@Background Pony #E452  
That’s irrelevant. I said their action is driven by right understanding, not necessarily sanctionable, much less logically sound.

@Andyxdr  
And how does that stop the possibility of a tragic backstory?

Called it.

I see the confusion in the Deviantart comments there. So im going to say this.
 
Theres a huge difference between “(some) ponies can be bad too” and “ALL ponies are BAD”. I’ll let you all think before it’s going to form an unfortunate implications out of this.

@Background Pony #8A40  
True, but still, Chrysalis was never meant to be sympathized with either in the show or the comics.

@Andyxdr  
Only if you consider the comics to be canon, which I personally do not.

@GrimChariot
 
@Background Pony #D789
 
@Starswirl
 
Well, yes, ponies used to be bigoted, but the Fiendship is Magic comics made it clear that Chrysalis has been evil since her life began.

@Starswirl  
In what way does this story say that the ponies of the modern day are in any way at fault for what Chrysalis did? This happened presumably hundreds of years before the show and serves as an origin story rather then a justification. I do not see any problems with giving Chrysalis a tragic past to explain why she would end up the way that she did as it is a possibility as far as we know.

@Starswirl  
By that logic no one should make Chrysalis feel bad because she’s been stoned.
 
Both parties aren’t innocent, and acting like theres not blame on both sides because one got it worse in retalliation is hilariously close to the way schools handle things.
 
Which is to say poorly, and often hurting the person they’ve ignored or scapegoated to preserve an image that’s not reflective of reality.

DMs, don’t let your parties become murder hobos.
 
Hope these guys died horribly.

If it makes anyone feel a bit less disappointed. They aren’t evil, but they think they are doing good in a wrong way. I’ve seen the DC Universe, I’ve seen Hitman, I’ve seen Deadpool, and we can all agree we shouldn’t do these to do good at all. But why we do it? We think it’s necessary, we have no choice or we can’t think of any better alternative that’s effective. Think Albert Wesker or even any hotd/re antagonist who’s deluded in thinking they are doing good by doing the extreme for something that was probably never a problem at all. Grogar’s probably dead, but not his legacy, which is why they’re still scared.

@Background Pony #D789  
I’ll come back to say you were right once the story makes it clear the ponies do not need to feel guilty over what happened, instead of, you know, them blaming themselves and nopony pointing out that they should not, which is what I strongly suspect is going to be the case.

Actually….here’s the thing. Im not really against story that depicts Chrysalis in better light.
 
My idea for the story is that the some group of pony supermacists kidnaps several Chrysalis “Children” since small. Then teach and convince them about “pony above all” stuff. Then after like years go by, the kidnapped children, now adult, comes back to the hive, only for them to ransack it and stole whatever the hive has for that Pony Group benefit. Chrysalis, seeing some of her “children” ended up turning against her; fueled with anger, revenge, and paranoia; declare war to ALL ponies, period.
 
Thats my headcanon though. And hopefully more grounded to what’s happening to the real world, with the “eye for an eye makes the whole world blind” kind of lesson.

@Background Pony #7138  
Understand pretty well?  
“You are doing something our former emperor would do. He was evil. You are evil and need to be exterminated”  
I like the syllogism, very sound.

@Sanagi 蛹  
Νο. But it does create trauma.

@Starswirl  

 
Why would she be the villain in the story that tells how she became a villain? And when does the comic say that this justifies her actions against innocent ponies hundreds of years later? The fact of the matter is that ponies did start off as fearful and paranoid of creatures they don’t understand. Just look at Zecora. Having them be this paranoid a long time ago wouldn’t surprise me.
 
I don’t see what’s everyone’s problem with this. This is as good of a reason as any for Chrysalis to end up the way she did.

Huh, so it was an explosion spell after all. The dialogue from these characters is noticeably strange, I think suggesting that the hypothesis that these memories are being warped by the ones remembering them is indeed accurate. This probably is not what really happened, just how Chrysalis has retroactively chosen to remember it in order to justify her hatred. There’s a kernel of truth to it- early pony society was canonically extremely bigoted- but it’s very likely the actual events were more complicated than is being portrayed here.
 
Remember: everyone is the hero of their own story

@Background Pony #A515  

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Like me entering a village in minecraft

@Background Pony #E452  
They seem to understand pretty well.

Evil ponies strike first because they don’t understand non-pony.  
Of course.

@GrimChariot  
So you are saying that canon FiM having dumb moments justify everything based on it to be even worse?
 
In the end i may sound like i really care for this story.  
Truth is i really dont care that much. Im just disappointed in it.  
It had potential to show some (fan) version of events or lives that lead those 3 characters to become villains.  
From all 3 so far only Cozy made me feel like it “could happen that way” and made me think.  
Tirek part feel quite forced. Like the story wanted to REALLY make his relationship with his father “bad” with as little effort as possible. So it made his father a shallow trope with caricature shell of personality that totally dont fit a King.
 
But Chrysalis part is just… there is nothing good about it.  
I dont even want to point out problems with it. There are just to many of them.  
Only thing i enjoyed of her was how sweet and innocent she and the drones were. But it was innocence to the point of stupidity.

@Background Pony #C5E9
 
@Background Pony #C5E9  

 
My first thought was Sombra

@Background Pony #D4ED  
I’m sorry, canon material has ponies risking the entire world on prophecy without providing the chosen ones with any idea of what they’re up against, routinely making decisions that would absolutely bankrupt Equestria on the global scale due to their flagrant disregard for everyones lives, deciding a wedding is more important then the safety of their capital, risking an entire ancient civilization as a lesson on relying on others, and ignoring massive threats for thousands of years because if they ignore it long enough surely it’ll go away.
 
Canon material has the characters be brain dead, Chrysalis here is at least shown to be aware an outright war would destroy her people. The fact she trusted three random people from nowhere is egregious, but no more so then Celestia throwing the Crystal Empire under the buss for Twilight despite having literally known about the Heart and the Empire for a thousand odd years and sitting on her flank instead of at least making it and it’s supposed importance common historical knowledge.
 
@WyrmSpawN  
Exactly. I love the show, it has a place in my memory and heart.
 
Doesn’t mean I can’t be fed up with fandom trends and aspects of said show that have worn my patience thin.

@Background Pony #D4ED  
There’s only 8.
 
And i don’t have to like everything the show does. Or in this case, doesn’t do.

@GrimChariot  
That’s not it.  
The story make everyone stupid. That’s the problem.
 
Ponies being cruel or evil would be nothing to complain about.  
Making Chrysalis more stupid then 8yo child, the ponies sounding like blind morons, activating the magic explosives while in the middle of the hive(and dont tell me it was smart ‘plan’ so they could kill the survivors or that they couldn’t activate it from outside).  
That is this comic problem.
 
 
@WyrmSpawN  
Oh so original. If you dont like it then what are you doing in this fandom and with account that got 10+ badges?