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@nightshroud96  
Whatever. Cozy and Tirek still would’ve known if an opportunity to escape came up and they would’ve taken it the second they could. Also, all three of the villains themselves have a history of using other living beings as pawns. What happened to them can be considered karmic. Also, you’re not convincing me that Discord should be punished for what he did. His heart was objectively in the right place and he’s wacky and chaotic. End of story.
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@Andyxdr  
Nope, distrating the trio isn’t enough to make up for what he had done.  
It doesn’t mean he’s off the hook for essentially trying to use other living beings as pawns. He needs to be chewed out hard for that. So far, everyone that is mad at him is focusing on the mess his plan has caused, not the fact of the terrible thing he is doing of using other living beings as cannon fodder to sacrifice. Twilight would actually be horrified that Discord attempted to do that.
 
Cozy Glow’s tricks will not work. When they locked her up, most likely they let Cerberus know about her trickery.  
And what we saw of her failed attempt in Frienemies showed if her tricks didn’t work. That’s it, she’s screwed. Completely powerless. If anyone is aware what Cozy Glow has done, that’s it for her. Her tricks will never work since they are aware she is a manipulator, which means they will never listen to her.
 
 
Like I said for Chrysalis, the only threat Chrysalis pose is herself. Even if she doesn’t stop, the fact still remains. She is no longer a threat to anyone but herself. Whatever she will come up with in that crazed state will obviously fail horribly now.  
She is no longer in a state of mind to come up with ANY plan at all that can work. Most likely she would herself killed or get locked up or just to broken to try anything, just talking to that log there.
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@Smart Heart  
Maybe, but even if it was, don’t underestimate Cozy.
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@Andyxdr  
Provided that it wasn’t trained well enough.
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@Smart Heart  
I meant she could’ve tricked Cerberus into leaving its post while she was in Tartarus.
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Cozy is an expert manipulator. She probably could’ve tricked Cerberus into leaving its post.
 
How do you know she was in Ponyville at that time?
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@nightshroud96  
Look, Discord just got the wrong idea and he felt bad about it and made up for it. Also, Cozy is an expert manipulator. She probably could’ve tricked Cerberus into leaving its post. Even if Chrysalis lost her sanity and continued to come up with plans that could end badly for her, she still would’ve kept on trying to get revenge.
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@Andyxdr  
Nope.  
The plan would have still made her realize she can still beat baddies.  
She may be able to lead others during a crisis, but the fact still remains which Discord had miss.  
On actually running a actual country and princess stuff.  
All it did was just remind her she can lead people in a crisis and still protect Equestria, but not actually run a country.
 
@Andyxdr  
No they freaking wouldn’t.  
It took Tirek a 1000 years to get out and that’s due to he lucked out immensely due to Cerberus leaving its post somehow. Most likely that will not happen ever again.  
As for Chrysalis, she’s freaking insane now. The only threat she poses is to herself(Mean 6 showed that whatever she comes up with now might get herself killed). She’s just a broken mess now.
 
@Starswirl  
Which he really needs to be called out on hard.  
Since that is something villains would do(use others as pawns and get them killed even).
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He is supposed “Reformed” btw. lmao…
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@TheKman100  
Of course he set them up for failure. And if Sombra is any indication, he might not have meant for them to survive it either.
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@nightshroud96  
Also, Cozy and Tirek probably would’ve figured out how to escape from Tartarus by themselves and Chrysalis could’ve come up with another plan that probably wouldn’t have been dangerous to herself.
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@TheKman100  
Look, guys. The two parter was meant to be action-packed and Discord came up with his own plan to boost Twilight’s confidence. Also, I’m pretty sure after the villains were defeated and all of Equestria united against them, Twilight realized that she inspired many to follow the ways of friendship and therefore she became confident that she can handle anything as ruler of Equestria.
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@TheKman100  
And the fact Mean 6 showed whatever plans Chrysalis might pull will just backfire on her badly and can get her killed.  
She’s only a threat to herself at that point.
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@Andyxdr  
True… but “Grogar” ended up giving them a better one. They would’ve been screwed if they didn’t do something.
 
The Terrible Trio were barely threats when “Grogar” summoned them. Two were caged in Tartarus, open-and-shut case. The third was staying hidden, likely going mad as she plotted against everyone she either preyed upon or used to trust. It seemed like “Grogar” was giving them another chance, but… if his “plan” was all a ploy to boost the confidence of their arch-nemesis, how much of a chance was it? If Discord had his way, would they have given a more lenient punishment?
 
Because it looked to me like he was setting them up for failure. And he seemed wholly unsurprised that they wouldn’t stand for that.
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@Andyxdr  
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
Also, Discord’s plan misses the point.  
Twilight literally saved the day many times over. His plan would just remind her she can save everyone’s flanks.  
But her main problem is how to actually run a country. Politic stuff, princess duties. That is what she is worried about, not being able to kick some bad guy’s ass or not.
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@Andyxdr  
There are other ways to boost confidence than using dangerous criminals as puppets.
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The difference is that Discord did what he did for good reasons since he wanted to boost Twilight’s confidence and the villains committed crimes purely for selfish and malevolent reasons.
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@Andyxdr  
SO?
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@Andyxdr  
That really doesn’t make what Discord is doing ok.  
“Two wrongs don’t make a right” apply here.
 
Especially since he used Cozy Glow, Chrysalis and Sombra as pawns too.
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@nightshroud96  
Well, Discord himself was used as a disposable pawn by Tirek.
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@TheSultanAkbar  
My point is he’s supposed to be freaking reformed now.  
He shouldn’t be seeing others as playthings or disposable pawns anymore.  
How he treated the trio has pawns is something pre-reform Discord would do.  
Post-reform Discord shouldn’t be thinking like that now.
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@Background Pony #8E6B  
And besides, by teaming them up and giving them knowledge and access to such a powerful object, he might have caused lots of casualties had the plan gone perfectly or not. Where does THAT fit into his “well-intentioned” plan?
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@TheSultanAkbar  
Good god… let me clarify. you said
Well, discord is just above that kind of thinking. Come on, he’s Discord.
 
And I compare what you said with  
So? Would you say a psychopath that enjoys killing cause he can’t understand that it is bad innocent or justified?
 
meaning that what you say is like : ‘‘Oh okay he is discord he does stuff like that lets forgive him.’’  
So with the same logic, I ask you. Would you say that for psychopath that enjoys killing cause he can’t understand that it is bad. Say that he is innocent or justified?
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Discord: 1000 years or so turn to stone ought to chill them out.
 
An Aladdin reference kind of thing.
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@Background Pony #8E6B  
What? Discord didn’t kill anyone, what are you talking about? Those three were well known threats to Equestria.