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Turning her future boyfriend into food for omnivores and carnivores, “worth it??”…
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That's him, officer
Well, at least Spike will go well with bacon.
 
@Dragonpone  
I feel you, Celly.
I mean, sunny-side up? How much more wrong could you be?
 
Hey, I like mine sunny-side up.
 
…Also covered with hot sauce
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@noradtwo  
I can acknowledge that, but that episode still leaves an awful taste because of his ego causing him to screw Thorax over in the first place and the pity party at the end that seemed to absolve him of all wrongdoing. He may have done it, but at the same time Starlight seems to be the designated give-everyone-a-chance character, was there and arguably could have done it better.
 
Spike seems like a candy bar wrapper at this point by introducing more interesting characters. Thing is, once you eat the bar you throw the wrapper away.
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@Rally Flag  
It was pretty obvious from your initial comment that you don’t like Spike, and I’m not trying to make you like him.
 
I only ask that you acknowledge his role in befriending Thorax, rather than saying that “someone else could do it,” because that theoretical argument can be used against many others.
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@noradtwo  
I’m not arguing that. But I’m also not going to change my mind given that Spike is practically the worst character in the series to begin with.
 
So often a problem he is required to solve is his fault for occurring in the first place (aforementioned Power Ponies and Inspiration Manifestation), or he does next to nothing to solve it while simultaneously taking all the credit (Triple Threat), or the problem is not only so narrow as to cater to his specific skill set but everyone else is handicapped to make it so that only he can solve the problem (Equestria Games). Games holds a special pet hate for me because not only should whoever is in charge of safety for the games be fired for letting a rain cloud be scheduled for a day where projectiles that turns things into ice are a possible risk, but we are to believe that Equestria trusts Celestia to rule Equestria and their lives for over a thousand years but also not trust her to not cheat?
 
Lesson Zero was almost his best moment. I say almost, because “OBVIOUSLY SPIKE DID NOT NEED TO LEARN A LESSON.” Except to rein in his completely undeserved ego. This showed up again in Inspiration Manifestation again, but worse because Spike seemed to learn his lesson… except then used that lesson to completely ignore all accountability for his actions.
 
Apologies for the rant.
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@Rally Flag  
It’s true that Equestria’s defense is built up to be redundant. “Next man up,” if you will. Twilight was only needed because Sunset blew her initial chance, and it’s likely that Twilight could have been replaced by Trixie had she failed to pass the CSGU entrance exam.
 
But like I just did, you’re making big theoretical leaps for the sake of discounting a character.
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@noradtwo  
I’m sure the map could have figured that out and sent Fluttershy plus one to solve that issue. Likely the same with Ember by sending Twilight and Rarity to help out there.
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@Rally Flag  
Without Spike, there is no Thorax to help Starlight, Trixie, and Discord.
 
No Thorax to attempt to share love at the last moment. Without him, Starlight’s final efforts in the changeling hive are likely to be in vain, assuming they even get to the throne room without his help.
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@Rally Flag  
Except for the part where Chrysalis takes over Equestria at the end of season six… that’s, um, definitely a downgrade from most people’s perspective.
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@Daneasaur  
I mean, I’m still convinced that replacing Spike with Owlowiscious would be an overall improvement since he’s not only more competent at Spike’s own job but also wouldn’t cause so many other problems like enchanted comics or getting Rarity possessed.
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@noradtwo  
Right, the assumption would be that she had a different manner of 1:1 communication with twilight, which would likely also take care of -
 
 
@genervt  
  • this situation. That said, it wasn’t just Spike being able to send letters that lead to Celestia showing up, but that Spike was the only one who knew she was off her rocker and contacted Celestia ASAP. It’s likely when the sun would have set, nothing would happen, chaos continuing into the night until SOMEONE was aware of the mayhem in ponyville and came up with the idea of contacting Celestia to solve it.
     
    But yes, it has nothing to do with Sombra, though one thing I recall is that Rarity tells Spike to stick with Twilight because she doesn’t trust twilight going off on her own, so it’s POSSIBLE in a no-spike timeline that Rarity was with Twilight instead to get her away from the door and to get the heart to cadance.
     
    That said, once we reach To Where and Back Again, Chrysalis attains a full party wipe.
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@Daneasaur  
Celestia did send messages through Spike to revitalize Twilight when she was discorded, though I suppose Celestia could have found another way.
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That’s implying Twilight didn’t nuke half of equestria during lesson zero, since no spike = no message to celestia that twilight is completely off her rocker.
 
That hasn´t anything to do with Sombra.  
Celestia would still stop Twilight, it just would take much longer until she catches on what happened.
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@genervt  
That’s implying Twilight didn’t nuke half of equestria during lesson zero, since no spike = no message to celestia that twilight is completely off her rocker.
 
Spike didn’t factor into the defeat of nightmare moon or discord so no worries there.
 
Same goes for the first changeling invasion.
 
Commence the crystal empire, Twilight goes off into the castle on her own and engages the nightmare door and is frozen as Sombra slowly forces cadances defenses to crumble before re-claiming the heart, but this time with the 6 at ground zero with Sombra likely enslaving them instantly.
 
IF they somehow got out of that one, Spike is a non factor in the Plunder vines or Tirek’s attack.
 
Again, non factor in Starlight’s village.
 
He was the one who touched the scroll Starlight used to entrap twilight into her time loop, but beyond that didn’t have a hand in stopping starlight.
 
Season 6 is where Spike would be missed the most and would cause some of the largest changes:
 
-Gauntlet of fire  
Without spike present, Ember drowns and Garble reaches the scepter. That said, we don’t know what his plans would be as Spike and the ponies didn’t “ruin his day”, so he has no reason to target the ponies.
 
-Times they are a changeling  
Spike doesn’t exist to find Thorax, much less befrend him or fight for his innocence. Thorax is either caught and imprisoned or continues living in his hole in the ground, which leads to…
 
-To where and back again  
Trixie, Starlight, and Discord go after the changelings but suffer from the power nullification of Chrysalis’ throne, and without a changeling to assist their infiltration, much less one to learn to give love and not just take it, Chrysalis attains a full party wipe and conquers equestria and the crystal empire.
 
Spike hasn’t had any story-related importance after that and through all of season 7 and 8. Not even a friendship problem.