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Now that I know that Discord was Grogar, I can't watch Discord's or Grogar's scenes with a straight face !

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Background Pony #9AE1
You know what I would have liked? If Discord had been straight up terrified of Grogar. Discord's actions and attitude have been mostly static throughout the show. Overpowered, arrogant, and bored apathy. Seeing someone like that have a panic attack over this new villian could be both incredible build up them, and interesting for Discord, a character I've been hoping to see some depowering of for a long time.

Discord has just been kind of boring to me due to his all-imcompasing power. I get that that's his thing, but the fact that he cares immensely about Fluttershy, the fact that he is OP, and the fact he doesn't protect her everytime she is in danger conflict with each other. He could have been given numerous reasons for this. Let's list a few:

"Dark magic, dark iron (the stuff that makes up the armor of the Storm King's troopers), and anything else with similar properties can't be affected by Discord's magic". Maybe he stays out of conflict because he's scared of his weakness being discovered. He sees it as a type of moral failing on his part.

Or how about:

"A the abyss stares into you scenario, where Discord's chaotic nature and magic puppet him more than he puppets them, he's just good at faking control of the situation." This could have been an allusion to neuro-divergent people and the struggles they might have to deal with.
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Flufux
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Flufux Corporations
@Yet One More Idiot
Agreed. But since that was way back in season 4, having him be one of the final enemies to take down in the finale still feels more justified than having it all be about Grogar…who only showed up in season 9 and, unlike the other legion of doom members, hadn't been the main antagonist of a two-parter before.
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Yet One More Idiot
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World's biggest idiot xD
@Flufux
@Kama and Hallie
The G4 version of him may have been based on the original Grogar, but he's clearly not the exact same character. Also, most G4 fans haven't seen 'Return of Tambelon', so they'll definitively have a greater connection to Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glow than him.

Yeah, but the same could be said of Tirek when he first showed up in the season 4 finale. It's not like many (or any) of the younger FiM fans at that point had ever watched "Rescue at Midnight Castle"… xD
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Flufux
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@Kama and Hallie
The G4 version of him may have been based on the original Grogar, but he's clearly not the exact same character. Also, most G4 fans haven't seen 'Return of Tambelon', so they'll definitively have a greater connection to Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glow than him.
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Flufux
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@Kama and Hallie
It's not that he couldn't work as a villain. And if he showed up as the main villain in a two-parter before season 9 then he could have been great. However, if I had to choose, then I would always pick a team up of familiar villains to be the final boss rather than some new guy who decided to show up right at the end with little to no build-up.
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Kama and Hallie

I really don't get the people who don't like Grogar because he had less personality than the other villains. Because:
1. The other villains barely had any personality when they first appeared, yet nobody hated them.

2. Grogar didn't even DO anything yet.
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Background Pony #72FD
I can actually see the resemblance now.

And even if they wasted the potential plot, we can't say they wasted Gorgar's character because he was never a character to begin with. His Bell mean he, and the intreating parts about, still exist.

For those criticizing the writers for the Grogar-Discord twist, would you actually trust them to have written the real Grogar in a way you found satisfactory after this?

Leaving real Grogar's fate open, fans complain. Leaving everyone else's fates closed in "The Last Problem", fans complain.
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Mirror Star

@Yet One More Idiot

@Jacalope
I would like to add that despite this reveal it does not seem that people don't realize/think that Grogar could still be out there or still in that banished place that Gutsy the Great sent him too. Discord probably imitated him because he knew that the real Grogar would not get in the way or suddenly pop up to stop his original plan. They can still do Grogar in any expansive comic or novel material, which I'm certain that they'll still do for a while, but Discord being Grogar does not diminish any real plans that they could do with him. Hell, for all we know, the Mane 6 may have run into him between that large time skip in the Last Problem
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Jacalope
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@Yet One More Idiot
Discord would be Frankenstein type, his greatest success / failure that he could never repeat in his life.

But yeah, that theory within Hasbro it would not be possible because of the simple existence of Princess Eris (eye, that she is canon I don't think is possible, but the simple idea that she is a cousin, suggests that creative directors are not interested in the theory , even that could have changed.)
Yet One More Idiot
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World's biggest idiot xD
@Jacalope
The fact that they both share the same colors of eyes, eyebrows and goat's head, no one has dared to create a theory that they are the same person because that theory is simply stupid… that must be the most painful thing that a fan of theories has happened.

Why are you not real, "Grogar is Discord's dad" theory?

Why not "Discord is Grogar's dad"?

I mean, Discord is basically a God of Chaos, when you think about it… Grogar is certainly not meant to be up to that kind of power level…
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Jacalope
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Noodles > Everything
The fact that they both share the same colors of eyes, eyebrows and goat's head, no one has dared to create a theory that they are the same person because that theory is simply stupid… that must be the most painful thing that a fan of theories has happened.

Why are you not real, "Grogar is Discord's dad" theory?
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Yet One More Idiot
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World's biggest idiot xD
Also they managed to completely ruin Grogar, who was easily one of the greatest villains of G1 along G1 Tirac and the Witches from Volcano of Doom with their Smooze.

They did, indeed, waste a perfectly good plot.
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Flufux
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@Mirror Star
My thoughts exactly.

I mean, I guess Grogar could have worked as a decent villain in his own right, but not as the ultimate final boss. A trio of familiar bad guys who all have have a long history antagonising the Mane Six felt like a way better challenge to ultimately overcome at the end of the series than a blue evil ram who came out of nowhere.
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Mirror Star

@Background Pony #D983
To be honest, Grogar was underdeveloped anyway so I welcomed the twist. Plus, I was afraid that he would overshadow Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow's efforts in the finale anyway after how we've seen them operate in two very good (in my opinion) episodes that showed off their working together potential.
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@Background Pony #D983
Grogar was such a wasted potential. Why hype him up and make him the most intimidating/competent villain if he's just gonna be turn out to be a fake? A troll by Discord… come on…
Not only they wasted the potential to make an epic villain boss, but also they managed to successfully ruin Discord. Years of effort to make Discord a great redeemed villain for nothing. I'm so mad about this…
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Background Pony #1BD2
Grogar is pretty underdeveloped character so I wasn't too upset about this. Shame still.
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