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RedTriangle
@Gouranga 2

When you mentioned Great Britain/United Kingdom/British Isles being "multicultural" with it’s own native ethnics: British, Welsh, Irish, and Scottish. I just want to say that does sound ’diverse’ for a tiny island(s).
And let’s not forgot there are other European ethnics whom migrated to the British Isles and stayed there for centuries as if their own home. Say, those of Vikings origin for one.

No offense on the "tiny island" part.
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Background Human, I’ve noticed how you only respond to me. Why? Do I threaten you? Is there something specific about me you don’t like to the point where you’ve the absolute inability not to vomit your factless, off-handed, non-argumentative, rhetorical, ad-hominem verbal diarrhea?

Bare in mind that this is the last response you’ll get from me. As I said: I’m not fond of wasting my time.
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Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

CHS, Class of 20XX
@Tetragrammaton Cleric
Concerning glorification, those of who know do not glorify it; we merely point out a glorious thing. Love him or hate him, the recovery to which he lead Germany was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, economic, financial, military, and cultural recoveries in world history ever.
Then he pissed it all away fighting the entire world and made Germany lose its sovereignty for 45 years. But he did kill Hitler, which has to count for something.
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The consensus of "most people (media, school, books, teachers, ect.)" doesn’t make it factually and certainly not morally correct. I think President John F. Kennedy said this, (please correct me if I’m wrong) "A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it. The truth is still the truth, even if no one believes it."

Concerning glorification, those of who know do not glorify it; we merely point out a glorious thing. Love him or hate him, the recovery to which he lead Germany was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, economic, financial, military, and cultural recoveries in world history ever.

Germany was starving and downtrodden after World War One, (a war they were actually winning on almost all fronts until certain embedded (((politicians))) sold them out, their controlled media making the populace believe that they were losing) a simple loaf of bread costing up to 500,000 marks. (318,637 dollars) Whole suitcases weren’t even big enough to hold that much!

Hitler fought those (((politicians,))) and in so doing realized that they usually had two distinct common traits: They were communists. They were Jewish. With this in mind, designed his mark, the swastika, (originally a hindu symbol meaning "good fortune") to scare the commies as he fought against them, bringing the attention of the general public to their brutal antics with his speeches. He also strove not to kill the jews, but to relocate them to Palestine, (reference the Havaara Transfer agreement) dismantling the monopoly they had there, freeing his people.

He basically gave them Israel back, for God’s sake!

Concerning his attack on Poland, their was a strip of polish land that lay between most of Germany and Prussia, (East Germany) and when the world saw the recovery of the German people, not only did the jewish mega banks and multinational corporations boycott all German goods, but the bolsheviks in Poland started butchering Prussian natives.

There were thousands who lost their lives in gang-raids and mass-rapes.

Seeing this, Hitler tried to relocate the Prussians as refugees away from the mass-murdering, only to be met with fierce resistance in his efforts. He even asked Poland’s permission to lay down a railroad through the Polish strip of land to get to the, but they refused on the (((controlled))) words of the allies, who were by now looking for a reason go to war with the Germany.

They bird-dogged him into attacking them, and with his hands tied, he fell right into their trap. Watching your people be mercilessly slaughtered and raped down to the last child, what would you have done?

I’ll go on addressing your points if you want me to, but this comment is already too long.
RedTriangle
@Tetragrammaton Cleric

And another thing, don’t you think White Nationalists kind of romanitizes and glorifying Hitler and Nazism much? Just because people having a bad time and seek out role models or sense of belonging, but why Nazis? Most people (media, schools, books, teachers, etc.) say Nazis is bad.

Even if Nazis are not all bad as we told they are, they still kind of did some bad things, like the Invasion of Poland, Occupaction of France, Air raids on Britain, attempted invasions of Russia.

Whatever ‘good reasons’, in my opinion, you can’t use violence or start trouble to solve problems. Just like the Iraq War.

Besides, haven’t Nazi Germany reason or do peace talks with other European nations about the ‘Jewish problem’ and ‘pan-European solidarity’?
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@Background Human
While cultures may come and go as time whithers them away, they are but biological expressions of particular groups (memes.) Take away the people the people, and you take away the memes. In particular, these people are worried about displacement and they ought to, because they are right. The division only comes along on whether or not that is celebrated or feared. Midnight gets darker as the light dims.
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RedTriangle
@Tetragrammaton Cleric

I’ll admit, I was reading and audiobook-listening Mein Kampf (Ford Translation) but far as few first chapters mostly on Hitler’s childhood and early adulthood.

