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@ElCid
Yes they did equate petrification to death. Backgroundpony#1496 said quote:
“-Nearly doomed Equestria had they have won
GOT OFF SCOT FREE FOR ALL OF THIS. GOT TO SUGGEST THE PUNISHMENT, AND PERFORM IT.
(Literally the equivalent of releasing 3 convicted criminals from prison, giving them all guns, telling them to go on a shooting spree together and then sentencing them to death for murdering several people and pulling the fucking switch on the electric chair)”
This is all mellow dramatic bullsh*t. You people are looking to be outraged and you ARE equating petrification to death because you can’t seem to accept that the show had to end at some point and loose ends had to be tied up.
 
That wasn’t equating petrification to death. Petrification is WORSE THAN DEATH. I’d rather be dead over being stuck in a statue while conscious for decades.
 
Also it’s called an “analogy”.
 
a·nal·o·gy  
/əˈnaləjē/  
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noun  
a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.  
“an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies”  
a correspondence or partial similarity.  
“the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia”  
a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.  
“works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature”
 
 
IT’S NOT AN EXACT COMPARISON OTHERWISE I WOULDN’T NEED SAID ANALOGY.
 
Just stop while you’re behind. Goodness…
 
@AC97  
This right here. He did not try redeeming them.
 
Releasing them from Tartarus to tempt them with power and showing them how to maximize on this is not a chance to reform.
 
If I took three random criminals and told them if you want to rob this bank you need a guy to hold hostages, a guy to steal the money and a guy to drive the get away car do you think they’re going to become good guys because they’re all bros now? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
 
@ElCid  
EXACTLY
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Re-watch the season premiere and tell me the Discords only intention was to gather the enemies together to pit them against twilight. It’s obvious that he gathered them in an attempt to show them the power of friendship. He stresses that I need to learn to work together a good eight times over the course of the season.
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@AC97  
Yet discord repeatedly emphasizes to the sinister three that they need to learn to work together and in the episode Frenemies they almost come to the understanding that working together and using friendship is far more powerful then going at it alone. Just because discord used a confidence boost as the primary motivation for gathering these villains does not Exclude the possibility that he gathered these villains to try and reform them.
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Actually, no, Discord didn’t try to redeem them. He was doing this so Twilight would defeat her worst enemies, and gain a confidence boost from it, and he was secretly the safety net.
 
To strengthen her through adversity was the intention, like Q from Star Trek might do.
 
Of course, the part where he was the “safety net” went horribly wrong.
 
There are no implications he secretly wanted to take over, or whatever, should note that. (For anyone that thinks it was, why would he try to talk them up into defeating Sombra?)
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Discord brought these villians together in an attempt to redeem them by teaching them to work together. He wanted them to understand the power of friendship and when they weren’t willing to recognize the significance of Getting along with others He turns them to stone just like he was. Perhaps he hoped the punishment would work for them like it did for him.  
I find it strange how a fandom that’s known for its creativity is so inclined to just take every piece of what they see in the season finale at surface value. It’s like you’re inclined to believe the worst about these characters motivations and intentions. You don’t seriously consider that if the show was given one or two more seasons they wouldn’t thaw out those villains and redeem them?
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@ElCid  
I just quoted him comparing the petrification to an execution. Ive read his whole post and Ive read your whole post. I read the entirety of posts I respond to, so that I don’t look like a jack ass. Also consider you’re defending someone who straight up admitted to not reading my whole post like that makes him intellectually superior or something? No not getting all of the information from somebody you’re responding to his fucking asinine
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@Wispy Tuft  
Uh, yeah, maybe because there’s no real-life petrification spell? They were making a point, and it seems you missed that that one was about how Discord got away with everything AND got to punish the very characters he set loose on everyone. They never once said the actual spell causes death. Maybe if you’d read further than that point, YOU’D KNOW THIS.
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@ElCid  
Yes they did equate petrification to death. Backgroundpony#1496 said quote:  
“-Nearly doomed Equestria had they have won  
GOT OFF SCOT FREE FOR ALL OF THIS. GOT TO SUGGEST THE PUNISHMENT, AND PERFORM IT.  
(Literally the equivalent of releasing 3 convicted criminals from prison, giving them all guns, telling them to go on a shooting spree together and then sentencing them to death for murdering several people and pulling the fucking switch on the electric chair)”
 
This is all mellow dramatic bullsh*t. You people are looking to be outraged and you ARE equating petrification to death because you can’t seem to accept that the show had to end at some point and loose ends had to be tied up.
ElCid

@Wispy Tuft  
Seems like YOU didn’t finish reading THEIR post, because they never said petrification = death.
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You expected the show staff to start treating her like a child NOW? The show doesn’t treat cozy glow like a child. It never has. For all we know shes a midget! She has no parents, shes two dimensional and has no backstory. Shes a Darla Dimple insert and nothing more. She gets treated like a villain because thats what she is. And on top of all of that she exists in the fantasy universe of MLP which plays under entirely different rules than ours.
 
