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Comic Sombra superior, Show Sombra inferior.
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Also, I managed to come across this, and ohhh boy! They got a ton of what a said (and missed others) but hey! This gets my point further across on terrible SHOW writing
 
https://youtu.be/-c-SHO-ecUE
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“You actually believed that was her plan and not the writers talking out of their ass. Because that whole idea is completely stupid. Let him become evil, let him kill millions of her citizens, let him banish her whole kingdom from reality thereby bring more pain to future people. All so that one day he will turn good.”
 
 
You must have read a different comic, because it literally states that’s what the princess believe. She honestly thought he was good. Another reason I think you really can’t remember the comics…killed millions of citizens? Where you pull that from? Also stated in the comics, he never had the heart to kill HER! So why would he kill the citizens? Stop making up stuff to support your idiology.
 
“There were plenty of ways to fix this even in the context of the story. Sombra could have left the Crystal Empire any time. Heck since the princess knew everything she could have warned him to leave. Instead, she did nothing. Radiant Hope had every chance to convince Sombra, that one that loved her to leave with him, but no. She randomly decided to ignore him until he murders the princess then panic to the others and then disappeared, in other words, she did nothing.”
 
Again, more proof you didn’t read recently. He did leave the empire, he was doing just that when he found hope was also leaving to attend school with Celestia and Luna. Oh she definitely tried to convince him, but after what the umbrum told him, after a life of suffering and bullying…yeah, anyone would go mad.
 
(also read above about him not killing the princess.)
 
“Even outside of these plot hole the comics clearly showed they had no grasp of the character. Sombra was meant to be an over looming villain, feared by all who looked upon him, that is how the original version was depicted, the only thing cartoon got wrong was barely showing him off.”
 
You clearly didn’t read into what I said previously, so just watch this YouTube video, which states exactly how they messed up his character in season 9 to how he was in previous seasons.  
https://youtu.be/bOCvw-qu7iQ
 
 
“ He conquers the Crystal Empire in less than a few minutes. He’s practically treating it like a standard jog down the track. He survives a full-on friendship blast like it was a flashlight and then kills the Tree of Harmony without breaking a sweat. For all reasons he won and then suddenly he loses his grip, he starts panicking and his dies, all with in the last five minutes and why because the show simply doesn’t know how to use him.”
 
You pointed out the plot holes to a tee. He takes down the empire and canterlot because…there was what? 3-5 guards? Wheeee.  
Survived the harmony blast? How? Will the show tell us how? Discord himself couldn’t take that! Why sombra?
 
Look, it wasn’t that the show didn’t know what to do with him…the show was so lazy to do anything! Again, cliché villain that dates back to early James Bond, har har I’m evil I won, oh no I didn’t panic in fear and is destroyed.  
The show is basically like “Hey, a very minimal number of fans wants Sombra back!”  
“alright, make him a threat, blow him up, and we’ll never have to worry about it again, even if we leave behind a TON of questions on the FINAL SEASON.”  
He really was lazy writing, he seemed so corny and nothing like how the show originally had him (see video above again if you forget already.)
 
“The comics version is terribly written, while the show’s version is terribly used. The pic is meant to show which one is the better writer and though the show has poor use of him, they didn’t poorly write him.”
 
I’ll say again as I said previously, you’re giving the show way too much credit. I did agree both are not even close to perfect, but you really are pushing to overglorify the show, as do most people, and ignore the fact that it really isn’t good.
 
Don’t have any more points to give, especially when most of these was a repeat to what I said previously and you didn’t seem to catch on at all.
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Princess, sure? But she was hoping he’d go the route of good, especially with Hope at his side, and the one that did something was the Umbrum tricking him into being evil, instead of him deciding for himself.
 
You actually believed that was her plan and not the writers talking out of their ass. Because that whole idea is completely stupid. Let him become evil, let him kill millions of her citizens, let him banish her whole kingdom from reality thereby bring more pain to future people. All so that one day he will turn good.
 
There is no plan there at all. She did nothing because the writers needed a reason for Sombra to exist and they wrote themselves into a corner with this idea.
 
There were plenty of ways to fix this even in the context of the story. Sombra could have left the Crystal Empire any time. Heck since the princess knew everything she could have warned him to leave. Instead, she did nothing. Radiant Hope had every chance to convince Sombra, that one that loved her to leave with him, but no. She randomly decided to ignore him until he murders the princess then panic to the others and then disappeared, in other words, she did nothing.
 
Really the biggest problem comes down to the writers being to ambitious. They wanted an epic villain, that was also redeemable yet they needed to stick with whatever ending didn’t hinder the overall series.
 
Even outside of these plot hole the comics clearly showed they had no grasp of the character. Sombra was meant to be an over looming villain, feared by all who looked upon him, that is how the original version was depicted, the only thing cartoon got wrong was barely showing him off.
 
