@Background Pony #B434  
Only more evidence then, that her tweets by themselves are not enough to prove EQG canon.

@cloudkicker108  
Actually, from what I saw, it seemed she put it like that because she was not entirely sure what the word “canon” meant.

@Swashbucklist  
Those “characters” were EQG exclusives that were explicitly mentioned as such on the script, and the scene they appeared in lines up perfectly to with the explanation of their banishment to the EQG-verse we were given in Rainbow Rocks. What more do you need?
 
@Swashbucklist  
@Background Pony #37E5  
@Background Pony #B434  
The problem with that statement from McCarthy is that it comes in response to the question “Is Equestria Girls canon with MLP: FiM?”. If her intention was indeed to confirm EQG’s canonicity, why not just respond with a simple “yes”? Why add that extra condition? It seems she’s trying to intentionally keep things vague so she’ll have some wiggle room in case Hasbro changes plans on her. On its own, then, McCarthy’s tweets are hardly irrefutable proof that EQG is canon. Mind you, she also tweeted after the first EQG movie that Flash Sentry wouldn’t be in season 4, and yet he was (albeit as a cameo and probably inserted as a joke by one of the artists). That said, when we combine them with the appearance of the Dazzlings in “Shadow Play” (and on the episode’s transcript), we now have very solid evidence that the EQG-verse is in fact canon to the show.

@Swashbucklist  

 
Please don’t tell me you actually believe that.

@marik_azemus34  
“Yes, in that Twi had this experience and learned something from it.”
 
Ah, now we’re finally getting somewhere! Character development is a much more solid argument than cloudkicker’s, “the characters were there so that’s proof”, and I’d forgotten about how EG affected Twilight’s growth into a Princess. Thankyou, marik, that’s an actual argument. If someone had started with that crap, this would’ve ended a long time ago.
 
edit [after reading remaining comments]: And once again, Spinny has a clearer perspective than the rest of us.

I’m sorry, but elements established in EQG showing up in FIM and word of god from several showrunners make EQG unquestionably canon. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t affect the season plots in any significant way, that’s not a requirement for something to be canon.
 
You can totally take that loophole and continue to ignore EQG’s existance to your heart’s content so long the status quo persits. It’s why it was built into the franchise, to keep people from being triggered by humans being a thing in G4. But you do not get to exploit the loophole to declare non-canon.

@Spinny  
Thanks for illustrating my comment so nicely. Though I do want to point something out:

From years ago when she was head writer for both FiM and EqG, which means those tweets are about as official as any Word of God statement from show staff can get.

@Spinny  
It’s not like FiM calls back to every episode it’s had though.
 
Is every episode that isn’t called back to not canon until it’s been called back to?  
_{And I’d argue that the tweets sort of proved it since years ago McCarthy was the show runner so…}

@marik_azemus34  

 
I refer to it as, “canon by opinion.”
 
We still don’t have the irrefutable proof that anything specifically related to EG ever happened. Flash Sentry did not prove this, the Sirens did not prove this, and McCarthy’s tweets from years ago sure as hell did not prove this.
 
FiM is going to go on acting as though EG does not exist. So what does it matter whether it’s canon or non-canon?

My question for those who claim that EqG isn’t canon would be this: Are the Twilight Sparkle and Spike we see in the first Equestria Girls movie the same Twilight Sparkle and Spike we’ve spent seven seasons with in the show? I don’t think anyone would deny that (well, except for those who claim the Twilight and Spike we see in the show now aren’t the same as the Twilight and Spike of the first two seasons), and to me, that’s sufficient to make EqG canon to the show. Nearly everyone who still argues that it’s not canon, I believe, is using a different definition of “canon”, one that probably requires the events of the EqG franchise to have an effect on FiM in the same manner that events in FiM have an effect on EqG. I don’t think that’s a good or useful definition of “canon”, personally, but in this relativistic age, I know better than to believe I could persuade someone who thinks otherwise.

@Swashbucklist  

 
You owe me another new desk. You have no idea how hard my forehead struck it.  
_{This is a yes/no style situation, not a “What’s your favorite flavor?” type deal.}
 
So yeah, dude, no duh that’s frustrating.

so sad they had to go

@Swashbucklist  
 
Something cannot be both canon and non-canon. Let’s look at what we have.
 
 
 
Flash Sentry in Three’s A Crowd and Twilight’s Kingdom
 
 
Meghan McCarthy, one of the most important higher-ups in the show staff, saying it’s canon
 
 
The script explicitly referring to the sirens in the above being the Dazzlings
 
And, of course, what we see during the events of Shadow Play. And yet the goalposts are constantly being moved after each piece of evidence that Equestria Girls is canon.
 
Fans do not get to decide what is canon and what’s not. The creators do. There is more than enough for us to know that Equestria Girls is canon. This is not like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction, in which it’s up to us to decide what’s inside, nor is it like the ending shots in The Shining and Inception that can be interpreted differently. I can’t say that Darth Vader being Luke Skywalker’s father is ‘up to interpretation,’ because I’ve been shown plenty of reason to believe he is Luke’s father.
 
Creator decides. Creator has decided that Equestria Girls is canon. We have no right to refute their creative decision.

@Background Pony #B434  
Oh yes, it must be so very frustrating to be told that two disagreeing parties can both be right.

@Swashbucklist  
You think you’re the only one who feels flustered in these comments? Anyway, you don’t honestly believe McCarthy’s tweets were explicit and subject to only one interpretation, do you?

@Swashbucklist  
This is starting to get into gaslighting territory. I’m just not sure whose doing the gaslighting…

@Swashbucklist  
You’ll only get a new desk if you get everyone you caused to violently headdesk replacements for theirs.

@cloudkicker108  

 
You owe me a new desk. You have no idea how hard my forehead struck it.

@Swashbucklist  
There has been a change. This is the first time we’ve gotten unambiguous confirmation of EQG’s canonicity to the show. Obviously people who don’t like EQG aren’t mandated to start enjoying or even care about the spin-off series now, but their dislike is not reason to say that EQG could still be non-canon.

@cloudkicker108  
THERE IS NO CHANGE. But they don’t have to accept it if they prefer not to! How many times must I repeat this before you get it? It’s no waste of brain cells.

@Background Pony #B270  
So it would seem. It’s honestly sad sometimes how resistant people are to change.

@cloudkicker108  
That’s not good enough for some, though  
They hate EqG so much that the fact that it actually occurred in the timeline ruins everything for them

@Swashbucklist  
The easiest to not waste brain cells would be, as Marik pointed out, to accept it all as canon instead of trying to create both canon and non-canon scenarios. As for Spinny, his main point is simply that the show will never require viewers to watch or even have knowledge of EQG despite the spin-off series now being canon to the show; he never suggested that there specifically be an option for EQG to be non-canon.

@cloudkicker108  
I was agreeing with the “why waste other peoples’ brain cells” part. At least Spinny gets it.

@Background Pony #137A  
Yes, but those are safe assumptions to make, because the scene itself is a shout out to the Sirens’ fate from EqG. We’ve seen them, we saw Starswirl banishing them. Given the show has actually shown us the events that put the Dazzlings in the human world to begin with and that the writers have outright said EqG was canon, I’m not sure what more you need.