hair.
  • Vitiligo in ponies is both over time, like graying out, and is a depigmentation of the underlying skin.
I typed this from memory, so I hope I don’t need to go pull out one of my equine genetics books for reference. I am the human equivalent of an LLM at times.
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