To expect her to not be turned to stone because shes a child is bloody dense.
 
YOU: “Not even going to bother with the rest of your list, I’m sure it’s asinine and somehow trying to justifying permanently petrifying a child because she was “born evil” I guess?”
 
YES, From every indication, Cozy Glow is just plain evil.  
There’s no indication that the petrification will be permanent.  
Turning. Someone. To. Stone. In. MLP. Does. Not. Equal. Killing. Them.  
Not reading the full post? Surprise, surprise. Really I can’t say enough about knee-jerk slack-jaws like you. FINISH THE POST BEFORE YOU THINK YOU QUALIFY TO RESPOND.
Background Pony #50FE
Reminder:
  1. Nightmare Moon was purified, not reformed
  2. Discord was turned to stone and reformed later because Celestia thought he could be useful
  3. Chrysalis and the Changelings were thrown out of Canterlot
  4. Sombra was blown up
  5. Tirek was drained and put back in Tartarus
  6. Starlight was talked down because Twilight couldn’t beat her
  7. Tried to reform Chrysalis, failed. Other Changelings because they realized their entire way of life went against their biology after all
  8. Stygian was possessed, rescued. He was never “evil”
  9. Neighsay was ignored in the opener and “reformed” because he was a nationalist who realized his racism was bs. Accidental reformation
  10. Cozy Glow was fully aware of her actions and promised to do again, thrown in Tartarus
  11. Sombra was blown up
  12. No one tried to reform Trixie, that was an accident
  13. Sunset Shimmer was purified Nightmare Moon style
  14. The Dazzlings had their amulets destroyed and were chased off
Reformation is NOT something the Mane Six or any of the major characters aim for. Especially in the opener. Reformations tend to happen because of some purification magic. It’s actually Equestria Girls with Sunset Shimmer that go for it more and that’s usually because of being overwhelmed by Equestrian Magic and needing purification.
Reminder that
  1. Luna asked for forgiveness which should shouldn’t need to if it was entirely possession. It was her own emotions/free will that manifested into that.
2.) And since Discord has been reformed he’s:
-conned Fluttershy into refusing to use her Element and continued his chaos
-betrayed the mane 6 for power with Tirek
-Revived Sombra, released Tirek and Cozy from Tartarus
-Teleported Sombra into the Crystal Empire bypassing all defenses
-Resulted in the tree of Harmony being destroyed
-Set Cozy Glow, Chryssi and Tirek up with a super powerful artifact and taught them working together is the key to beating the mane 6
-Nearly doomed Equestria had they have won
GOT OFF SCOT FREE FOR ALL OF THIS. GOT TO SUGGEST THE PUNISHMENT, AND PERFORM IT.
(Literally the equivalent of releasing 3 convicted criminals from prison, giving them all guns, telling them to go on a shooting spree together and then sentencing them to death for murdering several people and pulling the f*cking switch on the electric chair)
Not even going to bother with the rest of your list, I’m sure it’s asinine and somehow trying to justifying permanently petrifying a child because she was “born evil” I guess?
What if she’s like Luna and she’s being influenced? There’s no evidence disproving that.
Reforming isn’t necessary. Hell there’s a good message in that not everyone can be made a good guy, but they had Discord set them up, show them learning friendship, having Tirek return Chrysalis’ powers even though it meant him losing his power up and had them defending each other in the final battle. I can’t hate people like that. At worst they should’ve gotten sent back to Tartarus. Not cast in stone until further notice (fun fact: Discord notes that you remain conscious while petrified and while he’s a timeless immortal who doesn’t care, imagine a filly who gets petrified, unable to cry, unable to scream. That child has been like that for decades considering the time skip)
 
So well said.
 
GOT OFF SCOT FREE FOR ALL OF THIS. GOT TO SUGGEST THE PUNISHMENT, AND PERFORM IT.  
(Literally the equivalent of releasing 3 convicted criminals from prison, giving them all guns, telling them to go on a shooting spree together and then sentencing them to death for murdering several people and pulling the f*cking switch on the electric chair)
 
Actually gave me chills, great analogy
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@Background Pony #1496  
You expected the show staff to start treating her like a child NOW? The show doesn’t treat cozy glow like a child. It never has. For all we know shes a midget! She has no parents, shes two dimensional and has no backstory. Shes a Darla Dimple insert and nothing more. She gets treated like a villain because thats what she is. And on top of all of that she exists in the fantasy universe of MLP which plays under entirely different rules than ours.
 
To expect her to not be turned to stone because shes a child is bloody dense.
 
YOU: “Not even going to bother with the rest of your list, I’m sure it’s asinine and somehow trying to justifying permanently petrifying a child because she was “born evil” I guess?”
 
YES, From every indication, Cozy Glow is just plain evil.  
There’s no indication that the petrification will be permanent.  
Turning. Someone. To. Stone. In. MLP. Does. Not. Equal. Killing. Them.  
Not reading the full post? Surprise, surprise. Really I can’t say enough about knee-jerk slack-jaws like you. FINISH THE POST BEFORE YOU THINK YOU QUALIFY TO RESPOND.
ElCid

@Background Pony #1496  
GODDAMN ALL OF THIS!
 
