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>the artist is saying ’i want to celebrate this , who would have a vested interest in doing this also? ah-ha!’  
>not ’im going to take this character and use them for support for my political stance’
 
This is true. That’s all there is to it. I also considered little pip, but I couldn’t very well put him in a sexy swimsuit.
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@TexasUberAlles  
Too expensive. The hats, that is.
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@klystron2010  
The Grim Reaper has been chasing her for the past decade
 
WHY DIDN’T SHE HIRE MORE MEN IN TALL FUZZY HATS?!?
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@TexasUberAlles  
The Grim Reaper has been chasing her for the past decade.
TexasUberAlles
Duck - If report count was a score, he'd have the biggest score
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.

@Elwarrr  
God Save The Queen!
 
oh my gosh is she in some kind of danger full
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iamli3
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@TexasUberAlles  
i see , fascinating , we should talk more…
 
idk what “benighted archipelago” is , so you’ll have to explain what you mean by that…  
idk how much death the uk military is currently involved in , but i can say that it doesn’t justify destroying the people of the uk….
 
what i said still wasn’t a no true scottsman , it’s still rooted in identity politics yes , but it didn’t have anything to say about different ethnic minorities in the uk…..
 
your remarks did make me think even broader about this topic though , and made me realize even more just how crucial understanding the ideas of the no true scottsman is , we should talk more…..
TexasUberAlles
Duck - If report count was a score, he'd have the biggest score
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.

@iamli3  
Gawd, what is with people wanting obvious jokes to be explained lately? I’m making fun of you for going on about “preserving ethnic culture” in a place where the English have spent the better part of the last fifteen hundred years doing their level best to dilute or destroy the ethnic cultures of everyone else on the benighted archipelago. It’s the British equivalent of White people in North America unironically bitching about immigrants.
 
…Speaking of which, yes, your No True Scotsman Englishman argument is based around all those ~ethnic~ immigrants being somehow less than Truly British… as opposed to, y’know, UK citizens now, just like any other except for that one difference that nobody wants to say out loud.
 
brown people the difference is that they’re brown people
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>These comments
 
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@TexasUberAlles  
then what are you talking about?…..
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Duck - If report count was a score, he'd have the biggest score
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.

@iamli3  
No, you have no idea what I’m talking about.
 
…Which is exactly what I’m talking about.
iamli3
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@TexasUberAlles  
look at the demographic numbers for the country  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246288/Census-2011-UK-immigrant-population-jumps-THREE-MILLION-10-years.html  
https://www.rt.com/uk/157012-britain-ethnic-minorities/
 
that’s not a no true scottsman argument
 
you have no idea what you’re talking about…..
TexasUberAlles
Duck - If report count was a score, he'd have the biggest score
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.

@iamli3  
the preservation of their ethnic culture
 
Was anyone ever really trying to stamp out Welsh or Gaelic or Celtic or Sco’ ‘ish or Oirish culture besides the English, though? Sounds like you’re trying to blame Brussels for your tussles when the calls are really coming from inside the House of Lords.
 
every englishman has a vested interest in the celebration of this victory  
That may be, but No True Scotsman does.
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@iamli3  
Not replying to me directly eh? Go home you’re drunk also:
 
>that’s neat , it’s still wrong though since i still don’t identify with any ideology….
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdtKbq3Omkw
iamli3
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>That’s my proof
 
that’s neat , it’s still wrong though since i still don’t identify with any ideology….
 
>proof
 
i asked for proof that people hold both ideologies , and your link only discusses one of them , the part where the people giving those people a platform are of the one ideology =/= they also subscribe to the other one , if you listen to some of those people speak you’ll find they regularly say that they don’t all agree with each other’s viewpoint , and yes even sargon….
 
>she’s a fake character with no agency.  
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@Pinkamena 314  
1 her stance in this discussion had a very circumstantial meaning , but and oh wow i almost missed this , good thing i make my replies nice and thoughtful so as not to make mistakes or miss things…..
 
but if im interpreting this correctly , you completely avoided the substance of my question , unintentionally obviously , cause i almost didn’t even realize that
 
…or did you just concede that you don’t actually think that a person needs to originate from a given country in order to hold a valid political stance about it?….
 