Though I shouldn’t brag but I making a questionnaire or a quiz according to that book. It helps me take notes too.

Please note that I am not a Hitler or National-Socialist or Nazi fan, just study for my leisure than political reasons.
I already read The Communist Manifesto, though I hardly learn anything. But it inspired me one thing: welfare should be for workers, not jobless free-loaders. The book did say "workers", but of course, it’s my interpretation.
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RedTriangle
@Gouranga 2

I really wish there’s a way to restore and protect European Western culture and identity.
Though I am Asian, Western culture is my culture.

I always taught how non-White cultures need protecting but even I realize White cultures need protecting as well, or I’d be a hypocrite.

Pardon me, I am one of those naive people despite my good common sense.

The thing is, we Asians live in the West and we don’t cause any trouble and ‘endangering’ your culture, not the general population to my knowledge. We assimilated, so assimilated that we adopt Western names and some even converted to Christianity.

Whatever reasons other White Nationalists see us as a ‘threat’, as assure you, or at least for me, we mean no harm; we come in peace.
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Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

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@Gouranga 2
A culture isn’t some monolithic entity, eternal and unchanging. It’s millions of people over thousands of years, and every single one of them makes their own irrevocable contribution to it. The only way to "preserve" a culture is the way you preserve any living thing: by killing it.
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Duck - "You know, I could make an SJW statement about how your attitude towards Hitler’s suicide triggers me"

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@RedTriangle
That’s the same argument the British had "Look how many cultures we have! We have Scots, Irish, Welsh, so multicultural!"
Look at them today. The country’s practically Muslim at this point. You have to actively look for a white Christian in London to find one. Multiculturalism is horrifying, it destroys a country’s entire traditions, heritage, culture! Our culture matters too you know! God dammit I shouldn’t have to actively look for my own people’s culture! This should be taught in school! Either you adhere to the country’s culture when you migrate there, or you don’t migrate at all. That’s how it was since the dawn of time, I don’t understand why since the 80’s this is suddenly so foreign of a concept for the average person.

There’s no "friendly" cultures, don’t you get it, if foreigners don’t have the country’s best interests at heart then they don’t belong in that foreign country! I don’t want Japan to lose it’s identity because a bunch of retards like the word "Multiculturalism" there, whether Japan adheres to European or African culture I couldn’t care less! Tourism’s fine! But to be an activist for forcing your culture into another country? At the expense of that country’s own heritage?
Not to mention let in foreigners when we can barely find housing for our own people?
Giving free passes to qualified foreigners because it’s easier than fixing your country’s education system?
Giving foreigners special benefits after you let them in because "They feel so oppressed"?
Letting said foreigner’s children tear down statues of your own heritage?
Letting said foreigner’s children spit on your own heritage?

It never stops! Why would you think it would ever stop?? Multiculturalism doesn’t stop! You can’t just draw the line once you let it in, because once you do, the foreigners will have kids, then the kids will say "I was born here you have no rights over me!" Then because you didn’t enforce your culture on the foreigners, they’ll teach their kids the native country’s culture, and soon enough you end up like today. Congrats.
Culture isn’t just about history books, it’s about traditions, the way we act.. The way we live.
I may speak as if we’re about to lose it, but no. We already lost it. I just hope that other wonderful cultures won’t go down the drain too.
But wishful thinking will only take you so far.
RedTriangle
@Gouranga 2

Actually, I’m Chinese-American, born and raised in the US.

I’m not sure if I ever take Japanese side of WW2, I believe in their Pan-Asian ideals, we Chinese would have joined them IF they hadn’t bombed our cities. In my opinion, the WW2 Japanese say that just for their own gain.

But I still believe in Asian unity but this time equal partnership.

I do believe in multiculturalism, actually more like Western and Asian culture, other cultures can join only if they are friendly.

