@Background Pony #A4DE
It's fine
They likely didn't actually pay $500

@Ventress
AY MANGO FUCKER 1v1 ME AND MY HORSE FINAL DESTINATION FOX ONLY TOMORROW AT THE FLAGPOLE. BE THERE OR BE SQUARE (side note your Oc is cool, would fight in a comm or stuff)

@redweasel

@Masque Raccoon
And thus the power of horse pussy unites us all. ;)

@Masque Raccoon

I'm not… disagreeing with… well yeah, best not to argue about it.

@redweasel

Completely disagree, but I can see you've got an opinion on the matter that I'm unlikely to change.

@Masque Raccoon

no, it is a one-time cost. of course we're paying for it. how it works is you can spend 38 hours studying something, and you expect to pump out at least a dozen more pictures using what you mastered, so each of those gets 1/12 of the one-time cost, on top of what it cost you individually.

then you mark it up to $500 b/c people love le-art to be expensive and laugh all the way to the bank.

@redweasel

@Oliver_Horsecock

of course it could take 38 hours to get good enough to draw something like this, but that's a one-time cost, not per-picture.

It's really not. You're paying for that expertise.

@redweasel
Ah, gotcha. In that case that sounds about right.

@SuperSupermario24

yeah I was more thinking about specific techniques like "I can already draw, so how to draw couches/folds in cloth/pussy/fir trees/messy hair/hooves/frost"

@redweasel
I'd say it'd probably take longer than that to go from nothing to being good enough to draw this, but 38 hours just to draw this does seem like a vast overestimation.

I agree though, regardless of how much it cost or how long it took to draw, this is quality batpon that we should just appreciate for what it is.

@Oliver_Horsecock

I think you're vastly overestimating how long it takes to draw something. if it took them 38 hours to draw this, they really need to find a better technique, because it should be possible to draw this in like… even 9 hours seems like a lot.

of course it could take 38 hours to get good enough to draw something like this, but that's a one-time cost, not per-picture.

@Oliver_Horsecock
$500 is actually considered cheap if you join the big boy's league on YCH. An example would be a YCH that went up to $900, and the tip was $200. But let's all stop talking about the price or people's economic standing and enjoy some horse pussy.

If you think about it, a good job pays, like, $13 USD an hour or more. I mean, I never made more than $9/hr getting fucked by my employers to work my ass off for my customers and get treated like shit on all fronts despite being a good employee doing the job as well as anyone reaaonably could, but that's irrelevant. $500/13 comes out to 38 hours, which is probably roughly the amount of time spent on this piece, give or take several hours. Seems like a fair price to me, not that I could ever afford it in my wildest dreams, but I know a rich fucker who probably buys artwork 20 times that price now and then.

@Background Pony #138E

Uhhhhhh…. What? Seriously, are you trolling are is this like… for real?

@Background Pony #B7F5

@Background Pony #6ABE
Alas, the world of Clop , why must there be violence?!

@Naughtypony2010
Yeah, I'd have something to say about that too.

@Background Pony #B7F5
In nice reasonable words v
@Background Pony #6ABE
The artists won't allow edits of their original artwork

@Background Pony #6ABE
How about we don't, and ignore your obsession with some random OC, and forget your stupid comment.

Deal? Deal.

I hope someone makes a Kate edit of this

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oooh, nice and cozy. the firelight looks so warm.

@Vox

It's not a "trap." Yes, this artwork is a luxury. And if you look at the furry fandom, people who have the money will pay significant amounts for good art.

I'm not arguing every artist should be charging exorbitant amounts. But many artists charge less than minimum wage per hour they're working on these pieces, and that's tragic.

@Masque Raccoon
The problem is whether or not their audience would actually pay more, which really boils down to what people are getting, not just how much work goes into it. It's important to remember that these are strictly luxuries and most people can't actually afford the amount commissionees could charge for their work. These aren't commercial illustrations where the buyer profits off of their use.

Think of it this way: A painstakingly hand-carved ice sculpture could require many dozens of high-skill hours to complete, but if all you want is a Christmas ornament for your lawn, would you pay the hundreds or thousands of dollars it'd be worth by measure of the work that went in? Even if it was very pretty, could you justify putting your money into such an ephemeral thing instead of necessary food or other living expenses?

Unless you're unusually wealthy, or fiscally irresponsible, the answer to the above will almost certainly be no; what it's worth by a single measurement isn't necessarily what it's actually worth to its buyers, so raising prices on commissions can easily mean artists make less money than they would if we keep our prices accessible. That balance is something artists need to keep in mind before they fall into the trap of thinking their commissions are "underpriced".

Oh my god this is amazing. <3