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Big thanks to everyone who suggested stuff to add to this. I want to hope I won’t need to revise it in the coming days but it’ll be Derpi exclusive until things settle down more. Y’all need to lighten up about this whole mess.
 
Also as an enlightened centrist who only wants to grill and look at ponies, I am legally immune to criticism so I’d better see only sunshine and rainbows in that comments section. 😏
 
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Well-Geboren
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@Communist Starlight  
Why thank you! I’d actually seen a screen shot of this a few days ago, so its good to now have a link to the website.
 
And yes, I know why you gave this to me. I just didn’t mention the far left libtards because, as retards, their just plain stupid. But the far right? nah uh nope. Ever since they had the chance to give the Confederacy a fighting chance, they’ve con’ed their way at every corner.
Well-Geboren
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@DarkObsidian  
Ya know, the US once had a law like your Volksverhetzung, tho not entirely the same. It was a law against baseless claims, and was enforced on the news medias, it basically required that all the facts be double checked before publishing; and it had the side effect of keeping biased opinion out. This law also drew the line between what was “the news”, and the tabloids with their drama infested crap.
 
BUT like many things that can be found to be tied into his short term in office, Ronald Reagan veto’d it; THUS allowing news agency’s like FOX to flourish, and for people like Alex Jones to get away with calling what they do “the news”.
 
And I’d say that this plays a major part in why the US is as it is today, with all this “not news” that was and has been perpetuated by the conservatives here over and over, it’s just no wonder why we’er so culturally different in these aspects.
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@Background Pony #94B3
 
Oh, you can accept anything or nothing whatever you want. You can go outside and say the sky is red and not blue. That doesn’t make your point of view any better or worse now. Just like the question of whether a god or gods or something like that exists or not. It’s all a question, or a point of view of “belief”. Not necessarily a position of the actual legal basis. But as leading psychologists have already said about the corona virus, nothing can stop certain people from questioning their “felt” truth.
 
But it’s always nice when the words in one’s mouth are turned around. When did I ever call myself the “good guy”? Your statement has the same quality value to me as a sack of rice falling down in China right now. This does not bring me or the debate forward, but adds your denialism to the whole. No offense.
 
Well, why not? This is still an open site. ;-)
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@DarkObsidian  
uh huh, so you want the right to purge anyone you find “problematic”, and you think that makes you the good guy. Got it. Saying the same thing with another fifty paragraphs isn’t going to make us agree.
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@Archonix
 
Honestly, I could already conclude with your very first sentence to what you wanted to say. And well, indeed, regardless of how intelligent I am now or not, or whether exaggeration is fun or not, you come from a perfectly valid point to absolute nonsense. No offense.
 
Freedom of expression, precisely freedom of expression, is the guaranteed subjective right to freedom of speech as well as freedom of expression and (public) dissemination of an opinion in word, writing and image as well as all other available means of transmission. Just as it has been intended since the “Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen” in 1789 and the teachings developed since the Reformation on the right to resist tyrants.
 
However, I would like to point out that there are legitimate restrictions on the freedom of expression in German law. These restrictions include, but are not limited to:
 
  • the protection of personal honour against insult or slander  
  • the disclosure of classified information  
  • the limits of morality and the protection of minors  
  • the guarantee of public security  
  • unfair competition by discrediting a competitor’s goods or services  
  • the unauthorized sharing of copyright-protected information
     
    Moreover, depending on the constitutional tradition, there may be significant differences in the state’s restraint from repression: unlike the US, which is quite restrained in this respect, most European countries go much further. In contrast to the US, racial discrimination in Europe is usually punishable even among private individuals. Here in Germany we call something like this Volksverhetzung (in English “incitement of the masses”, “instigation of the people”, “incitement to hatred”). Criminal code (Strafgesetzbuch) Chapter 7 (Offences against public order), Paragraph 130.
     