China is somewhat multicultural, there are many different ethnicity varies region to region.
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Duck - "You know, I could make an SJW statement about how your attitude towards Hitler’s suicide triggers me"

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@RedTriangle
Just for entertainment value..
You brought the subject of US influence in Asia, (I’m not American) that’s funny to me, that was Hirohito’s argument in the 1930’s, he had this idea of an Asian alliance against American imperialism, hence the invasion of China, to push back American and Soviet supported troops and "liberate Asia"..
I wonder if today at this moment you’d take Japan’s side in WWII or China’s side, whichever side you could consider "China’s side" then..
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Duck - "You know, I could make an SJW statement about how your attitude towards Hitler’s suicide triggers me"

Literally Glim Glam
@RedTriangle
I don’t wanna get too involved in the conversation.. but replying to what was referred to me, White Nationalists (ethno-nationalists) only care about preserving the white race (white culture is dead and gone by now, skin color is all we got left) If you listen to people like Jared Taylor (born in Japan) he speaks of accepting the IQ differences between races.. It doesn’t even touch on the Jews or Muslims. That’s a whole another thing.
I understand it’s a lot of information for people..
And often confusing, because you have people within the alt-right with different opinions, and people outside who knows only part of the story.
I think the best perspective I can give is the same as yours, you’d want China to stay China right? You wouldn’t want forced multiculturalism, well nobody does, the alt-right is a reaction to multiculturalism. A reaction to seeing white identity being just a memory.
Fitting Jews and Muslims into that comes from a whole other concept.. a different view of the world, that most people within the alt-right (the strongest white nationalist movement) don’t even touch, because that’s not what white nationalism is about.. I feel like this conversation has had the wrong foundations..

Sorry for my broken English.
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RedTriangle
My racial nationalist ideals for Asians is not entirely politically or socially but rather spiritual or religious or cultural.
I like to believe that preserving our Asian identity and traditions are also preserving our ancestors’ legacy.
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RedTriangle
@Tetragrammaton Cleric

I wasn’t always been political or a ‘racial nationalist’ and I would become what I am without a help of a right-wing Chinese/Taiwanese friend here in Derpibooru, everything what I am now is a matter of luck and time of learning.

The reasons I didn’t become fully SJW is that I avoid the news, I believe it’s full of yellow journalism, aka “fake news”, whatever the news or its intention long before 2016. All they want is people’s attention and viewership and drive them crazy.

Because I’m an art major in college, I took very classes with Leftist teachers.
I took a logic course in college where I learn to become unbiased.
Few years before that awful 2016, I study Ancient Greece and Western culture and I love it. It’s a good thing “Cultural Marxist” ideals didn’t get to me first.

Back when Bush was president, I was loosing faith and patriotism for USA, you know what I did? I watched The Liberty Kids to feel patriotic.

I am a Liberal but not a SJW is I unintentionally hide myself from the outside world.

I don’t do social media and that Regressive Leftist propaganda didn’t get to me. I’m old-fashioned.

There are countless moments in my life that could have lead me to become a person different from what I am now.
Fortunately, with luck and my morals and common sense, I am the person what you see before you. (Not a SJW for one)

But all I want is to be an artist.
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@RedTriangle

Oh, I know. I don’t remember who it was who said it, (One of the ancient Roman leaders) but it goes something like this:

"I fear not the enemy who cries for war, who marches on my people, who bashes at my gates, but the one who calls me ’friend,’ who drinks my wine, who walks my streets, who speaks my tongue."

My ire goes to both republicans and democrats alike; they’re both playing the same game to remain in power. All the live long day, they’ll argue and bicker and proclaim to hate each other, but at its end, they’ll intentionally accomplish nothing for the people they claim to represent, voting them selves into perpetual profit without term limit.

One of them will openly tout policies that I find despicable, underhanded, and unAmerican.

One of them will wrap his arm around my shoulders, smiling through his teeth at me as he promises what we’ve humbly asked for from a limited government, and then he’ll do nothing but get fat off our dime.

When you insinuate that their are moles of globalism heavily invested in both sides, you are preaching to the choir, my friend.

Concerning religion, or in my case a relationship, I am Orthodox Christian, so I might bare fundamental differences to you. For instance, being more "gung-ho," I see Europe and it’s profound and obvious lack of a 2nd Amendment, and I see an entire plethora of cultures about to be pierced through the heart by the Islamic invaders, all at the hands of its globalistic government. After all, without an armed citizenry, what’s to stop their government from simply ignoring the will of its people entirely, imploding it from the inside out, rendering its indigenous people a minority in their last country like the Germans.

Take everything you hear with a grain of salt, even what I say. Do your own research; come to your own conclusions, but in the end, never sacrifice your CULTURE or the FREEDOM to enjoy it.

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