“ They just need $5 million more to be equivalent to the budget of Food Fight”
How are the box office returns of one film beating it’s budget 10 fold, and the fact an unrelated film had a much bigger budget related in anyway shape or form?
Also we rent you bragging about how good the ttg movie was doing earlier this year when that movie made 10 million less than the mlp movie (on a budget nearly 2x as big)?
Let’s face it, people. Pop stars are like porn stars: no matter how much we mock them for their one-noted personalities and lackluster talent, they’ll always get a bigger audience than anything else.
@Lord You Know Who
You do realize that just because one did better at the box office than the other one doesn’t make it “objectively better” than the other. Same applies for critical consensus where just because Caustic Critics on the Internet praised one while bashed the other doesn’t mean that it’s “objectively better” either. It’s all subjective and it’s all by opinion. You liked My Little Pony: The Movie or you didn’t. You liked Blade Runner 2049 or you didn’t. You liked Venom or you didn’t. You liked A Star Is Born or you didn’t. It’s all opinion based on which one is better quality wise.
@Lord You Know Who
As someone else already explained to you, judging the success of a movie solely by the opinions of those handful of individuals is hardly fair to either of those films. Intentionally or not, some of those individuals and institutions have a bias against MLP and towards Blade Runner born purely out of their pre-established perceptions of those two franchises. Don’t tell me you honestly believe Cracked and the Academy Awards are totally fair and unbiased. Even if Blade Runner did technically do better than MLP, it wasn’t by as large a margin as your suggestion. Nor is the MLP movie a failure because it did not outperform Blade Runner in certain regards.
Editing Room scripts of both the original movie and 2049.
Cinemasins of both the original movie and 2049.
Brad Jones did a positive review of 2049.
And again, OSCAR NOMINATION (that should be the discussion ender on which movie was more sucessful).
If you take box office aside, and you take the opinion of ALL bronies (this very site included, with the possible exception of Ledvi) aside, “Blade Runner 2049” was the more sucessful movie.
The thing, you can’t have a non-biased opinion because you are a brony.
I brought up this subject on the Cracked message boards multiple times, and they unanimously declared “Blade Runner 2049” the winner (often while referring to “My Little Pony: The Movie” as “that stupid Pony movie”).
On that subject, Cracked has talked about “Blade Runner 2049” in many articles, while it hasn’t said a peep about “My Little Pony: The Movie”.
PS: As Ledvi pointed out, even if “My Little Pony: The Movie” did well at the box office, “Blade Runner 2049” did better, which is my point to begin with. So even taking box office into account, 2049 comes out as the winner.
@Lord You Know Who
There’s no denying the MLP movie was better received by bronies than by those unfamiliar with the franchise, but that doesn’t mean the unfamiliar crowd automatically accepted Blade Runner 2049 as perfection either. There’s a reason the box office take of the latter film was considered disappointing, after all.
No, buck that, I’m not gonna be dragged into another flame war.
All I’m saying is that “My Little Pony: The Movie” may have been a success among the brony fanbase, but ask anybody who isn’t a brony, and they’ll tell you that “Blade Runner 2049” is the better movie.
It’s why I’m drawing this parallelism: “Venom” is well-receieved by comic book fans, but outside of that niche fanbase, “A Star is Born” is better received.
So your definition of a movie’s success is entirely decided on the perspectives and participation of a handful of online personalities and media platforms?
@Lord You Know Who
Most of those big name YouTubers aren’t fans of the series in general and clearly never wanted to tackle it in any way.
But seeing as how they review movies for a living, they now had to talk about it or else they wouldn’t get paid, hence the half-assed attempts at reviews (they all pretty much said, “If you like ponies, I guess you’ll like this?”).
Plus, in the UK where I live, MLP managed to outlast Blade Runner 2049 in cinemas: BR was out for about 2 weeks, MLP wasn’t pulled until the end of November, over twice the time.
The only one being positive towards the movie was Tamara Chambers, and even she took potshots at the movie.
Compare that to all the attention “Blade Runner 2049” got.
I’m sorry, but between the two movies, the Replicants curbstomped the Ponies.
And it’s happening again. Most reviews of “A Star is Born” are positive, while most reviews of “Venom” are either negative or “this movie is just decent”.
@Lord You Know Who
I wouldn’t say My Little Pony: The Movie was savaged all around, but some people (coughIGNcough) definitely don’t know their movies as well as they let on. Or if they do, aren’t willing to be fair to every single one.
Plus audience response is still very positive.
And having just seen Venom earlier today, I personally really enjoyed it. It’s nothing great, but not bad either, something I’d recommend and I’m certainly going to see the sequel (it’s pretty much a given at this point).
