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nightshroud96
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

@Background Pony #5D3D  
My point still stands.  
Its ultimately Discord that decided the trio’s fates since he made the suggestion and the sisters were too blinded by many issues going on right now to realize the problem.
 
 
@Background Pony #5D3D  
I think its more like its solely on Celestia who put Cozy Glow in Tartarus while Luna just went with it(due to apparently she can’t oppose Celestia’s decisions, her bitter line of “we always do things your way” seems to show there’s a issue that should have been addressed). The main issue that is a problem with Cozy Glow there with Tartarus is pretty much lack of information on WHY Celestia decided to lock her up straight to Tartarus like that without properly explaining if her actions or not truly justified locking her up(which is also another can of worms with how Cozy Glow is a filly, we need to know WHY a filly like her is crazy).  
Lack of information can really screw things up.
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #6ABD  
Wait how did not everyone decide didn’t discord ask to be involved he didn’t threaten them and they certainly decided to put cozy in prison by themselves maybe the princesses just aren’t incorruptible like anyone
Background Pony #5D3D
@nightshroud96  
I Dont think its fair to only put the blame on discord when everypony can make their own choices werent they gonna punish the trio anyway without em to get revenge/ keep EQ safe from them
nightshroud96
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

@Background Pony #5D3D  
Not really, no.  
Discord whispered the idea to the sisters and since they were too blinded by anger(due to many factors such as their last days as rulers ending on crappy notes, looking like failures again, not being included in the final rainbow laser thus salt is added to the wound, other issues etc.) to realize the problem, ultimately its Discord who decided the fates of the trio.
Background Pony #5D3D
But yeh I see both sides and this the last ill probably continue in this commentary it was interesting
Background Pony #5D3D
@nightshroud96  
Everyone decided it to be fair they didn’t have to let discord stone em. If the princesses didn’t want discord to stone them he would have listen and probably would have just pout a Lil bit if worse like screw that tirek TRIED TO KILL FLUTTERSHY!, fluttershy could have hugged him like avatar state and katara, I remember S6 when they decided to let chrysalis go discord was probably pissed but he didn’t go off and try to get back at chrysalis for revenge he was fine with just having his waifu back in his arms
nightshroud96
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

@Background Pony #6ABD  
It would be better if they put the trio in Tartarus if they want to leave it in the air if they reform or not.  
Turning them to stone(especially if its Discord who decided it) is just not exactly right.  
I am pretty sure all the sisters would have done to the trio is probably beat them up and put them in Tartarus and that’s it(if Discord didn’t step in and cause this huge controversy to end up even worse)
Background Pony #6ABD
@Background Pony #5D3D  
Or you know if what the writers said that they MAY be reformed during the timeskip (A reason we don’t see them or mentioned)  
Its also applicable to what I said previously. It shows that they did try to do the right thing and all that was a time out for the trio.  
Just want to be fair.
Background Pony #6ABD
@CORDZ2000  
The issue is that discord and starlight were also in category of not giving up after everything they also put eq through (starlight almost 5 times if I remember correctly) though she wanted revenge from twilight. And they actually got the right help to better especially discord. Its only fair they get the same help as the other two even if they would have to do like discord (who was somewhat forced too) and even if after that nothing happens then I would not have such a big issue. still I would not like it cause nobody is by birthright evil. but it would seem more reasonable.  
Of course, the other issue that ruined discord for me as character was that he actually had a saying in all of this…  
My issue is morals by those who supposedly represented them for 80% of the show and when actually should put them into use they just braindying without any reason whats so ever…  
Thats my problem and a lot of people in the comments share it. Now if g5 reveals there was some higher plan for all of that to happen and that they didn’t suddenly forgot their preachings and attempt to fix this and be fair to everyone then I would be ok with that.
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #6ABD  
I wasn’t trying justify it just trying to make u understand buddy. @CORDZ2000  
And yeh thats fair I guess i mean even without discord the last time they would have most likely tried to attack EQ again if they escape or if Chrissy wasn’t going coco. Now that I remember when asked by ‘grogar” why they have failed it was a lot of spite there they weren’t like we failed simply because we failed we dont wanna go after them again they aren’t worth it or something so they would have been back either way just probably hella unsuccessfully.
CORDZ2000
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).