    On the basis of this, my argument remains valid, because it reflects my opinion that one does not necessarily have to follow the American legal understanding on this side. Especially when the server is on EU ground. I don’t want to impose my opinion on anyone, but for me there are things where you have to draw a line.
     
    This is a perfectly common legal practice. To stand here and complain immediately that this may be interpreted as censorship, this fact is not given to me because we are not discussing dictators or any gods here (okay, for some people ponies are just divine, but we just leave that in the room now), but images that may be subject to suspicion of incitement to hatred. And yes, I can still understand why the administration here wants to protect itself against this. Or rather, the way I interpret the actions so far. Of course, I’m not speaking here for anyone but myself.
     
    Well, maybe some people just want to exercise their right to be an absolute “cunt”. Or, as a user once put it so nicely, wants to fulfill the right to hate. Then these people should be happy to do so, but why here of all the places? On a site dedicated to pastel-coloured ponies and their slogan “friendship is magic”? Maybe I miss the more cynical, socially critical aspect, the supposedly clever joke, or maybe it’s just humor that’s so borderline that hardly anyone can laugh about it anymore. But as is well known, there’s no accounting for taste.
     
    What one can and should argue about, however, is the fact of how far away the opinion of less can influence the opinion of many. You mentioned Hitler. Now imagine what would have happened if Hitler and his henchmen in the Weimar Republic hadn’t just said everything and been allowed to do anything. As if to arm themselves, to fight against their supposed enemies, to discredit them, and then to be elected for this. Ups, sorry. I forgot. This is exactly what is happening right now. Just with a little bit of a different role.
     
    I believe that an irresponsible behaviour of a relatively small part of the fandom contradicts the rest of the community. And I think that this could be essentially applied to a large part of the Western world as such at the moment. I still see this as very problematic. So far, I have not been able to receive any other counter-arguments except ’Merica and alleged censorship. But tyranny is not supported here. Well, probably this is just a cultural difference, because at least in Europe someone like Alex Jones would be thrown into prison immediately.
     
    Okay, I’ve exaggerated myself a lot, and I apologize for that. But sometimes you can’t just accept certain things like that. Or just make yourself comfortable. It is simply too easy to hide behind the cloak of freedom of expression without considering the damage that can be done with it. And I personally don’t want more damage any further. At least not on this site. And that is why I still do not regret the leaving of various artists. Although I think that these artists may have left for the wrong reasons. I hope to be understood in this respect. If not, it doesn’t matter. I had fun writing those lines anyway. ;-)
Well-Geboren
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@Archonix  
Ak-em, for historic reasons, do not refer to the freedom of speech as a “democratic ideal”, instead speak of it as the “True Liberal” ideal that it is.
 
Why is this? weeeell.  
Back in the time of the first US civil war and before then, the democrats were the conservative party, and they were the ones who founded the confederacy. While the republican party, which was the rebooted and renamed whig party, were liberals.
 
Now the whole issue is a confounded mess, so I’v come to not give a poo whether its because republicans started brown’nosing up to rich dicks, or because the dems of then planted and or had a saboteur go in to make them good for more votes. In the end it doesn’t matter, because somewhere between the time of the Korean war and the Reagan presidency(which admittedly was the worst before The Great Orange Cheeto’s), the ideals of both party’s were solidly changed.
 
And so this is why we have libtards who need people like you to come straighten their papers out, and part of why we still have them bucking connies flying the dixie standard(which also explains why we have so many of them bloody twats to the north now).
 
In the end, there are no republican or democratic parties, there’s only the ideals that they live by.
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For the Emperor!
I don’t personally care anymore, the staff has been renewed and things seem to be calming down. They didn’t remove much from what I can tell, so it just appears to be mostly drama.
 
Btw, are we gonna get shut down for talking off topic?
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@DarkObsidian  
At a fundamental level, yes, freedom of expression means the freedom to be an absolute cunt.
 
