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These three are just so memeable it hurts! :rofl:
 
Well I thought earlier of making an edit to my “Change Starlight’s Mind” pic by putting in “The Trio can still be reformed. Change my mind.” but I decided to just make an entire new pic using some assets of them from recent art. Had lots of fun doing this!
 
So what do you guys think? Can they all be reformed? I’ve said this before but I do think they can be reformed, yes even Tirek, and I have some fanfic ideas for how it can happen in “Flurry Heart’s Story”.
 
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Ohvist

Finally, someone who isn’t a complete lobotomy on this site!
If there’s one phrase that can basically summarize Equestria’s rulership underneath Twilight Sparkle, it would have to be this:
“Only Caesar can lead the Legion.” -Joshua Graham, Fallout: New Vegas
MildMonster1234

Re watching MLP you come to realize that Twilight isn’t actually very good at this reforming thing. Like the cartoon horse has straight up killed more people then the master of Talk No Jutsu himself Naruto and that guys a ninja raised to kill.
Background Pony #D863
Today in yet another “I took a fictional character fate extremely seriously and in need of personal vendetta towards real people who worked on it and living in my mind rent free for years” saga.
Background Pony #D300
@Flufux  
Then you wonder why all those peeps on fimfiction raided ya… You just ask for it rubbing it in their faces..
asdtroi
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

And then we see discords bad future were he just has Celestia and Luna as his personal clowns.
 
A terrified Celestia and Luna being tormented by him in an Equestria thats barely recognizable and with no other ponies around. Totally not evil.
 
 
@Background Pony #6AA8  
How do you know that Zecora died and wasn’t just knocked out? How do you know that no one died under Discord’s alternate history reign of terror?
 
 
@Background Pony #6AA8  
So Chrysalis’s intentions to feed her subjects also matter then. Good to know. And even then, what Discord did was still unjustifiable. He manipulated, lied to and gave false hope to three people who already got severely and in two cases too saverely punished for their crimes with the intent to have them fail. Where was his good intentions with them? Where was his good intentions when he did things a thousend years ago that made ponies remember him as having a heart as cold as stone? What was the good intention when he escaped his prison and when he sided with Tirek?
 
 
@Background Pony #6AA8  
Like how he the Main 6 should have been happy to put him back to stone after all he put them and Equestria to even after being given the second chance that the trio never got?
Background Pony #6AA8
@Harshie83  
He should smile when turning the trio to stone honestly screw them they spent all day tryna kill him and his friends i would smugly smile too if I got rid of those shitbags
Background Pony #6AA8
@asdtroi  
Intentions do freaking matter when one characters intentions are to take over dominate for control and power and anothers intentions are to benefit someone else to be a capable leader yes intentions DO AND WHILE ALWAYS FREAKING MATTER
Background Pony #6AA8
@Background Pony #6AA8  
Also Like we see zecora get killed on screen in chrysalis future are we really gonna compare discord getting that piece of shit who started ww2 getting killed to zecora who Is a nice pony who has kindly helped our heroes constantly
Background Pony #6AA8
@asdtroi  
Um so wat about the war in her bad future that has implied to end in death have anything to do with feeding subjects. What about tireks mindless destruction in his bad future. And then we see discords bad future were he just has Celestia and Luna as his personal clowns. Sombra started ww2 in his bad future. Is this short term memory? Even with discords reign hes shown to be a lighter shade of black even back then when he was a villain in comparison. Nothing about getting these guys defeated while having good intentions can be considered ‘evil’ morally questionable maybe but evil is a strong world. @Smart Heart
 
@Harshie83
asdtroi
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

@Background Pony #6AA8  
Innocent or not, its still not justifiable, especially if he gets to get away with it while those three don’t even get so much as an offer of a second chance.
 
 
@CORDZ2000  
he would always learn a lesson at the end of the episode and come back slightly nicer than the last in a later one except for matter of… for ex he was mean and dismissive to big mac and spike and then later they became friends as to which in that episode hes dismissive of love and then later in their last ep together he was happy to hear big Mac getting married. Even tho matter of was a big step backwards he does later ask to be involved instead in Summer Sunsetback. The Finale plenty people saw as ruining his character completely and showing he didn’t learn anything, forgetting that the grogar thing probably wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t actually care about anyone.
 
He learns lessons on how not to be horrible only to later do something horrible. And again, this doesn’t change the fact that the only reason he keeps learning these lessons is because he was given a chance and plenty of help to do so. And as for the Grogar thing, that was legitimately one of the worst things he ever did. He manipulated the trio in horrible ways and set them up for failure.
 
He was trying to help his friends be successful leaders, the writers intentions were obviously to portray Discord as someone who was a flawed being who had a misguided if well intended goal who was called out for it and made up for it and later punishes villains who they meant to be seen as irredeemable for things such as trying to tear off spikes wings and chrysalis saying they’ll never change and rightly deserve to be punished.
 
Helping his friends by willingly endangering a bunch of ponies and again, doing something genuenly horrible to the already punished trio and then going so far as to sadistically beg for them to get turned to stone. As for the trio, their actions are no worse then those of the previously reformed villains. Even Chrysalis’s threat can be countered by Discord’s Equestria wide reign of terror a thousend years ago, Starlight’s attack on her own villagers and Tempest aiding the conquest of multiple nations. And Chrysalis’s words can easily be countered by Discord mocking the ponies for trying to reform him.
 
The writers intention
 
Intention doesn’t matter when Discord looks horrible, the heroes look like hypocrits and the trio got an overly cruel and unfair punishment.
CORDZ2000
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).

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@CORDZ2000
I used to like Discord as well and loved his redemption, but as the show went on they just kept making me question just how much he’s changed and when the trio weren’t even given a second chance after Discord got so many, it just made me hate him. And even before that, he just kept on being consistantly horrible in almost every episode he was in.
 
I can see what your coming from but i do want to note that he would always learn a lesson at the end of the episode and come back slightly nicer than the last in a later one except for matter of… for ex he was mean and dismissive to big mac and spike and then later they became friends as to which in that episode hes dismissive of love and then later in their last ep together he was happy to hear big Mac getting married. Even tho matter of was a big step backwards he does later ask to be involved instead in Summer Sunsetback. The Finale plenty people saw as ruining his character completely and showing he didn’t learn anything, forgetting that the grogar thing probably wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t actually care about anyone.
 
He was trying to help his friends be successful leaders, the writers intentions were obviously to portray Discord as someone who was a flawed being who had a misguided if well intended goal who was called out for it and made up for it and later punishes villains who they meant to be seen as irredeemable for things such as trying to tear off spikes wings and chrysalis saying they’ll never change and rightly deserve to be punished.
 
The writers ofc didn’t intend how sympathetic many would be towards the trio and how much people would be mad at discords actions as they obviously saw it like me as discord being a spirit of chaos and using chaos to help his friends and just not thinking things through. Im not saying because the writers intended it a certain way means thats how u have to see it that way but just offering different perspectives.
Background Pony #6AA8
@asdtroi
I agree. The smug look on his face after stoning the Mean 3 was sickening.
 
To be fair u know he wouldn’t do that to innocent creatures right? I mean i know chrysalis is your queen but innocent Hmmm not saying Discord is innocent either ofc.
asdtroi
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

@CORDZ2000  
I used to like Discord as well and loved his redemption, but as the show went on they just kept making me question just how much he’s changed and when the trio weren’t even given a second chance after Discord got so many, it just made me hate him. And even before that, he just kept on being consistantly horrible in almost every episode he was in.