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@mixi  
That’s not important. It’s about your mentality, not the specifics of your work. It doesn’t matter if it’s an animation or a picture, or a car engine.
 
“when the price goes to the sky it’s not my fault”  
Who says it’s your fault? Just understand why it actually goes to the sky and don’t use this when you are judging your work. Don’t ever use this as an excuse to anything – that’s my only issue, you’ve just tried to whitewash it with this kind of argumentation, trying to prove that it’s worth it, because someone else would pay way more for it and even tried to induce some kind of guilt, stating that you’ve added some voice in the price.
 
You are selling a product that’s worth much less for most of the people on the market and it’s fine, that’s how free market works, you can do this, but please don’t try to use such logic to argue with the people who think otherwise, because it’s not the point here. I get it that whoever paid for this probably had a preview and knew that this won’t be fluid or detailed in the end and it’s fine, that’s how it works. The only problem I see is your argumentation. You seem to be afraid to just realize some aspects of such stuff. In the first place you shouldn’t even engage in any discussions about it, but you did, which shows that you don’t want to accept the situation and you’ve pulled some of the worst arguments people constantly repeat over and over again. You will get nothing but shit this way.
 
You could just admit “yes, I charged this kind of money but the commissioner knew how the animation will look like this from the beginning, so I don’t care” and it would be fine. There’s NOTHING terribly wrong about it. People may argue if this is the right thing to do but this is how the market works – if there’s money, why not pick it up when you can? If people want to rip themselves off and be happy about it, then why not capitalize on that. Just don’t try to fight later with such stupid arguments, when people will be bitching about the amount of money involved in a piece, because they will, they always do. The more you will make the more negative feedback or even hate you will get in return and you have to understand why it’s happening and handle it appropriately and what you just did was not appropriate at all. Your best bet is to ignore it and not engage in any discussion about it. Just realize in your head that these people are mostly right, but it’s your choice to capitalize your work this way and you have the right to do so. The sooner you realize it, the better for your mental health – fighting about it will only make you enemies.
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@mixi  
To be fair, you had a month to make it better, THAT was your opportunity. They already told you your mistakes, now it’s up to you whether you fix it or not right now. Nothing’s really stopping you to own up to cutting corners just to fit a quota. Animation should be about improving your current skillset, otherwise you stay the same or get worse. Just know that if you keep this up friendo, people have every right to not want to do business with you anymore.
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@mixi  
>>1740696  
That one for example. Your animations are normally much more fluid overall. This is your level of quality, you are known for. Plus the cute factor. And you normally take care of details. All this wasnt the case here as others mentioned. Simply not your “standard” quality. Ok. So when you wont change the animation smoothness or errors and details, then you may add this to the description. That you only add the hair and change the color of the oc. So people know what they get. If you wrote this in the description of the ych, then it is fine. Otherwise i can see that people get mad.
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@Background Pony #DAD7  
is not fully fixed as you expected
 
Listen when I’m finishing art piece I’m putting all my art skills and abilities. All of it. And I simply can not jump over my head in quality I can put in today. I was working on the animation and sound until I couldn’t put anything more to make it better.
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@SnoopyStallion  
What is my at least standart animation quality level? Could you please describe that? How is this particular one low level? There’s not much of opportunity to work on it longer. Yes I could add, like, socks or other clothes but that’s abouit it. Adding more inbetweens won’t make it better in each case either. I’m building ych preview animation like a perfectly planned rock statue so people see what they buy and can only add small details afterwards. I’m offering my art work and providing rules to the audience and when the price goes to the sky it’s not my fault.
Background Pony #774C
@mixi  
After hearing something like this from the artist I just threw 500 bucks at I’d be seriously pissed off. Imagine going to a car mechanic to pick up your car and realizing your engine is not fully fixed as you expected and the mechanic tells you: “Hey! I have other cars waiting too! Also I didn’t force you to pay me money, btw you know I once charged twice as much for an easier job? So show some appreciation and get out of here!”
 
“I didn’t want to spend a month on one animation cause other projects are waiting and people are waiting.”  
You want to tell me that if I commission you, I may randomly expect worse or better quality for the same money, just because you may have other people waiting, so you won’t care about my commission that much as you would care if I’d be last in the queue? If you offer X quality and I pay you money to get work from you, I expect to get that X quality and I don’t care how much people are waiting for a piece – I’m one of them, you know?
 
“Ropes and hair movement could be better of course. But would you really care?”  
Yes. I would. Considering I’ve paid this kind of money.
 
“did I forced anyone to bid so much hmm?”  
Did anyone forced you to take that much? You can have a threshold, you know.
 
“I did animation that was 10 times shorter and went 1000+”  
Did anyone forced that guy to pay you that much? If some psycho-fan will once pay you 10000$, are you going to be using this argument for eternity to excuse yourself every time? You now will be repeating this every time someone accuse you of laziness and overpricing? You think that you no longer have to pay attention to the details in a $500 piece, just because someone paid you $1000 once? What if someone will pay $2000? Now you will refuse to do $500 and take $1000 for a slideshow and if someone will accuse you of ripping off you will pull out your PayPal transactions as an argument?
 
