@Frustration in Excelsis
Actually, the implication in the premiere episode was about substituting social interaction for studying. Twilight was flat out ignoring others and not making any friends for regular studies. The school of friendship promotes active social interaction and instead of a normal curriculum teaches the lessons they Mane 6 have learned over seven seasons and how these applications have benefited pony society.
With the Student Six, we mostly see them outside the classroom but its implied several times that their bonds grew through their lessons and things like group studies that Twilight promoted. They have become more mature, faster friends because of the school, not in spite of it.
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
I wouldn’t advise that. MLP is not a negative continuity show, consequences of SoF episodes can pop up a few seasons later, and you will have no idea what’s happening. Though you can skip EQG, show never directly references that.
@Background Pony #8AB6
At least MLP is episodic enough you can skip the junk episodes. Standard TV season lengths really damage TV as a medium due to forcing filler or excessive cutting.
The original plan was to end MLP at the end of season 3. Why else would they have made Twilight a princess after a short season and the spectacularly bad series finale?
Because 65 episodes was and is a common show length for syndication purposes and was likely all Hasbro funded initially before evaluating whether or not it was a good move to fund more seasons.
Opinion time!
MLP had run its course by the time season 3 ended.It only continued so that the franchise could be milked, after all, all the stories it has told since could’ve been told without the ’ending.
Who cares, though? Certainly not Hasbro or DHX. Why should we? In the end, more pony.
The original plan was to end MLP at the end of season 3. Why else would they have made Twilight a princess after a short season and the spectacularly bad series finale? I find seasons 3 and 4 are the uninspired low point of the show—the song in the S4 finale about “What do I do as a princess?” may as well have been a meta-commentary on the show itself also having no idea how to handle Princess Twilight.
It’s pretty obvious she’s talking about normal schools not the school of Friendship that Twilight
had the idea for after all normal schools don’t study friendship only regular things while the school
of Friendship is just that to learn friendship,relationships. some of you bronies are just putting words
and or projecting your contradictions,hypocritical,double standards on to Celestia at that time she isn’t
an wasn’t wrong.
@Background Pony #5F2C
Its also important to distinguish the studying Twilight was doing from the studying the students at the friendship school do. Twilight was alone and shunned interaction with others with few exceptions, the studying in the friendship school encourages interaction and socialization.
Opinion time!
MLP had run its course by the time season 3 ended.It only continued so that the franchise could be milked, after all, all the stories it has told since could’ve been told without the ’ending.
Who cares, though? Certainly not Hasbro or DHX. Why should we? In the end, more pony.
@Chuy Ryu
Not true. The exact words from the letter are:
My dear Twilight, there is more to a young pony’s life than studying, so I’m sending you to supervise the preparations for the Summer Sun Celebration in this year’s location: Ponyville. And, I have an even more essential task for you to complete: make some friends!
@Frustration in Excelsis
Even if that’s true (I would certainly think the students do learn important things in the classes, about the history of friendship and its effect on Equestria if nothing else), the dorms and community created by the school’s existence foster/enable the bonding you speak of as well. One of the points of making the school was to give other species a place to stay where they could learn with less chance of a disastrous culture clash.
Pic 1: Even princesses follow the law. Here, take the book I wrote.
Pic 2: Following the book I wrote and demanding a school to follow its guidelines is not okay, chancellor.
Yeah, the impression I got from the original post was that the quotes were meant to represent what each premiere episode was saying, rather than being actual, specific quotes.
Thank you for this comment. I was about to have a brain aneurysm.
Also, sending written reports about your research is a very academic thing to do.
I, Princess Celestia, hereby decree that the unicorn Twilight Sparkle shall take on a new mission for Equestria. She must continue to study the magic of friendship. She must report to me her findings from her new home in Ponyville.
@R34L_S34L @Background Pony #8AB6
Yeah, the impression I got from the original post was that the quotes were meant to represent what each premiere episode was saying, rather than being actual, specific quotes. The Season 1 premiere did very much have a message about going out in the world, meeting people and growing – Twilight needed to stop shutting out potential friendships and relationships in favor of studying, studying, studying, and instead went to live in a new town, experience new things and then think about what she learned from her experiences. In contrast, Season 8 is fairly clearly promoting a narrative where characters go to school and learn friendship through homework assignments, essays and tests – these are very different ways of approaching the matter, and to be perfectly honest I can see why a lot of people are less than satisfied with the show’s current direction.
I also tend to agree with @Background Pony #8AB6 on the matter that the students seem to learn and grow the most when they’re outside the classroom and outside the school’s curriculum. They first bonded and became friends while skipping school in “School Daze”, and likewise their major moments of learning and growth were in “The Hearth’s Warming Club” and “What Lies Beneath” – and in neither case were they learning in class. When they are studying from the mane six, we get episodes like the bulk of “School Daze”, “The End in Friend” and “Non-Compete Clause”, where it seems like the teachers and staff are the ones learning and the students are… well, they’re, um, they’re there too.
To be entirely honest, I don’t find this development too shocking – what I mean is that friendships and interpersonal relationships grow the best when people are allowed to interact with each other in whichever way comes natural to them, bounce their respective personalities off of each other, and… well, and befriend each other and work through whatever issues arise as they need to and at whichever pace they need to. You don’t really get the chance to do this while taking notes in a lecture hall.
So the people that’s hate the School of friendship is trying to start a drama, I’m confuse right now, somebody please explain this whole situation about this thing.
Still actually going back and listening to what Celestia said, the original thing she told Twilight (not in this scene but the scene immediately after the Mane Six defeated Nightmare Moon) about needing to make friends combined with what she told her in her letter at the beginning of Friendship is Magic about pulling her nose out of dusty old books is likely why many of us so easily miss-remembered what was said.
