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nightshroud96

@Jacalope
Sadly them not ignoring about Twilight becoming ruler means season 9 can't be ignored at all.
Luna and Celestia got shafted horribly due to the retirement bullshit(especially Luna's case).


@Background Pony #D5F2
No, its still awful what Discord tried to pull.
He tried to use other living beings as disposable pawns and caused trouble. And completely missed the main issue of Twilight's confidence problems. She KNOWS she can kick any villain's ass and protect Equestria, her main issue is the actual princess stuff such as how to run a freaking country.
@Background Pony #D5F2
There are times when you have others do things on your own and there are times you got to freaking help.
Celestia wanted Discord to use his powers to help Equestria and he isn't exactly doing that.

@Background Pony #D5F2
Its still dumb luck Discord happen to get the others out of there. He could have gotten blasted in the head by Tirek(or strangled), in fact the stones of Chrysalis's throne apparently didn't negate Tirek's blast for some reason.
Also, if he was "smart" enough to dupe everyone, why the hell didn't he watch them when they were getting the bell? He didn't even monitor them properly.
Background Pony #D5F2
@Jacalope
@Background Pony #D5F2
That would have been better if Discord wasn't Grogar, a reason why Discord let mane6 defeat Sombra despiste his powers.

Fouthwallcord was being meta asf, twi always learns something when she solves a big challenge
Background Pony #D5F2
@Jacalope
I mean we know he did it because he cares for twilight and wants her to believe in herself like he believes in her, its pretty sweet if u think about it like that
Jacalope
Artist -

Noodles > Everything
@nightshroud96
a very unnatural screw-ups.
Because seriously, If not because Discord actually wanted to break relationships since he has internal conflicts about his immortality, being able to lose his relationships and can do nothing to remedy that situation so just speed up the inevitable end, then… really don't make sense for Discord doing that.

Actually, nothing from S9 have any real justification to exist. Maybe that's why the comics are like "Oh, that happened but we will ignore any detail, we only know Twilight is the queen, nothing else."
Background Pony #D5F2
@nightshroud96
@Background Pony #D5F2
Nope, the fact still remains.
Discord still screwed up and made foolish decisions.

The case with the trio is pretty much the gang lucking out big time.

Even if the trio made mistakes, that doesn't make Discord's screw-ups ok.

Aint no luck discord outsmarted them for months and then without powers with a rock outsmarted them and then there a statue and hes having flutterpussy every night they can hold this L
Background Pony #D5F2
@nightshroud96
@Background Pony #4E26
But not smart enough to realize what the trio is doing.
Yeah..

And neither did Chrissy think to take starlights magic, every character makes smart and dumb decisions discord proved to be better because he got over all of them at the end
nightshroud96

@Lord You Know Who
Which is pretty bad storytelling since now anything can get "retconned" with "their memories are altered".
Which means we can't really trust anything that is shown due to it might be just a false memory thing.

I know people mentioned things got retconned all the time but this whole "memory altering" thing is really bad compared to that. It just messes up trust in what we see since it could just be a fake memory.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
Its not just a simple memory wipe, it messed up one of Luna and Celestia's greatest achievements with it turns out its essentially a lie in a way. And the fact now any lore can't be trusted due to they can easily pull "their memories got altered". Its really bad there.

All season 10 had to do was "ignore" the previous comics and focus only on the show's continuality while "reintroducing" anything the comics had(such as the Deers), kind of like a clean slate for that stuff.
But sadly that doesn't seem like the case there..
Also why I took so long to reply back on this one is due to my nervousness happened, like worried about what the reply would be and such. It happens sometimes..
Your other reply got me finally reply back to you on this one, sorry about taking this long to reply back on that comment there on here.
Jacalope
Artist -

Noodles > Everything
@nightshroud96
you are overreacting with a simple memory erasing, and yeah, it's not like MLP is very clear with their past lore thanks for every ancestral enemy Celestia and Luna must defeat, forcing to retcon everytime the past to make sense the villain at that moment.

And… i really think Season 10 is a mistake for concept, every idea is now limitated for season 9, one of the worst seasons of all, and retcon everything to make it fit to the series, making the comic more inconsistent like if that series isn't raped by DHX changes after they created a concept that after DHX changes radically like Scootaloo's aunts. Just let them to create 12 issues more to get 100 issues and then, reboot the series with someting that isn't a continuation of season 9, it's more something everbody can know without watching the series.

That's why MLP: Manga and Transformers/MLP: Friendship in disguise are better: they ignores continuity in favor of something that always has been the heart of the series, the characters and their potential because what's the point of following DHX's canon if the characters cannot act like how they suppose to be?
Lord You Know Who
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@nightshroud96

I think this is just a tool to handwave inconsistencies.