The comics tried to lighten him, but that was never his problem. Sure he shows up more in the comics, but he feels more like the cool guy rather than looming darkness. In other words, compare him to other villains in other media. The comics treated more like Sasuke when they should have been treating him more like Marada.
 
Back to what I was saying first. The show knew what kind of character he was from the beginning. This is shown in the Season 9 premiere. Say what you will about the episode itself and its strange choice for his voice what it got right was a depiction of a true over looming darkness villain. He conquers the Crystal Empire in less than a few minutes. He’s practically treating it like a standard jog down the track. He survives a full-on friendship blast like it was a flashlight and then kills the Tree of Harmony without breaking a sweat. For all reasons he won and then suddenly he loses his grip, he starts panicking and his dies, all with in the last five minutes and why because the show simply doesn’t know how to use him.
 
The comics version is terribly written, while the show’s version is terribly used. The pic is meant to show which one is the better writer and though the show has poor use of him, they didn’t poorly write him.
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I mean even in terms of being a villain at least he’s still consistent. The show not so much. Plus it ain’t hard topping the shows shitty version.
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@GryphonStar5678  
don’t get what you mean by everyone not doing anything. Princess, sure? But she was hoping he’d go the route of good, especially with Hope at his side, and the one that did something was the Umbrum tricking him into being evil, instead of him deciding for himself. Plus, the final nail in the coffin was Hope going to Celestia and Luna to stop him, so that’s when he vanished the empire. Doesn’t seem like nothing was done to me, there were many steps to him turning.
 
Also the show does has some sad setbacks, for one, why did the crystal heart not kill him in season 9? He purposely put a ton of traps to keep it away from everyone so that no one could get BECAUSE it could kill him…but somehow he’s immune now?  
Also somehow immune to the element of harmony, getting blown up but returning? Also doesn’t make sense.  
Plus, from what we’ve gathered in season 3 and 5, he was cunning, smart, never hesitated to take down his foes (Shining Armor being an example), and clearly knew what he was doing.
 
Kinda failed on those parts, especially with the cliche “I got the main characters trapped…gonna walk away now with no one to guard him.  
Kinda reminds me of this hahaha! https://youtu.be/Gb428ySuFjA?t=10
 
And lets not ever forget that voice…and personality change to the equivalent of Prince Blueblood only more “evil.”
 
Yeah, I see many more problems with the show’s version of Sombra alright.
 
But, we both agreed they aren’t perfect, but I can see the show has more flaws than what you give it credit for.
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I don’t consider either perfect at all but when the comics only excuss was everyone must do nothing at all in order to let Sombra become evil it really shows which one doesn’t know what it’s doing. In the show, all we have is him barely being there, really lesser problems then the comics.
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You are being very bare bones. Totally forgetting how many holes were in that comic. Saw what you will about the cartoon version at least it’s full of plot holes.
Comics = Terribly written.
Cartoon = Terribly used.
 
Trying to understand what you mean. You argue that the comics have holes, but then saying the show has holes? If so, then YES you are right. Both are equally contradictive and just sub-par written. But those who rip on the comics because of the errors, and then claim that the show is perfect…need to be evaluated, because face it, the show really isn’t plothole free.
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Yeaaaahhh, and the show’s sombra really only got worse with season 9….like just ridiculously worse.
 
 
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@GargantuanBass
Perhaps, but what they did with Sombra still showed a lack of thought and effort, and much disrespect for the efforts of the writers over at IDW as well as disrespect to the fandom who spent time making him much more than he’d ever been in the show.
Like it or not, what they did invites comparison, and it isn’t a favorable comparison.
 
Agreed! In season 9 especially, they made him so insanely cliche, even more so than previous episodes. He was definitely more menacing and a threat before season 9, but after that…posh richboy tone that’s as annoying as Prince Blueblood, who seemed to have gotten dumber after being destroyed by the crystal hear.
 
IDW Sombra definitely best!
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Perhaps, but what they did with Sombra still showed a lack of thought and effort, and much disrespect for the efforts of the writers over at IDW as well as disrespect to the fandom who spent time making him much more than he’d ever been in the show.
 
Like it or not, what they did invites comparison, and it isn’t a favorable comparison.
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Y’know, not every character is there to have some super layered backstory or character arc. Characters exist to serve the story.
 
Like how Dio in Jojo is one-dimensional but a great character anyway because he’s a hammy bastard that’s fun to watch. Sombra was a looming threat (well, in s3 at least) and an obstacle for the heroes to overcome.
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You are being very bare bones. Totally forgetting how many holes were in that comic. Saw what you will about the cartoon version at least it’s full of plot holes.
 
 
Comics = Terribly written.
 
Cartoon = Terribly used.