@Ledvi
Who here ever claimed MLP: The Movie was a massive hit? All we are saying is that the film was a financial success by Hollywood movie standards. It definitely did not bomb, at least not in the way most people–including those in the industry–would define a movie bombing. And FYI, all those other movies you listed had far larger budgets than the MLP movie. Sure, 60 million might not seem like much compared to the box office of most mainstream movies, but it’s a phenomenal number for a film made on as small a budget as the MLP movie. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
@Ledvi
That “small amount” is nearly ten times the amount of money they sank into the film. That’s a success by most any definition and certainly as far as Hollywood is concerned.
@Paradox_Brony
Same here. While the movie had its flaws, I still thoroughly loved it for what it was.
I’m sorry man but at that point we’re just measuring success in very different ways. Personally love the movie and I’m glad that it made the money that it did.
@cloudkicker108
Neither do you if you think that’s considered a pass. In fact, It barely made it to the top 100 box office hits of 2017, hitting in 98th place.
Compare it to Star Wars the Last Jedi box office at $1.3 billion or if we want to do October, Blade Runner 2049 worldwide made over $92 million, Happy Death Day worldwide made $122 million, and Jigsaw at $102 million. Possibly the only film that fell behind MLP FIM the movie is Boo 2 A Madea Halloween at $48 million worldwide.
But keep tellling yourself that $60 million dollars is considered a box office hit. They just need $5 million more to be equivalent to the budget of Food Fight.
Though to be fair to Doug and some other critics, they do make some good points and repeatedly state that their opinions are their own and that they’re fine with people enjoying the movie. The opinions are mostly exaggerated for the sake of entertaining the audience and themselves.
“ They just need $5 million more to be equivalent to the budget of Food Fight”
How are the box office returns of one film beating it’s budget 10 fold, and the fact an unrelated film had a much bigger budget related in anyway shape or form?
Also we rent you bragging about how good the ttg movie was doing earlier this year when that movie made 10 million less than the mlp movie (on a budget nearly 2x as big)?
Sorry about that, dude. These things happen
Also, your username makes me think of Billy and Mandy
The thing is, you are free to like what you like, and dislike whgat you dislike.
There’s no accounting for taste.
You like “My little Pony: the Movie”? That’s OK.
You like “Blade Runner 2049”? That’s Ok.
You like both movies? That’s OK.
You seem to be underneath the impression that these two movies have to be compared and there must be a loser and there must be a winner.
And I think it’s safe to say you’re the only one here who sees that as an unavoidable and necessary practice.
You do realize that just because one did better at the box office than the other one doesn’t make it “objectively better” than the other. Same applies for critical consensus where just because Caustic Critics on the Internet praised one while bashed the other doesn’t mean that it’s “objectively better” either. It’s all subjective and it’s all by opinion. You liked My Little Pony: The Movie or you didn’t. You liked Blade Runner 2049 or you didn’t. You liked Venom or you didn’t. You liked A Star Is Born or you didn’t. It’s all opinion based on which one is better quality wise.
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As someone else already explained to you, judging the success of a movie solely by the opinions of those handful of individuals is hardly fair to either of those films. Intentionally or not, some of those individuals and institutions have a bias against MLP and towards Blade Runner born purely out of their pre-established perceptions of those two franchises. Don’t tell me you honestly believe Cracked and the Academy Awards are totally fair and unbiased. Even if Blade Runner did technically do better than MLP, it wasn’t by as large a margin as your suggestion. Nor is the MLP movie a failure because it did not outperform Blade Runner in certain regards.
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Honest Trailer of the original movie.
Editing Room scripts of both the original movie and 2049.
Cinemasins of both the original movie and 2049.
Brad Jones did a positive review of 2049.
And again, OSCAR NOMINATION (that should be the discussion ender on which movie was more sucessful).
If you take box office aside, and you take the opinion of ALL bronies (this very site included, with the possible exception of Ledvi) aside, “Blade Runner 2049” was the more sucessful movie.
The thing, you can’t have a non-biased opinion because you are a brony.
I brought up this subject on the Cracked message boards multiple times, and they unanimously declared “Blade Runner 2049” the winner (often while referring to “My Little Pony: The Movie” as “that stupid Pony movie”).
On that subject, Cracked has talked about “Blade Runner 2049” in many articles, while it hasn’t said a peep about “My Little Pony: The Movie”.
PS: As Ledvi pointed out, even if “My Little Pony: The Movie” did well at the box office, “Blade Runner 2049” did better, which is my point to begin with. So even taking box office into account, 2049 comes out as the winner.
