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KrumpCakes

@Background Pony #85C6  
I see the plague as a necessary evil to keep her and the forsaken alive. The humans used devastating magic to try and annihilate the trolls after provoking a war with them and they would of done the same to the Sylvanas and her kind without a defense. I would say her people and the humans who shunned there family after the undead regained there free will forced her to find allies elsewhere, first with demons then the horde. She has defiantly done bad things but it was for the survival of the forsaken. But I should say I have played forsaken since vanilla so I am probably really biased to the factions problems and methods of survival.
KrumpCakes

@Meanlucario  
Yes that has defiantly been a problem with the earlier expansions. The two newest ones have had a lot of lore building quest and cinematics so it defiantly seems they are putting in more effort to keep people from needing to read the books. The next expansion coming out later this year looks like its going to focus on what she has done/caused, hopefully fleshing out in game what she used to be like and how she got to where she is. I don’t see any sort of redemption ark being possible but I look forward to seeing why she did all the things she did over the current expansion.
Background Pony #85C6
@KrumpCakes  
I mean, the first thing she did when she gained her freedom was to make deals with demons and backstab people who allied with her. That was just WC3:FT. In Vanilla the Forsaken under her command were told to create a new deadlier plague by any means necessary, the Royal Apothecary Society being responsible for any number of terrible acts between Vanilla - WoTLK to her approval. She’s always been super evil and single minded since she got her free will back, she just became cartoonishly evil when her focus changed from getting revenge on Arthas to avoiding death at any cost.
Meanlucario
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

Time to get spooky
@KrumpCakes  
Maybe the problem is Blizzard relying on books instead of making her more likable in the games/cinematics, kind of like if you had to read about how powerful the Death Star was because they never shown it’s power in the movies.
KrumpCakes

@Meanlucario  
She has defiantly done some horrible things and I can agree with people who view her now as a psychopath. It’s just the way the old god Yogg-Saron has influenced or corrupted her isn’t well know since it happened outside the MMO like a lot of her lore. So it seems people think she has always been evil.
Meanlucario
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

Time to get spooky
@KrumpCakes  
I’ve heard that she’s also an idiot psychopath, though they could have been talking about another character. And that’s kind of like using the Star Wars EU to justify flaws in a movie.
KrumpCakes

@Meanlucario  
A good bit of lore is told completely out of game in the forms of books and short stories. So I wouldn’t be surprised if most people completely missed her big turning point when she killed herself between the seconded and third expansion and how she did it.
 
In short she impaled herself on saronite which is the hardened blood of an old god, beings know for corrupting minds.
 
I think the short story did a good job of explaining it in a way the game couldn’t without dedicating a lot of resources to a cinematic or a dialog heavy questline. while I think its unfortunate, people are going to love and hate her for what she is in game a powerful, sexy undead elf.
Meanlucario
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

Time to get spooky
@KrumpCakes  
Maybe it’s a problem of how she’s portrayed in the game and cinematics. I mean, if what people said below is anything to go by, the writers don’t treat her any better than the fandom.
KrumpCakes

@Background Pony #6A77  
I’m not surprised by how she turned out but I do think people who think she has always been evil personified are ignoring a lot of her lore from before her first two deaths.
 
I think characters like Gul’dan, kel’thuzad, or sargeras would fit the title of evil personified much better than her, At least till the cataclysm expansion.
Background Pony #4DDA
man from that stoic expression to the armor design and style is just amazing i expect nothing less from Holivi love your style.
Zincy
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

In Vino Veritas
It’s missing the twirlable mustache, plot armor, and legion of horny fanbois shouting “muh queen” behind her.