Draconequues Lover zcord
@Background Pony #5D3D
 
@Background Pony #6ABD  
I dont feel like enough sympathy is being given to the main cast and what they been through over seasons because of the 3 without any remorse I feel like u get it a bit background pony 5D3D. While revenge was apart of it because of the fact the trio spent all day tryna harm them and have done so before. It wasn’t the whole the reason there cheering when discord says “together forever” is because now there safe, after seasons of them coming back and attacking them, its finally over they can no longer ever hurt anypony else ever again its that cathartic feeling. I dont wanna hear its because they never tried to reform them whatever u can try to use that argument, but even besides that they dont at least refuse to ever give up trying to attack them and there home after losing countless times no matter how kind and forgiving someone is there is a limit remember that.
Background Pony #6ABD
@Background Pony #5D3D  
So thats your justification for hypocrisy? complete demolishing of the core values of the show? Petty revenge and spite for the shake of entertainment? Just because the right thing is less “badass” its worthless? And in the end it was not even that successful it git hated. I don’t care for the reformation you could enact justice and punish both collaborators and benefactors.  
At least show a message decent enough… Thats the problem here. MORALS
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #6ABD  
thing is it wasn’t just about fast reformations people disliked it was also because the level of evil characters would do for stupid or petty reasons and be reformed/easily forgiven later was getting annoyed by fans, people forget because she is so beloved now but starlight was an extremely controversial character when she was first reformed, many cheered when chrysalis slapped starlights hand away. The writers of this cartton pretty much do what they see fans as wanting after some controversy instead of being good writer or goin with what they want 90% of time. Which is why i respect them for the grogar twist and turning the trio to stone even if I wasn’t the biggest fan of it, not because I didn’t feel like logically the trio didn’t do enough to be stoned but more of cause the way they went about it felt more of revenge than to keep EQ safe like it felt ooc for them besides anti hero discord who i expect that behavior from.
Background Pony #6ABD
@Background Pony #5D3D  
I get that but it was injustice if you’re going to forgive the benefactor of the trio (for abuse of power, manipulation, etc.) same leniency should be handled to them its about fairness and moral integrity(we are supposed to be better that’s was the point of 7 seasons before).With what right does he get to decide the outcome? they came off as hypocrites and the whole thing becomes crap total crap.
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #5D3D  
To follow up on this it make sense chaos god uses chaos to teach a lesson but yea maybe u are supposed to hate his actions as the cast did but yur meant to forgive him at the end because he learns from it which is how this show works. Character does something shitty learns a lesson or is forgiven at end its crazy they went this far though but i dont think discord is a bad character for causing chaos cause he kinda is chaos shrugs
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #6ABD  
I mostly hated learning of discords actions in season 9, i get he wanted to help twilight but seriously dude even though “make sense what fun is there in making sense” even then Wtf were u thinking but i do see where Z is coming from. Discord is like Dr doofensmitz but the opposite, Dr. wants to be a villain but sucks at being evil, discord has good intentions most of time or he does seem to want to be good but he sucks at being good. Both can be sad old man but one is a being of chaos the others human so theres that i guess
Background Pony #6ABD
@Background Pony #5D3D  
We don’t disagree that he meant well for his friends (at least me). The problem is the means he used and the way he did it and what he did after overshadow the good he tried to do.  
Its amorality at its finest is unacceptable by even common logic standards.
Background Pony #6ABD
@Background Pony #5D3D  
And like the person said before you.
 
You mean how the trio chained him up after graciously letting him go earlier? Or how he was never punished for his actions beyond a few stern words? Or beyond just him partially fixing the mess that he was in large part responsible for creating? Remember: it was he who got the trio together in secret, he who further encouraged their evil tendencies and he who gave them the location of the item that gave them a fighting chance. It is entirely fair to say that the bad things that happened in the season 9 opening and finale was his fault.
Background Pony #5D3D
@Background Pony #307E  
dont think the Z guy is implying discord made all the right choices hes just saying he did ultimately mean well for his friends, didn’t mean to put them in truly grave danger as he thought everything would be fine cause hes arrogant/super powerful and did risk his life to make up for it makes sense to me even tho still think season 9 sucks.