Set aside, for a moment, the argument about whether or not derpi has the right to limit speech. That’s a distraction from the main argument, and something that should be considered only after the argument has been understood.
 
Restricting freedom of expression based on the idea of offence is a wide open excuse to restrict any speech you can think of, because someone will always be offended by any single thing you might say. That’s how blasphemy laws came to exist: criticism of the prevailing big man in the sky was “offensive” to a bunch of establishment players, so they banned anything that made fun of their beardy-goony cloud-sitting lightning factory, or anything that even skirted close to disagreement with the dogma that surrounded that totem.
 
I get that people will be offended by a lot of things that I, and anyone else, might say, but that’s not a justification to restrict that speech, because ultimately, offence against the prevailing order is how we moved from the dictatorship of god-kings and priests, to the enlightened liberty of the democratic ideal. The price for that is the fact that some people will say naughty words. I’ll take that price gladly, because the alternative is, in the grand scheme, a return to the days of fat old men sitting on the shoulders of the oppressed masses, declaring their offence at anyone who dared to rise above their station, or challenge their self-appointed right to extract wealth and power from the common people.
 
That’s what freedom of expression boils down to: the right to offend the dictator. The right to tell Hitler to fuck off and die. The right to say “leave me alone, you joyless cunt”.
 
The right to draw offensive, sacrilegious, and yes racist art, is sacrosanct, because the alternative is ultimately slavery to self-appointed arbiters of morality, who will not stop until everyone is kissing their dirty jackboots and begging for another turn.
 
Hyperbole is fun. Give it a try some time.
 
e: for the record, this is drunk me. drunk me likes to argue in exteremis. please don’t take this as anything other than an exercise in intellectual masturbation. e2: unless you agree, in which case you are of superior intellect, and may subscribe to my newsletter
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@HumanoSiniestro
 
You need evidence? Who is we and why should you need proof? In my opinion, the administrators and mods on this site should just wipe their asses off with certain opinions. ;-)
 
As much as I like Aryanne as an OC, and my favorites speak for me here, I don’t see her as something of freedom of expression. Unless you see freedom of expression as a means to be an absolute asshole.
 
As much as I value freedom of opinion, as much as I am German, I see some things simply as incitement of the people. And I am also allowed to do so under our German law. Of course, I’m not attacking anyone here personally. I want everyone to believe in what they want. But if some posts and images give the impression that Bronies generally don’t know what’s common sense, then I’m sorry.
 
Certainly not everything here in the last few months has been good and fair. But I personally don’t miss any “artists” here who feel personally attacked because of something like this. I’d rather bite my own ass, than just give a hand-width of free space to those who just want to create a legal-free space for themselves. We are all people with different and free thoughts. But if you feel threatened by something like this, I think you have problems that do not belong here. And then you have to protect this site too.
 
In my opinion the administrators and mods were quite right. The fact that they took a step back was more due to the users. And that this administration definitely appreciates the users. That is at least my personal valid political and general opinion.
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I wonder if they’ll ever come back.
For what I’ve seen, The artists that did nuke their entire gallery were using the drama as a justification to move away from MLP. So I doubt they will come back.
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@runner2  
@HumanoSiniestro
 
Thanks for giving this better explanation. I honestly don’t know much about the whole situation.  
It’s sad that so many artists moved away, I wonder if they’ll ever come back.  
Maybe if the admins change their behavior or if we get new admins alltogether, maybe then they’ll come back.
 
Hopefully the mods will not delete this for saying that XD
HumanoSiniestro

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@runner2  
I don’t use the forums a lot like I think is necessary to do, but people is still angry with all the situation. How you said, you can feel the tension in the air when you came here. The reasons are that the Mods can’t understand the problem of the censorship and how they’re digging their own grave with this kind of measurements. Shadow bans, comments getting erased because the rule #0/4/6, comments locked down in Aryanne images, etcetera. Derpibooru is marching to the ruin, but the ritm right now is slower than before, because apparently, the administrators are trying to be more discret with their modus operandi. You better trust in no one.
 