And while perhaps not everyone needs reforming, I’d say if Starlight can immediately be forgiven for all she did and Discord can keep being forgiven for all the BS he pulls, they could probably find some way to work some sense into these three.
Background Pony #79A7
Reminder:
  1. Nightmare Moon was purified, not reformed
  2. Discord was turned to stone and reformed later because Celestia thought he could be useful
  3. Chrysalis and the Changelings were thrown out of Canterlot
  4. Sombra was blown up
  5. Tirek was drained and put back in Tartarus
  6. Starlight was talked down because Twilight couldn’t beat her
  7. Tried to reform Chrysalis, failed. Other Changelings because they realized their entire way of life went against their biology after all
  8. Stygian was possessed, rescued. He was never “evil”
  9. Neighsay was ignored in the opener and “reformed” because he was a nationalist who realized his racism was bs. Accidental reformation
  10. Cozy Glow was fully aware of her actions and promised to do again, thrown in Tartarus
  11. Sombra was blown up
  12. No one tried to reform Trixie, that was an accident
  13. Sunset Shimmer was purified Nightmare Moon style
  14. The Dazzlings had their amulets destroyed and were chased off
Reformation is NOT something the Mane Six or any of the major characters aim for. Especially in the opener. Reformations tend to happen because of some purification magic. It’s actually Equestria Girls with Sunset Shimmer that go for it more and that’s usually because of being overwhelmed by Equestrian Magic and needing purification.
 
Reminder that
 
  1. Luna asked for forgiveness which should shouldn’t need to if it was entirely possession. It was her own emotions/free will that manifested into that.
     
    2.) And since Discord has been reformed he’s:  
    -conned Fluttershy into refusing to use her Element and continued his chaos  
    -betrayed the mane 6 for power with Tirek  
    -Revived Sombra, released Tirek and Cozy from Tartarus  
    -Teleported Sombra into the Crystal Empire bypassing all defenses  
    -Resulted in the tree of Harmony being destroyed  
    -Set Cozy Glow, Chryssi and Tirek up with a super powerful artifact and taught them working together is the key to beating the mane 6  
    -Nearly doomed Equestria had they have won  
    GOT OFF SCOT FREE FOR ALL OF THIS. GOT TO SUGGEST THE PUNISHMENT, AND PERFORM IT.  
    (Literally the equivalent of releasing 3 convicted criminals from prison, giving them all guns, telling them to go on a shooting spree together and then sentencing them to death for murdering several people and pulling the f*cking switch on the electric chair)
     
    Not even going to bother with the rest of your list, I’m sure it’s asinine and somehow trying to justifying permanently petrifying a child because she was “born evil” I guess?
     
    What if she’s like Luna and she’s being influenced? There’s no evidence disproving that.
     
    Reforming isn’t necessary. Hell there’s a good message in that not everyone can be made a good guy, but they had Discord set them up, show them learning friendship, having Tirek return Chrysalis’ powers even though it meant him losing his power up and had them defending each other in the final battle. I can’t hate people like that. At worst they should’ve gotten sent back to Tartarus. Not cast in stone until further notice (fun fact: Discord notes that you remain conscious while petrified and while he’s a timeless immortal who doesn’t care, imagine a filly who gets petrified, unable to cry, unable to scream. That child has been like that for decades considering the time skip)
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Reminder:
 
  1. Nightmare Moon was purified, not reformed
     
  2. Discord was turned to stone and reformed later because Celestia thought he could be useful
     
  3. Chrysalis and the Changelings were thrown out of Canterlot
     
  4. Sombra was blown up
     
  5. Tirek was drained and put back in Tartarus
     
  6. Starlight was talked down because Twilight couldn’t beat her
     
  7. Tried to reform Chrysalis, failed. Other Changelings because they realized their entire way of life went against their biology after all
     
  8. Stygian was possessed, rescued. He was never “evil”
     
  9. Neighsay was ignored in the opener and “reformed” because he was a nationalist who realized his racism was bs. Accidental reformation
     
  10. Cozy Glow was fully aware of her actions and promised to do again, thrown in Tartarus
     
  11. Sombra was blown up
     
  12. No one tried to reform Trixie, that was an accident
     
  13. Sunset Shimmer was purified Nightmare Moon style
     
  14. The Dazzlings had their amulets destroyed and were chased off
     
    Reformation is NOT something the Mane Six or any of the major characters aim for. Especially in the opener. Reformations tend to happen because of some purification magic. It’s actually Equestria Girls with Sunset Shimmer that go for it more and that’s usually because of being overwhelmed by Equestrian Magic and needing purification.
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I still miss the Weekly World News. It was the last honest paper in America. And hey if you believe that I have a rich Nigerian prince who needs to get his millions out of the country I want to introduce you to.
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