In short, Celestia never did say that friendship couldn’t be learned from a book, but it was strongly implied that she didn’t believe Twilight could learn about it from books. That was the premise of the first season after all: Twilight learning about friendship through living it first hand. Remembering all of that, I can’t help but feel that the critique against the whole School of Friendship concept is still a valid one, rooted in the show’s premise. Technically, the show’s still pushing that message since it seems like all of the major growth as friends the Student Six had throughout the season never came from their studies, but just from hanging out with each other.
Actually, the implication in the premiere episode was about substituting social interaction for studying. Twilight was flat out ignoring others and not making any friends for regular studies. The school of friendship promotes active social interaction and instead of a normal curriculum teaches the lessons they Mane 6 have learned over seven seasons and how these applications have benefited pony society.
With the Student Six, we mostly see them outside the classroom but its implied several times that their bonds grew through their lessons and things like group studies that Twilight promoted. They have become more mature, faster friends because of the school, not in spite of it.
I always read the Wikipedia summaries for episodes I skip on the off chance something important happened there.
I wouldn’t advise that. MLP is not a negative continuity show, consequences of SoF episodes can pop up a few seasons later, and you will have no idea what’s happening. Though you can skip EQG, show never directly references that.
At least MLP is episodic enough you can skip the junk episodes. Standard TV season lengths really damage TV as a medium due to forcing filler or excessive cutting.
Because 65 episodes was and is a common show length for syndication purposes and was likely all Hasbro funded initially before evaluating whether or not it was a good move to fund more seasons.
The original plan was to end MLP at the end of season 3. Why else would they have made Twilight a princess after a short season and the spectacularly bad series finale? I find seasons 3 and 4 are the uninspired low point of the show—the song in the S4 finale about “What do I do as a princess?” may as well have been a meta-commentary on the show itself also having no idea how to handle Princess Twilight.
had the idea for after all normal schools don’t study friendship only regular things while the school
of Friendship is just that to learn friendship,relationships. some of you bronies are just putting words
and or projecting your contradictions,hypocritical,double standards on to Celestia at that time she isn’t
an wasn’t wrong.
Its also important to distinguish the studying Twilight was doing from the studying the students at the friendship school do. Twilight was alone and shunned interaction with others with few exceptions, the studying in the friendship school encourages interaction and socialization.
MLP had run its course by the time season 3 ended.It only continued so that the franchise could be milked, after all, all the stories it has told since could’ve been told without the ’ending.
Who cares, though? Certainly not Hasbro or DHX. Why should we? In the end, more pony.
Not true. The exact words from the letter are:
Even if that’s true (I would certainly think the students do learn important things in the classes, about the history of friendship and its effect on Equestria if nothing else), the dorms and community created by the school’s existence foster/enable the bonding you speak of as well. One of the points of making the school was to give other species a place to stay where they could learn with less chance of a disastrous culture clash.
Pic 2: Following the book I wrote and demanding a school to follow its guidelines is not okay, chancellor.
Thank you for this comment. I was about to have a brain aneurysm.
Agreed.
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Am not reading this, i only read 30 words at most
@Background Pony #8AB6
Yeah, the impression I got from the original post was that the quotes were meant to represent what each premiere episode was saying, rather than being actual, specific quotes. The Season 1 premiere did very much have a message about going out in the world, meeting people and growing – Twilight needed to stop shutting out potential friendships and relationships in favor of studying, studying, studying, and instead went to live in a new town, experience new things and then think about what she learned from her experiences. In contrast, Season 8 is fairly clearly promoting a narrative where characters go to school and learn friendship through homework assignments, essays and tests – these are very different ways of approaching the matter, and to be perfectly honest I can see why a lot of people are less than satisfied with the show’s current direction.
I also tend to agree with @Background Pony #8AB6 on the matter that the students seem to learn and grow the most when they’re outside the classroom and outside the school’s curriculum. They first bonded and became friends while skipping school in “School Daze”, and likewise their major moments of learning and growth were in “The Hearth’s Warming Club” and “What Lies Beneath” – and in neither case were they learning in class. When they are studying from the mane six, we get episodes like the bulk of “School Daze”, “The End in Friend” and “Non-Compete Clause”, where it seems like the teachers and staff are the ones learning and the students are… well, they’re, um, they’re there too.
To be entirely honest, I don’t find this development too shocking – what I mean is that friendships and interpersonal relationships grow the best when people are allowed to interact with each other in whichever way comes natural to them, bounce their respective personalities off of each other, and… well, and befriend each other and work through whatever issues arise as they need to and at whichever pace they need to. You don’t really get the chance to do this while taking notes in a lecture hall.
It’s hard to explain… But I’ll do my best.
Basically, the one on the left was done to make it seem like Season 8 was contradicting Season 1. When it wasn’t.
you want hate it this show? :/
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Still actually going back and listening to what Celestia said, the original thing she told Twilight (not in this scene but the scene immediately after the Mane Six defeated Nightmare Moon) about needing to make friends combined with what she told her in her letter at the beginning of Friendship is Magic about pulling her nose out of dusty old books is likely why many of us so easily miss-remembered what was said.
In short, Celestia never did say that friendship couldn’t be learned from a book, but it was strongly implied that she didn’t believe Twilight could learn about it from books. That was the premise of the first season after all: Twilight learning about friendship through living it first hand. Remembering all of that, I can’t help but feel that the critique against the whole School of Friendship concept is still a valid one, rooted in the show’s premise. Technically, the show’s still pushing that message since it seems like all of the major growth as friends the Student Six had throughout the season never came from their studies, but just from hanging out with each other.