And which you mentioned is right, the Mods are so stupid to think only a few pics of a fictional character will make think the strange people this is a Pro-Nazi site. But it’s not. And the things were especially harder when they showed support to the BlackLivesMatter movement. The problem was, that the support they choosed to do is to update the terms of service, or something like that. What does that mean? More censorship of course. I was a witness of this wave of censorship, were you couldn’t speak anything about politics or complain in the comments. If you do that, immediate ban for you. I was a victim, if you’re wondering.
 
The Mods justified the erasing of the comments and the bans with the excuse that the mentioned rules before: #0/4/6, but is funny how you could get a ban with that rules broken even if you speak with education and without bad words or insults, or trying to get attached to the theme of the image. The mods said that you should use the forums for that, which was a lie too, because some of them were deleted too. Even in hours, or that’s what I heard. I can’t confirm if the admins are that fast to erase those threads were their dirty secrets were exposed, but if it is true, then I wouldn’t be suprised. Is harder to erase a thread in the forums, but damn, they done it.
 
Recently a lot of artists are getting out of the site, or putting DNP in their arts. If you want a big example of an artist that left the site, we have Shino. Someone remember Shino? He left the site, and curiosly, the last image he uploaded was an indirect answer to the administration and their new politics. Another curiosity, a lot of anonymous users commented he is a true Nazi, obviously in an attempt to stain his image. Some people say that the administrators try to hide their identities using the Anonymous function.
 
The tale is longer, but I wasn’t expecting a comment this long, so I’ll stop right here. All I can say for the end is the administrators refuse to listen to the users and try to push this new censorship.
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@Spitler
 
It started with that article which the mods here hard knee-jerk reacted to by banning the posting of any nazi or other questionable themed group related pictures. Including the OC Aryanne which had been around for years which was a fairly popular character with quite a lot of parody and generally amusing fanart. Not much of that fanart had anything even remotely promoting being a nazi or believing in their ideals or anything…. it was entirely just that character the mods had a problem with for some reason.
 
Some artists initially didn’t care but others did, looking at it like a tipping point for more things getting banned in the future due to mod preferences rather then what the content was. At that point the mods somewhat appealed their ban on nazi stuff if it wasn’t promoting it, which caused a lot of artists (many of which were unheard of ones) to think Derpi was now a pro-nazi site or something silly like that… despite all of those Aryanne pictures having already been on the site for numerous years already. So this lead to a mass exodus of pro- and anti- censorship artists and DNPs filed by them for their works which is why some artists on here don’t have anything under their name anymore.
 
Around this time the rise of alternate booru sites popped up. Furbooru, Ponybooru, Rainbooru, Twibooru, and a few others I believe. Also around this time the mods/management of Derpi was getting out of hand. Shadow bans, bans for no reason, image deletions, and even some mods going rogue or being backstabbed was all going on behind the scenes with some of the normal users suffering for it. Some bans were issued simply because people mentioned the trigger words or names of the alt-boorus. These alt boorus were a place where you could go to be free of the current mod chaos and free of restrictions since they don’t have anything you can’t post (within normal legal limits of course) so a few people migrated there.
 
I’m currently only here and on Ponybooru myself and they do have more images there then on here because of the lack of restrictions such as the nazi stuff is allowed there and even underaged anthro stuff is as well. They are simply a storage site for MLP art without restrictions. As long as it’s MLP, then it’s allowed there.
 
Currently the alt-boorus are still going. They might not be as populated as Derpi is user wise but they are still there and functioning as they should and without image restrictions on MLP stuff. The mod situation here is currently unknown (at least by me) but there is still a somewhat tense air to the site still. Although if it does go south again, the alternate boorus are still there to fall back on.
 
You can also delve into the forums and stuff to find out more current info but I don’t really use the forums much to know if anything is still going on.