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They’re apparently planning to have two male characters as part of the main cast, just not of the main six. So if that ends up happening, there would be a main cast of eight – six girls and two guys.
 
I’d assume one of the guys would be Spike (there has better be a Spike in G5!), but who knows who or what the second guy might be.
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I don’t want to sound repetitive (pretty sure I’ve said it before), but I wonder if the production team will convince Meghan to make one of the main characters a sea pony or change the gender of two of them. I wouldn’t be complaining if we had two males in the Mane Six!
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@Malvolio  
… Seriously, have none of you ever seen a heroes journey before? Watch Star Wars? Anything?
 
Cause this shit is so blindingly obvious. “Seemingly powerless character turning out to be overpowered chosen hero” has been done to death, and I’m frankly baffled that no one else seems to GET IT HERE!
 
Here, let me repost something:
 
@Darth Sonic  
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Why yes, you get the archetype I was going for!
I’m pretty sure this is why they’re likely going for EP Twilight. Earth Ponies are as close to mundane and ordinary as Ponies. Thus, being an Earth Pony who grew up in a small Earth Pony town with the other two tribes literal worlds away is the perfect place for Twilight to begin her Hero’s Journey.
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Earth Pony World is the Ordinary World. Unicorn World, Pegasus World, and all the other Worlds are collectively the Special World. Thus, Earth Pony Twilight Sparkle.
Hell, I’m going to make a prediction, and say Twilight starts off as a Blank Flank at the very beginning of the series (with the fact that she was still a Blank Flank as a full grown mare being a central part of her backstory; expect lots of woobie flashbacks of her getting bullied). Getting her CM will be her Supernatural Aid, preceded by her meeting with a Pegasus or Unicorn as her Call to Adventure (probably Dashie; she seems to be the perfect sort for this role).
I’m honestly a little baffled that more people didn’t pick up on this as soon as it was revealed G5 was going the serialized route.
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It actually does make me feel better, if it is a piece of art then I want it as detailed as possible like any one else but for the canon show make it simpler and set a lower base line is better as we can leave creative to the artists rather, opening all more room to work.
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I’m a woman too. But I remember how Lauren Faust fought for girly not meaning bad and I think she’s right. Also we’ve had successful animated series made by women that have “girly” designs that are successful with children and adults of all sexes: Steven Universe, Star Vs. The Forces of Evil, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. If these shows can do it, I think G5 can do it too.
 
And I honestly think these leaked designs had some links to realism. Pinkie’s design reminds me of a piebald horse, AJ’s reminds me of a paint horse, and Twilight kind of reminds me of a Clydesdale. Rainbow Dash is the only one who comes off as unnatural to me.
 
If it makes you feel any better, these designs are a bit too complicated to be animated for a TV series and the staff doesn’t like how complicated they are. Their final designs will likely be more simplified than this.
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now THAT’S a step up
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I just want to state I am a woman, 22 years old, so when I say it is to girly I really mean too much, the good thing about the design now is that it’s realistic, fur is a colour or two max then the mane and tails is separeted and wings are same colour as fur all realistic (as amazing as it may sound) now these new designs are literally ALL IN in fantasy.
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I get that but based on what a lot of us seen in the leaks, they’re actually aimed for an older audience compared to G4. They want this show to be similar to Gravity Falls and the Duck Tales reboot.
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okay. i know where the girly comments are coming from, and I can translate for those who might not understand. this puts the show in danger of becoming more saccharine and less in depth, thus making it less enjoyable for older audiences. As for the image, I don’t see anything wrong with this character design, but I fear for AJ. I can see her character becoming more and more bland for the sake of pleasing the censors.
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Until around 2019 or 2020. They brought this up as early as 2014.
 
As for the girly comment, girly doesn’t mean bad. A show can be girly and appeal to children while still being good due to care put into the characters and writing.
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But seriously since it will be a new and different universe, and they look even more childish and girly(fantasy) now… at least before making art for them was nice since they looked “natural” as if the world could be if real.
 
I’m disappointed, I’m in this since the begin of season 1, I have invested a lot of money and time on so much related to mlp, I do feel upset… how long will g4 still survive?
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  1. They can go the Zecora route and have her use magic through potions instead of standard unicorn magic. Scrolls, chants, wands, etc. There’s other ways outside of the unicorn horn.
  2. They could give Earth Ponies magic (granted they already have some in canon already, but this show could give them different powers).
Or they can make Twilight interested in science rather than magic, like Sci-Twi.
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I meant story wise.
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I agree with you on Rarity, Fluttershy, and Pinkie Pie.
 
How can you write an interesting plot for non-magic related Main Character?
 
  1. They can go the Zecora route and have her use magic through potions instead of standard unicorn magic. Scrolls, chants, wands, etc. There’s other ways outside of the unicorn horn.  
  2. They could give Earth Ponies magic (granted they already have some in canon already, but this show could give them different powers).
     