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There’s no denying the MLP movie was better received by bronies than by those unfamiliar with the franchise, but that doesn’t mean the unfamiliar crowd automatically accepted Blade Runner 2049 as perfection either. There’s a reason the box office take of the latter film was considered disappointing, after all.
No, buck that, I’m not gonna be dragged into another flame war.
All I’m saying is that “My Little Pony: The Movie” may have been a success among the brony fanbase, but ask anybody who isn’t a brony, and they’ll tell you that “Blade Runner 2049” is the better movie.
It’s why I’m drawing this parallelism: “Venom” is well-receieved by comic book fans, but outside of that niche fanbase, “A Star is Born” is better received.
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So your definition of a movie’s success is entirely decided on the perspectives and participation of a handful of online personalities and media platforms?
Really glad I’m not you man.
Most of those big name YouTubers aren’t fans of the series in general and clearly never wanted to tackle it in any way.
But seeing as how they review movies for a living, they now had to talk about it or else they wouldn’t get paid, hence the half-assed attempts at reviews (they all pretty much said, “If you like ponies, I guess you’ll like this?”).
Plus, in the UK where I live, MLP managed to outlast Blade Runner 2049 in cinemas: BR was out for about 2 weeks, MLP wasn’t pulled until the end of November, over twice the time.
If you’re looking for a more positive look at the movie, might I interest you in mine:
[PROS + CONS] - My Little Pony: The Movie
As for Venom. It’s a Sony Spider-Man movie. When has anyone been kind to one of them unconditionally?
I personally really enjoyed it and I’ll definitely watch the sequel.
No Honest Trailer.
No Cinema Sins video.
No Editing Room script.
Brad Jones savaged it.
Chris Stuckmann savaged it.
Andre Meadows was passive-agressive towards it.
The only one being positive towards the movie was Tamara Chambers, and even she took potshots at the movie.
Compare that to all the attention “Blade Runner 2049” got.
I’m sorry, but between the two movies, the Replicants curbstomped the Ponies.
And it’s happening again. Most reviews of “A Star is Born” are positive, while most reviews of “Venom” are either negative or “this movie is just decent”.
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I wouldn’t say My Little Pony: The Movie was savaged all around, but some people (coughIGNcough) definitely don’t know their movies as well as they let on. Or if they do, aren’t willing to be fair to every single one.
Plus audience response is still very positive.
And having just seen Venom earlier today, I personally really enjoyed it. It’s nothing great, but not bad either, something I’d recommend and I’m certainly going to see the sequel (it’s pretty much a given at this point).
“Blade Runner 2049” got mostly positive reviews from critics, and was even nominated for an Academy Award.
“My Little Pony: The Movie” was savaged by most critics that reviewed it.
And now we have deja vu, with “A Star is Born” getting much more favorable reviews compared to “Venom”.
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Who here ever claimed MLP: The Movie was a massive hit? All we are saying is that the film was a financial success by Hollywood movie standards. It definitely did not bomb, at least not in the way most people–including those in the industry–would define a movie bombing. And FYI, all those other movies you listed had far larger budgets than the MLP movie. Sure, 60 million might not seem like much compared to the box office of most mainstream movies, but it’s a phenomenal number for a film made on as small a budget as the MLP movie. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
@Ledvi
That “small amount” is nearly ten times the amount of money they sank into the film. That’s a success by most any definition and certainly as far as Hollywood is concerned.
@Paradox_Brony
Same here. While the movie had its flaws, I still thoroughly loved it for what it was.
I’m sorry man but at that point we’re just measuring success in very different ways. Personally love the movie and I’m glad that it made the money that it did.
But its not a success either if it only made that small amount.
it still made more than what it cost to make that’s not a bomd
Neither do you if you think that’s considered a pass. In fact, It barely made it to the top 100 box office hits of 2017, hitting in 98th place.
Compare it to Star Wars the Last Jedi box office at $1.3 billion or if we want to do October, Blade Runner 2049 worldwide made over $92 million, Happy Death Day worldwide made $122 million, and Jigsaw at $102 million. Possibly the only film that fell behind MLP FIM the movie is Boo 2 A Madea Halloween at $48 million worldwide.
But keep tellling yourself that $60 million dollars is considered a box office hit. They just need $5 million more to be equivalent to the budget of Food Fight.
MLP: The Movie
Budget = 6.5 million
Box Office = 60.3 million
I don’t think you understand what “bombed” means.
I like you.
Though to be fair to Doug and some other critics, they do make some good points and repeatedly state that their opinions are their own and that they’re fine with people enjoying the movie. The opinions are mostly exaggerated for the sake of entertaining the audience and themselves.
And also almost ten times it’s own budget.
Budget - $6.5 million
Box office - $60.3 million