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Background Pony #A146
is not right, Rockhoof can't beat Big mac?! He far more powerful! Big mac a never face powerful and he not train to fight, someone who a train to fight are stronger the one who work on a farm, sure he or she can give a challenge but win again a warrior? is make no sens, i will be more ok if big mac a train with rockhoof for years and now strong to surpass his mentor, but this? no!
Red-Supernova
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@nightshroud96
Because Andy Price likes drawing easter eggs made to fuck with us.

@Jacalope
Yeah, but is he willing to actually bridge those comics with Season 10? Because there are so many people who would declare a good chunk of the comics to be non-canon due to the quality of how the characters are written.
nightshroud96

@Incursor
The thing is Luna might have major stress of the job there but clearly still enjoyed her job in the long run.
Having her give that up still doesn't make sense, especially since she didn't get to enjoy whats part of her freaking destiny for much long. If they had her retire because she was tired of her job, the writers would spat on her character and make her look really pathetic there with she couldn't handle her job compared to Celestia there.

The brainwashing is absolutely humiliating, the absorbing part made it much much worse. Either way its still bad.

Its actually FAIR to fault the comics since said comics did some stuff that is even more iffy than what the show had done.
Incursor

I just remembered something, the artist had a habit of referencing his past work. It's like they threw Cosmos in on a whim. So let's not blame the writing for this when it was likely added independently and will have no story impact.

@nightshroud96
A Royal Problem showed Luna neither enjoyed nor was good at the formal responsibilities. So that's something she wouldn't mind.

And about your objection to Cosmos merging them into a new body. How would it be lest objectionable if they just stayed brainwashed?

@Background Pony #D23C
Proof it was widely disliked? Internet as it is a few random people disliking it isn't enough.

@nightshroud96
I agree that's a problem but when has the show handled it better? It's unfair to fault the comics if even the show couldn't get it right.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
That rule of the sisters must be humiliated for the protagonists to shine honestly must be disposed of.
Like really.. its terrible handling of Luna and Celestia but also it got old REALLY fast.
Jacalope
Artist -

Eris best pony
@nightshroud96
is better Cosmos like a present love because… well, the best parts are the past without counting the retcon thing, because if you see the relationship between Cosmos and Discord, Discord feels like S6-S7 Discord instead of S2 Discord, so… why not just put that relationship in the present? and the relationship itself would be interesting to explore Discord's fear to be alone after a long time, a reflection about his relationship with non inmmortal people and maybe make a Baast reference (reintroduced without the time travel thing) to give more background to Discord without destroying S2 Discord.

and i am not mad with "the sisters get absorbed by Cosmos" because every villain humillates them and it's the rule to make the protagonist shine, it's a miracle if the sisters do something.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
Doesn't help that Luna(and Celestia, yes) got terrible sendoffs in the show and as rulers of Equestria due to Discord's iffy plan there. It made the retirement bit worse.

If they "reintroduce" Cosmos, don't freaking use the retcon they did that messed up the sisters' achievement of stopping Discord. And said retcon is not needed due to they literally could have just said Discord dumped Cosmos and locked her away before he arrived in Equestria. And avoid the whole "the sisters get absorbed by Cosmos" crap as well.

Heck, the comics has some interesting stuff like the Umbrum. If they want to use stuff like that then they need to "reintroduce" them. And I am pretty sure stuff like the Deers need it due to their initial debut was.. not well-recieved.
Jacalope
Artist -

Eris best pony
@nightshroud96
Yeah, i cannot understand why Luna must retire instead of be the queen meanwhile Twilight learns how to rule like the princess.

And about better reintroduce Cosmos instead of making Cosmos arc canon in season 10, i can agree it's a good idea reintroduce Princess Eris with more presence and an interesting inferiority complex drama with Discord meanwhile she bets the protagonist powers in a villain casino (and a less complex/pink design to make her more atractive to the fans) and Cosmos like a present love that became toxic and Fluttershy must save Discord from her.
nightshroud96

@Background Pony #D23C
They should have at least say the new crown is like an "adaptor" that lets a strong magic-user like Twilight to "emulate" Luna's or Celestia's magic to raise the moon or sun respectively. That way the sisters literally did not give up their power over them(and thus not practically rendered WEAKER). Still at least let Luna continue raising the moon.

I wished the season 10 comics would touch on the issues of Luna retiring instead of just brushing them aside.
She just got back from the moon and didn't get to rule much long(nowhere near Celestia did), she didn't get to enjoy her destiny for much long(raising the moon and dream-guarding) and she just got her own freaking throne.
And yet she's practically forced to give all that up to Twilight "chosen one" Sparkle because Celestia decided to retire.
There really should be issues from all of this instead of just brushing it aside..
Luna really got the short end of the stick here.
Background Pony #D23C
@nightshroud96
@Background Pony #D23C
Problem is apparently the sisters gave up their actual powers of the sun/moon to Twilight for some dumb reason.
Even though its part of their freaking destinies/Cutie Marks.

This is a big problem. If Twilight only uses the amulet and thus does not raise the sun with her own powers beyond as a demonstration (Discord can be in on this, "she raises the sun once and now every pony thinks she`s special"), this can be accepted — and hope it will bli canon. If the royal sisters are in control of the celestial bodies only indirectly, it is okay enough for itself.