Rainbow Dash looks like a bad kind of lesbian.
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Rarity still best pony.
 
AJ has a terrible color palette.
 
What’s the point of Twilight if she’s not a Unicorn? How can you write an interesting plot for non-magic related Main Character?
 
Rainbow Dash looks like a bad kind of lesbian.
 
Only Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie are an improvement. Flying Pinkie should be a comedic relief incarnate.
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Eh, the Marvel Multiverse is rather simple, just really big.
 
The DC Multiverse, on the other hand?
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Now a days, what big fandom doesn’t? Even big video games like Zelda and Pokemon are doing it.
 
I honestly don’t think it’s too hard to grasp, but then again, I’m kind of into Transformers myself so that’s probably my bias showing. (Also I tend to just gravitate on the stuff there that I really like while casually dabbling into the other stuff once in a while so I guess that might help make things less confusing too.)
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Everything we know for now is that the production team likes big and expressive eyes, simplicity in the design’s language, little wings on pegasi’s legs and “playing” with things such as mane styles and body shapes. We also know that they don’t like very skinny legs, furry hooves, exaggeratedly equine features, long/reptilianly snouts, too humanoid features (such as short, round muzzles and rounded cheeks), overly cartoony explorations and excessively detailed designs. Maybe knowing these things, we can try to trace how G5 is gonna be visually!
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Goodness, and I thought Marvel’s multiverse was overly byzantine.
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Might be. I’m sure Hasbro would at least consider it if they had reason to believe they’d profit from it. I confess I’m not overly familiar with how the Transformers franchise works, though.
 
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Hmm. It does look a bit like clown makeup, now that I think about it.
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It is just me, that Pinkie pie face design look like the joker if you look from far away. Don’t get me wrong, I’m okay with her design
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You can not compare G4 to the old ones, every thing that is current in this fandom originated with g4, its weight is much bigger.
That is objectively false. G4 has carried over a lot of elements – characters, species, worldbuilding elements – from the previous generations, both G1 and G3, which have clearly had their impact on its current development. G4 wouldn’t be what it is now if it had started as a truly blank slate, rather than an incarnation of something with a longer history.
Even as far as the fandom itself goes, why do you think so many people were excited to see Tirek and Scorpan in the show? Why do you think so many people have wanted Grogar to be in it, too? And for that matter, why do so many fan works use Grogar and Catrina and Hydia as villains, and Tirek too before the Season 4 finale? Why is the headcanon that G1 is G4’s distant past so popular? Why was the headcanon that Firefly is Rainbow Dash’s mom so popular?
G4 did not originate in a vacuum: its creators drew on MLP’s previous history and themes when they made it, and many of its fans were either fans of previous MLP gens or came to like them afterwards. When you look at the franchise as a whole, you do need to consider how generations besides G4 have worked and how reboots typically work… and the proposed G4 -> G5 reboot is by all appearances a fairly typical one. A lot of things will carry over, a lot will be reinvented or introduced or discarded, and like every other gen it will not share continuity with eh others.
Gravity Falls was an excellent cartoon.
 
Don’t know about that. I can easily seen Hasbro giving MLP a Transformers style multiverse now that it has become popular with nerds.
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You can not compare G4 to the old ones, every thing that is current in this fandom originated with g4, its weight is much bigger.
 
That is objectively false. G4 has carried over a lot of elements – characters, species, worldbuilding elements – from the previous generations, both G1 and G3, which have clearly had their impact on its current development. G4 wouldn’t be what it is now if it had started as a truly blank slate, rather than an incarnation of something with a longer history.
 
Even as far as the fandom itself goes, why do you think so many people were excited to see Tirek and Scorpan in the show? Why do you think so many people have wanted Grogar to be in it, too? And for that matter, why do so many fan works use Grogar and Catrina and Hydia as villains, and Tirek too before the Season 4 finale? Why is the headcanon that G1 is G4’s distant past so popular? Why was the headcanon that Firefly is Rainbow Dash’s mom so popular?
 
G4 did not originate in a vacuum: its creators drew on MLP’s previous history and themes when they made it, and many of its fans were either fans of previous MLP gens or came to like them afterwards. When you look at the franchise as a whole, you do need to consider how generations besides G4 have worked and how reboots typically work… and the proposed G4 -> G5 reboot is by all appearances a fairly typical one. A lot of things will carry over, a lot will be reinvented or introduced or discarded, and like every other gen it will not share continuity with eh others.
 
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Gravity Falls was an excellent cartoon.
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Never really understood the filthy mud pony meme. Earth Ponies have been shown multiple times to have their own skills in the show (mostly with connections with nature as well as huge bouts of physical strength).
 
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Pretty much. Discord’s doing presumably.