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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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@Ihhh
Yes I fEFF!ing did.

But if that’s what you want

1. Because he’s a fEFF!ing Changeling, that’s what they fEFF! do.

2. The message was wrong from a lore standpoint, plain and simple.

3. It was about a villain’s Heel Face Turn, which in hindsight also happened to Glimmer, Diamond Tiara and, to a lesser degree, Trixie.

I hope you’re fEFFing happy
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No you didn’t. You didn’t address my point about the message of the episode, you didn’t address my point about how having thorax be a traitor would go against that message, and you didn’t address my point about how the episode has nothing in common with Keep Calm and Flutter On. Just because you disagree with me doesn’t mean you can ignore everything I say.
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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@Ihhh
I JUST DID
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@The Toaster Repair Pony
Do you just skim my comments? I gave a whole list of reasons why you were wrong and you ignored every single one of them. Why should I take you seriously when you don’t even address the points I make?
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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I refuse to believe that because there’s no reason that a race of insectoid soul vampires could produce a bleeding heart deserter. It’s just not right.
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Are you not paying attention? Do I have to keep repeating the same points until you get them? The whole point of the times they are a changeling was that people shouldn’t discriminate against thorax just because he’s a changeling, and him being a traitor would have completely gone against that message. And as for Keep Calm and Flutter On, no, this is not the same plot at all. KKaFO was all about reforming discord and teaching him how to be a good friend, TTTAaC was about not assuming every member of a race is evil. Thorax never needed to be reformed because he was already good, so the plots are not the same in the slightest.
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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@Ihhh
Because it’s the fEFF!ing Changelings! Their whole schtick is tricking ponies into doing what they want.
Besides, we already had this plot for Discord.
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You’re not listening to me. Again, having thorax be a traitor would go against the message of the episode. Why is that so hard to understand?
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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@Ihhh
And I’m saying Changelings have a reputation for deception. Perhaps Thorax’s deal was that Chrysalis had hit upon the idea that Ponies, like flies, are easier tempted by honey instead of vinegar.
I mean, come on, it’s right in their name.
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You missed my point. Again, The whole point of that episode was that people shouldn’t discriminate against thorax just because he’s a changeling. Read my comment again.
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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They had every reason to discriminate against Changelings. One good apple doesn’t make up for a barrel of spoiled ones.
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Ok. here’s my argument. It would have ruined the message of the times they are a changeling. The whole point of that episode was that people shouldn’t discriminate against thorax just because he’s a changeling, and him being a traitor would have completely gone against that message.
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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Because it would have fit the invasion plot perfectly. Thorax would be the vanguard preparing for the take-over in earnest. The Genestealer Cult to Chrysalis’ Tyranid Swarm, if you will.
For that matter, there was no indication that the swarm had any issues with their arrangement in the past. A lifetime raised on evil can’t be unraveled by a two minute revelation from a deserter who might not even know what he’s on about.
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You first, mr "I wanted thorax to be a traitor and I can’t accept that I didn’t get my way"
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Good luck with that.
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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How about an actual argument behind that?
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A Perfectly Normal Pony - <TheToasterRepairPony> Social reforms require sacrifice.

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It would have been hilarious in hindsight if Thorax’s Heel-Face turn was a setup for the invasion we got in the finale, and Thorax turned out to be a traitor all along.
But no, the suits needed a new toyline, so out goes one more interesting villain.
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Imagine how well it’d go if the Crystal ponies and the Rubies all met and had to face off in a game of wits.
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The really preposterous thing is that the Crystal Empire guards didn’t take Spike, a national hero, seriously when he said he’d met the changeling. Then they all suddenly trusted him after he sang for a bit, not considering for a second that he might have been a changeling himself despite having mentioned there might be an army of them nearby. Then Cadance offered Thorax her baby.

After this episode, I think even the Rubies from Steven Universe are smarter than anyone native to the Crystal Empire. And more emotionally stable besides that.
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