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Context: Chrysalis reforms at some point inbetween S3-S9 and Discord remains evil all the way through
This is not Discord Drama
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nightshroud96

@secury
Just because it has to be some adventuring quest for the Mane 6 doesn't mean the sisters had to be shafted like that.
At least let Luna escape or something. SOMETHING

Still humiliating either way for falling to those tactics anyway..
secury

@nightshroud96

but the fact the writers tossed away logic to ensure the princesses get shafted in the movie just pisses me off.


While there was no way that the princesses were going to play a major role, otherwise it wouldn't be an adventuring quest with mane six. But, they surely could put up a better fight.

The surprise attack from the Obsidian Orbs doesn't make the whole thing less humiliating


That almost certainly is humiliating, but I would say that most pragmatic tactics are kinda humiliating for the victim.
nightshroud96

@secury
If Luna actually got statue-ed while in mid-air, the scene is essentially an asspull there.
Since Tempest would be reckless there since Luna could have been shattered to bits upon falling and they wouldn't be able to take her magic.
Tempest would have been in big trouble, but the fact the writers tossed away logic to ensure the princesses get shafted in the movie just pisses me off.

The surprise attack from the Obsidian Orbs doesn't make the whole thing less humiliating. Like the sisters being caught off guard doesn't make the scene less humiliating.
secury

@nightshroud96
I guess the details not really important. The outcome is that Tempest defeated the Luna, Celestia, and Cadance like in 20 seconds. On one hand, I guess surprise attack with obsidian orb is a valid tactic, when you are fighting alicorn I guess you don't want to fool around, on the other hand, I would say that as a seasoned warrior like Luna and Caletia would have a better reaction.
nightshroud96

@secury
I think Luna was actually flying mid-air when she got hit, right?
Don't think she was purposely holding still for the orbs to hit.

I don't know.. I don't want to check the clips to see if I remember right or not since it hurts so bad in seeing what the movie did to Luna there.
secury

@nightshroud96
You mean that bolt that Twilight shot at one of the creatures and it deflected from his shield? Well, in that case, that could be just regular unicorn magic bolt.

In this case, it looked like Luna and Celestia let them be hit by the orbs. Sure it was meant to clear stage for Mane 6 but still, it made them look kinda incompetent.
nightshroud96

@Red-Supernova
If Discord's magic is strong enough to bypass the anti-magic protection of those armors but alicorn magic can't then that means another blow to the credibility of alicorns there..
(Seriously, alicorn magic is suppose to be among the most powerful magic in Equestria but all the shortcomings happening to Alicorns like Luna and Celestia is really dragging that reputation down)
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@nightshroud96
I dunno. I don't think anything labeled "anti-magic" should be 100% immune to all magic. That's like similar immunities in Pokémon games. Now magical resistance is another thing and I'm sure Discord is powerful enough to break through a lot of those. As much as I would love to see Discord get fucked over, I don't think a Storm Guard's armor would be enough.

@secury
Yes, I would say Discord is not immune to those orbs.
nightshroud96

@Red-Supernova
Wonder how would it pierce through their armor though?

Pretty sure whatever direct reality-warping he would do would just "bounce" off of them.
Like he snaps his fingers only for some energy bounces off right back at him since the armor "blocked" the chaos magic from trying something>
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One of the better alternate timelines in this fandom. :D

@secury
I would like that as well but apparently, the writers for the finale didn't think that. :(

@nightshroud96
I think Discord is strong enough to pierce through their armor but seeing him get petrified by an Obsidian Orb would have been great.
nightshroud96

@secury
Most likely their anti-magic armor would protect them from Discord's direct reality warping.
And if they drop on him with an Obsidian Orb.

But even then, there still needs more than that to "balance" Discord's powers out(no, his arrogance doesn't count as that)
Like ways of beating his magic without the need of a rainbow laser or magic-nullifying.
secury

@nightshroud96
Although to give Discord some credit, in the season 6 finale he actually did a pretty good job in the hero stuff. He didn't sabotage anything and really did what he could to help save the day.

And his face how he didn't give a single buck about abducting ponies until they mentioned Fluttershy was hilarious.
secury

@nightshroud96
Even the Starlight herself said that Discord could take out the whole changeling army by sneezing. Or Tirek was so lucky that Discord was willing to team up with or he couldn't do a jack squat.

You said it very well, Discord on the side of the heroes make other villains look like a slight inconvenience. So yeah, Discord really should have some kind of kryptonite.
nightshroud96

@secury
They really should have explored the limits/weaknesses of Discord's chaos magic since he pretty much messes up the threats of the other villains.
Chrysalis was lucky the writers gave her some freaky stone throne that happens to mess up non-changeling magic. Or otherwise her hive would have been SCREWED. Oh so dead
secury

@OtherFritz
I would say one of the problems with Discord was that he was simply too overpowered. If he really wanted to he could solve every problem with one snap of his fingers, thus to make some conflict in the store he must the one who causes it. I think the show should have put some restrictions on his power after his reformation.

But not to badmouth him all the time, I really liked him as a villain in S2 premiere.