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Background Pony #6FA0
@MrSeyker
It just doesn’t make sense to me for her to lie about a five-second cameo saying a perfunctory line that could have been filled with any background pony in armor; it seems much more likely to me that she would’ve given the standard "I can’t give away what happens in future episodes; you’ll have to wait and see" brushoff.
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@Background Pony #37E5

Writers mislead fans constantly, so I wouldn’t put it past them. Specially if the VOICED cameo was meant to be a surprise nod for fans of the sister franchise.

I can buy an animator sneaking the Flash Sentry asset without anyone else knowing in the background.

But sneaking him in a speaking role requires the work of the animators, the voice director and the actor.

That is a coordinated effort, the writer might br excluded if the script was nondescript on who was meant to speak.

But everyone that came later and contributed to a speaking cameo made it knowingly.
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Background Pony #37E5
@wildrook
Ah, OK then. I’m just getting kinda tired of people claiming it’s illogical to consider EqD canon.

@MrSeyker
@cloudkicker108
If the script specifies the speaker only as "Crystal Guard #1", then the appearance and voice of the speaker is out of the writers’ hands; I think someone verified at one point that that’s what happened here, but I don’t have the citation so it’s basically speculation. But don’t you think it would be really weird for McCarthy to be saying Dreamy Cutebottom wouldn’t appear in season 4 so shortly after she wrote him into the season finale?
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@MrSeyker
I was actually referring to his appearance before that, where he accompanied Cadence on the crystal train to Ponyville. He was only on screen for a few seconds and had no lines. Regardless, the fact that he showed up in the season 4 finale at all still contradicts McCarthy’s tweet about him. Moreover, the Flash we saw in both instances was the pony world Flash, not the EQG Flash, which only brought up more debate about whether or not he actually serves as evidence that EQG is canon.
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@Swashbucklist
@marik_azemus34
For a few scattered individuals, there is something to lose. If there’s an odd spinoff that ruins their immersion of a show they love, they should not be forced to accept it. Whether or not you people think they’re ridiculous for hating EG doesn’t mean jack.

None of us ever claimed that individuals who dislike EQG were ridiculous for simply disliking EQG. If they want to dislike the series, they are by all means welcome to. What is ridiculous, however, is having to establish separate scenarios where EQG is both canon and non-canon simply because those select few individuals are too headstrong to simply accept EQG as canon and move on with their lives. As we’ve already mentioned before, chances are the show will introduce elements of EQG (which will probably only be every now and then anyway) in a manner in which the viewer will not have to be involved with ore even be aware of the EQG series. The immersion is not going to be broken.

@cloudkicker108
Firstly, I fucking told you: Celestia-damned humans or a fucking high school! Secondly, it’s still not about what I need. I’ve always accepted that EG is canon, and you know darn well that my argument has always been about accommodating the few who may not want to (at least until you people pushed me too far into a defensive mindset). It’s obvious that proving people wrong is more important to you than simply letting them have their way, but guess what? Nobody cares how silly you think they are.

Calm down. No need to start throwing around profanity. First, how is that any different from the Dazzlings appearing on screen? In both cases, content exclusive to the EQG series is being shown. Second, why should we have to specially accommodate those few individuals who have been proven wrong by the facts and are only held back by their own stubbornness? I am not trying to prove people wrong just to prove people wrong; I am trying point out to them that their way of thinking is flawed.
Background Pony #B434
@Swashbucklist
I’ll be honest, I’m still unsure what the point you’ve been trying to get across even is due to how odd some of what you’ve said sounds.
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@marik_azemus34
For a few scattered individuals, there is something to lose. If there’s an odd spinoff that ruins their immersion of a show they love, they should not be forced to accept it. Whether or not you people think they’re ridiculous for hating EG doesn’t mean jack.

@cloudkicker108
What more do you need?

Firstly, I fucking told you: Celestia-damned humans or a fucking high school! Secondly, it’s still not about what I need. I’ve always accepted that EG is canon, and you know darn well that my argument has always been about accommodating the few who may not want to (at least until you people pushed me too far into a defensive mindset). It’s obvious that proving people wrong is more important to you than simply letting them have their way, but guess what? Nobody cares how silly you think they are.
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Background Pony #37E5
@wildrook
Or you guys are just trying to feel better about being wrong.
>statements from showrunners that EqG is "canon"
>appearances of EqG characters in FiM
>reference to EqG in a script written by current showrunner
I don’t begrudge you your alternative definition of "canon", but you might want to consider how ridiculous statements like the one I quoted make you look.

Or not. I’ve noticed a marked trend the last few years of not caring how much "They" are able to mock and undermine brazen claims, as long as "We" can get fired up by them.
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@marik_azemus34
There is nothing to gain from EQG not being non-canon, and nothing to lose from it being canon. Odds are we’re going to continue to see references to it in the future, which would only serve to enforce it being canon. I urge you all who are determined to believe it is not canon to keep an open mind. Think about the possibilities that arise from calling on EQG’s story elements. It’s not like the shows will become one and the same, it’s just a coexistence that can enhance the main show and reward fans who watch both.

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