I think the story in the free comic was not well received by the readers, so it must thus be diluted for the future. It was not smart of the script writers. It's time to have rules for the continuation of Season 10 and subsequent works based on G4.
Jacalope
Artist -

Eris best pony
@Red-Supernova
I don't think it's the last one because well, it's writen by Jeremy Whitley, a writer that has been in the previous issues (but it's kinda interesting if he will make a reference to Princess Eris (his creation) because Capper and Discord will be in the same place…)
nightshroud96

@Background Pony #D23C
Problem is apparently the sisters gave up their actual powers of the sun/moon to Twilight for some dumb reason.
Even though its part of their freaking destinies/Cutie Marks.
And Luna didn't get to enjoy hers for much long compared to Celestia's case of raising the sun.
Hell.. Celestia raised the moon longer than Luna did.
Its just really isn't fair for Luna there more ways than one.
nightshroud96

@Red-Supernova
I am hoping the latter part is really true.
But then again why would Discord have those pics in the first place if Cosmos got "retconed".
Urk.. I really wished they never even thought up of Cosmos and that "retcon" the arc had done.
Background Pony #D23C
There's something in it. Discord wanted not only to forget Cosmos (which is on the moon to the great annoyance of Luna), but also everyone around her — and this is symbolized by cutting her out of the pictures.

But now we know that the royal sisters are not "retired", thanks to Rockhoof who hailed Twilight as "the crown princess" — it meant that Celestia and Luna have not lost their titles as princesses related to their nature as alicorns. They have just given up power, and as both the TV series and the comics were into, they had grown tired of acting as reigning princesses. Something tells me that Twilight's complacency as the crown princess will have a painful death later in Season 10 …

If Season 10 is to survive, there should be canon / continuity for the future releases, also when the stories are to be prepared by having a background one can rely on.
Red-Supernova
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Reading the comments below, I believe Discord cutting out Cosmos from his photos is a double meaning. He wants to forget everything about her and how these comics might be shutting off the continuity that are exclusive to the comics.
Incursor

@nightshroud96
In-work, I agree it makes no sense he keep them this long and it's another reason not to take the canon/continuity seriously.

Out-of-work, it's for the benefit of those who did like the arc, or at least parts.
nightshroud96

@Incursor
Still the fact it felt like it turned about to be a lie in a way with Discord altering there memories like that still felt like it messed something up.

The fact still remains even if it was a gag one, because then why would Discord even have those pictures and why would he be cutting them at all in the first place. Even if Discord doesn't make sense, its still weird even for him on why was he doing that.
Incursor

@nightshroud96
They still defeated Cosmos with the Elements, that's an accomplishment. And their defeating Discord remains intact an unaltered. Is the problem that Discord not being a big a threat as assumed undermine the significants of defeating him?

And acknowledging continuity isn't the same as following it. It the arc were referenced in a plot critical way then I can see how it would prohibit newcomers, this is just a gag one wouldn't even notice unless they knew what to look for. We wouldn't be complying if we liked the continuity being referenced.

Good point about the armor, though.

@Penguin Dragneel
Exactly. MLP is about characters. It became successful long before it had serious continuity and lore. Maud Pie broke continuity by being retconned in but was immediately well received because of her character. This is a show that aways put characters before continuity.
Jacalope
Artist -

Eris best pony
@nightshroud96
see? that's why i prefer keeping with comic continuity instead of S9 continuity.

That or just a new #1 that starts after season 7 to make a better version of season 8 and 9 with creative freedom.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
I am certainly not going to like it when the season 10 comics keeps reminding me about that dumb retirement stuff the writers made Luna do or the fact Twilight ends up looking "superiors" compared to the Royal Sisters.
Penguin Dragneel
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
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I am Thou, Thou art I
I love how everyone is arguing about the continuity of a show that was originally made to sell toys to 5 year old girls.

Guys, this isn't Avatar. This is My Little Pony. Continuity and lore isn't everything.
Jacalope
Artist -

Eris best pony
@nightshroud96
the problem with the comics is they are tryhard trying to be canon to the show instead of be their own continuity, i know Hasbro has a long story with the comic book media (just look Transformers and GI Joe, even they will take things of Boom! power rangers to their show) but with MLP… they really needs to separe from the show if they don't want to destroy close of 100 issues just because they have misunderstandings with DHX.

And i actually don't want a season 10 comic series because of the mess of season 9 and be limitated with that instead of explore wasted potential stories that we cannot see in the show and… i don't want the comics remind me about the Grogar fiasco because it's very redundant if Tirek fiasco happened to Discord (something that sometimes we see in the comics but nothing in the show).
nightshroud96

@Background Pony #D23C
The season 10 comics should have started "fresh" by ignoring what happened before the season 10 comics and just following only the show's continuality. Since the comic continuality is is shoddy(even worse than the show's from its cases of contradictions) due to how many of its stuff got contradicted by the show.
That memory altering Discord did to the sisters and them being absorbed by Cosmos left a huge.. stain on the sisters there.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
Then again it didn't stop Discord from continuing to cause trouble.
She is unable to stop his spirit form apparently. She is talented(and seems to get stronger if her emotions are high, as in if she's really pissed) but not powerful enough(at least without something like the Elements) to fully stop Discord.