Cassie looks nothing like the kelpies in Season 10? "Cosmos Arc, everyone misremembered Cassie being a kelpie". Mage Meadowbrook is an female Earth Pony potions master? "Cosmos Arc, everyone misremembered Mage Meadowbrook being a male unicorn". All the pre-Last Crusade references to Scootaloo being an orphan? Cosmos Arc. Maud not showing up in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles"? Cosmos Arc. The Pony of Shadows not matching with what was established in "Castle Mane-ia"? Cosmos Arc. Garble suddenly being established as Ember's brother? Cosmos Arc.

Any inconsistency in MLP's continuity and/or lore can be dismissed with "Their memories are altered, so they didn't remember it right the first time".
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
I really prefer the season 10 comics to not bring up anything from the comics(as in like previous arcs) unless it get "reintroduced". Like introducing the deers in a different event for example.
There are some major "issues" like the Cosmos arc that leaves some sort of stain, it would be better if the season 10 comics "start over" with a clean slate in terms of comics and "reintroduce" certain stuff that could be used in the comics while just erasing certain issues(like Cosmos).
The comics were contradicted a bunch of times due to the show, the season 10 comics literally says its a next season and thus shows what happens next. Thus it should have been following only the show's continuality.
nightshroud96

@Incursor
No, referencing Cosmos AT ALL even in a pic just shows acknowledging that arc happen.
I can't ignore it as a "joke" there, why would Discord literally have pics of Cosmos in the first place? Him being Discord is not a pass.

Heck, another problem with that arc is how any piece of lore can't be trusted due to "Oops, our memory was altered and our achievement/event turns out to be a big fat lie". Like now anything can be "changed" due to memories being altered, damaging the trust in lore.
I really prefer if they put something that greatly contradicts that Cosmos arc. Then I would feel at ease.
But with the stupid memory altering thing Discord pulled and thus Luna and Celestia's achievement turned out to be a lie in a way, meaning we can't trust anything that is shown in lore now due to it can just end up being "our memory of that event was altered".
Background Pony #DAEC
I have no idea who "Cosmos" is, and safe bet that most people who picked up this comic in order to get a proper follow-up to the main show before G4 ends in September 2021, and who (like me) haven't read the comics prior to this, don't know either.
Incursor

@nightshroud96
That's what they are doing by merely limiting Cosmos to a reference as opposed to anything story relevant. You are free to pretend it doesn't exist in this continuity, and take this panel as a joke as opposed to canon which it's fast and loose with anyway.
Jacalope
Artist -

Noodles > Everything
@nightshroud96
And the only thing that I expected to follow from the show would only be a mini-series about the future stage of the final episode just like Regular Show did with their "Regular Show: 25 years later".

And what about "introducing new readers with a season 10 that does not refer to comics" better read the manga that you don't even have to know about the show to enjoy them.

The problem is that comics pretend to be canon when they should not be ashamed of it, they are different fields that propose different ideas and that they could share ideas to complement each other but realizing that they are different media and that it is impossible for all to have the same continuity.

Just look at the Power Rangers whose comics are loved by fans because they follow a different continuity that brought many new elements that cannot be seen in the show such as Drakkon, the Grid and other elements. Even the Psycho Ranger Green that originated in the Boom comics was produced as a figure in Hasbro while the only references to the MLP comics were only armor for Chrysalis, a reference to King Vorak and the Legends of Friendship that quickly downplayed them in season 8.

MLP comics only aspired to be the shadow of the show instead of shining on their own trying to do something that is practically impossible, making it narratively confusing because of things like that from one number to the other Twilight already has wings, Starlight appears and disappears , there is a friendship school, things that are seen in the series but in the comics we have to pretend that they just happened.

When the best thing is to simply detach slightly from the show but respecting the characters to bring different stories that can be the same or more interesting than the show itself. That's what the manga do, it just doesn't take into account the entire continuity of the show, it's just fun with the characters.
nightshroud96

@Jacalope
The whole Cosmos thing is really worse compared to the other shortcomings. Like among the worse(being possessed and absorbed like that is just humiliating. For Luna's case, it spats on her character due to she was already possessed once in the comic continuality, her getting possesses so easily like that here just demeans her character like that).
Especially with that "retcon" thing the arc had done.

They seriously could have just followed only the show's continuality(with whatever concepts from the comics they want to use they could just "reintroduce" them) due to the comics' continuality is just shot with holes due to stuff getting retconned(like Siege Of The Crystal Empire leaving quite a hole due to the show HARD retconned it with Beginning Of The End). Besides, there would be so many new readers who only watched the show and only went to the Season 10 comics to find out what happens between Twilight's Coronation and The Last Problem. They would be so lost and such.
The season 10 comics could have been used as a "clean slate" or something for the comics..
Jacalope
Artist -

Noodles > Everything
@nightshroud96
just because she is just another villain of the large gallery who defeated Luna and Celestia many times at the point the show itself don't take them seriously.

And i wish S9 never happened but not everything is possible in this life…

And S10 was just a branding to get better sales, not a renumering, so obviously they will take the comic continuity and are from the same comic crew that wants to get at least 100 issues and don't want to screw up their continuity even if don't make sense with the show continuity just because IDW and DHX don't have communication, only they have communication with Hasbro.