It’s not about art or animation right now. It’s about your terrible mentality. You are trying to excuse everything in the amount of money someone paid you for. If you are starting to charge this kind of money for your work, then you better be ready for people to expect more from you, or at least the same, not worse, and they have the full right to do so. Yes, if you have people willing to pay you sick amounts of money for a certain job, then you may use this opportunity to rip off some good money, it’s free market after all, but don’t use this as an excuse if someone accuses you of shit. You are making the mistake many artist do. You are just blinded by the numbers, thinking they are describing the reality and the state of real things. This is the only thing you have, that PayPal transaction, that’s your only argumentation right now. You are not even trying to defend yourself with describing how hard something may be to produce or try to argue that people are wrong and the piece is not bad – you just jumped straight to “I once charged…” argument. You didn’t even try to defend your work because you know it’s not as good as it could be, you are just defending your income. You will never become a good artist with this kind of mindset.
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@mixi  
Question. When you get that much money. Wouldnt it be an opportunity to work on it longer to get at least to your standard animation quality level? I would understand if it just made you like 100 bucks. But 500+ is a lot of money to work with. Maybe you can make stretchgoals on your next ych. Where peeps can unlock improvements to the given animation like more in betweens and so on. That way you can plan ahead and people get more for their money. Win win for everyone. And it doesnt matter if other things are waiting. It would only harm you in the long run when you just go for quantity instead of quality.
Background Pony #C460
@mixi
 
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I (and anyone with sense, really) figured was the case; unfortunately, I highly doubt that BP is gonna let such inconvenient little facts as all that get in the way of being A N G E R Y. That dude strikes me as the sort who’s his very own white-knight - complete with the obligatory hyper-defensiveness and frenetic straw-grasping over imagined slights that don’t even pretend at being rational, fair, or based in objective reality.
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@Background Pony #E800  
Let’s see here. It is lazy animated uwu, I didn’t want to spend a month on one animation cause other projects are waiting and people are waiting. Instead 19 seconds animation was done in one week. Ropes and hair movement could be better of course. But would you really care? >not worth 500 dollars, did I forced anyone to bid so much hmm?owo I did animation that was 10 times shorter and went 1000+ Also in the last moment I decided to hire wonderful voice actress and spent 2 more nights on sound without charging extra.
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
I think you should google “constructive criticism” because I don’t think it means what you seem to think it means.
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
Maybe they pointed only that out because they think/know nOnnny can do better, and are pointing out what’s wrong so the next one’s better? Just because you don’t like how it was said, doesn’t mean what was said isn’t constructive criticism.
 
If you don’t agree with the things that were said, that’s fine. You can like it all you want, but BP clearly doesn’t, and pointed out the problems they saw. You don’t get to tell them what they can, and can not, criticize.
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
I meeeaaaaan, he did say the cum/fluid looked good. So it wasn’t technically all bad.
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i respect hard work. but that here is just lazy. and nothing to praise into the sky. that is all. it is simple not a good animation. quality is obviously lower than usual. so nothing to praise here. i said was is wrong with this animation and that is my critique. and i dont try to sugarcoat bad work. i am just brutal honest. and artists have to deal with that. you cant just praise artists for everything. they have to know when they screwed up and that they sometimes didnt reach their own quality level. except it was done poorly on purpose. then it was just a dick move to make a quick buck from the die hard fans.
 
Constructive criticism is one thing but you’re just blatantly pointing out only the bad things just because you don’t like the animation or art in general and that is not constructive criticism and I do accept that you have the free will to go ahead and say whatever you want on this website but that is rules and guidelines so you can’t all in all you are allowed to have disagreements on any piece of art that you don’t like but when it comes to constructive criticism you can’t just point out the bad things, because then it doesn’t make it constructive criticism.
 
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
i respect hard work. but that here is just lazy. and nothing to praise into the sky. that is all. it is simple not a good animation. quality is obviously lower than usual. so nothing to praise here. i said was is wrong with this animation and that is my critique. and i dont try to sugarcoat bad work. i am just brutal honest. and artists have to deal with that. you cant just praise artists for everything. they have to know when they screwed up and that they sometimes didnt reach their own quality level. except it was done poorly on purpose. then it was just a dick move to make a quick buck from the die hard fans.
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
Most of that comment is legit, constructive criticism. Some of it is accusatory, yes, but that doesn’t make the criticism any less true. And last time I checked, constructive criticism was a good thing.
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I’d say BP’s comment was plenty respectful. He wasn’t swearing up a storm and readily articulated the criticisms he had about the image. There’s always room to improve, but it can’t be done if all anyone receives is praise.
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@Dookin Foof Lord  
Well free speech is fine tbh but there are things not nice to say of course
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Rule #1 Respect artists and their artwork
 
If you dont like it dont say anything at all.
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