2 perhaps that is best where it ends then , since what i said is not in any way an opinion lol , it is a fact that under the eu the uk did not have national sovereignty , and now they do , there is no ambiguity here…..
 
and k i’ll just link you the source that he covers in his video then….  
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-referendum-results-age-data-young_uk_576cd7d6e4b0232d331dac8f
 
“or, as I like to call him, Naram-Sin of Akkad.”??…..
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@iamli3  
Also she literally needs to be from Earth with an opinion on Brexit to make this not a mouthpiece. Otherwise she’s a fake character with no agency. Also if Ocatvia was British, I’d bet she’d be an EU shill since corporations like Hasbro love the EU and the writers would make her as such.
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yes , and?……..
 
That’s my proof you’re alt-right since it’s a common talking point kek.
 
proof
 
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/24/rise-of-the-cultural-libertarians/
 
Alt right wing site Breitbart praising “cultural libertarians”. Sargy is featured too.
Pinkamena 314
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Pushing Up Violets
  1. I don’t think the political stance of a MLP character is valid regardless of her nationality. However, everyone seems to be using that as a justification for using her here, and I do mean using. This piece exists to exploit the popularity of a canon character to support a political stance, there’s no other way of interpreting it.  
  2. And with that I’m done here. “Liberation”, “preservation”, and “victory” are matters for debate here, unclear opinions, yet you present them as factual. I make a rule of not debating against a stance like that for more than one repetition, since it just goes nowhere in a hurry.  
    Also, I’m not interested in your Carl link, or, as I like to call him, Naram-Sin of Akkad.
iamli3
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@Pinkamena 314  
1 why do you think she needs to be in order for her stance to be valid?….
 
2 the part where great britian was liberated by this event is a fact , it was liberated from the control of the eu
 
the part about the preservation of the english people is multifaceted and also interlinked
 
for the factual sense it is correct that this has happened now that the country has it’s national sovereignty back
 
that is what i was basing my reasoning there off of , every englishman has a vested interest in the celebration of this victory in that manner , doesn’t mean they all care about their own interest in that regard like you point out , just that it’s still there regardless how much a given individual cares about it……
 
>On that note, wouldn’t it qualify as “identity politics” to say that a person isn’t a real Briton unless they support Brexit, regardless of their claims in the matter?
 
it would! it’s a bloody good thing nobody’s saying that isn’t it c; !……
 
(well , nobody here at least , good luna if you look at social media though pro remain people are flipping the fuck out actually advocating to take away people’s democratic rights , THE SAME PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT AND DIED TO GIVE THESE CUNTS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE FIRST PLACE  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyF8vd-8uPc  
bloody hell what a world we live in today eh?……)
iamli3
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@Terrans117  
>Your constant use of regressive against me proves otherwise.
 
i have not attributed the ideology to you , im speaking about the properties of the ideology on it’s own , but apparently you like taking a stick to the dead horse that is nuance….
 
>You made comments complaining about how people are getting called out for being racist or not being able to take pride in being Caucasian ffs.
 
yes , and?……..
 
>And Classical liberals also make up a significant portion of the alt right.
 
im rather doubtful of your claim , got any evidence?….
Pinkamena 314
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Pushing Up Violets
  1. The fanon is that she is of a British-styled ethnic and cultural background. Not that she is literally from England, Earth, The Milky Way Galaxy.  
  2. The opinion you’ve stated as a fact is that celebrating Brexit is equal to celebrating liberation and preservation of the English people. I have a feeling that what you mean to imply here is that all sensible Britons are happy about Brexit, especially since you say much the same in your second reply. “Who would be happy about Brexit? Octavia, obviously, because she’s British”. Except that a vast number of Britons aren’t happy, in fact, they’re angry, believing that this will be a setback and a detriment to the English people. Rightfully so? As I admitted, I don’t know. But you clearly take “supports Brexit” as a default, logical position for anyone from England, which is about as far from the case as possible. That much I can say with authority, the statistics are too well-documented.
     
    On that note, wouldn’t it qualify as “identity politics” to say that a person isn’t a real Briton unless they support Brexit, regardless of their claims in the matter?
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@iamli3  
Sorry, but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Your constant use of regressive against me proves otherwise. It would be like an SJW yelling cis scum and insisting it wasn’t an SJW lmao. You made comments complaining about how people are getting called out for being racist or not being able to take pride in being Caucasian ffs.
 
And Classical liberals also make up a significant portion of the alt right. It’s just a buzzword thrown around by alt righters so they don’t call themselves conservatives despite the fact they’d gladly flock over to authoritarian right wing populists if it suited their goals.
iamli3
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@Terrans117  
>you are this identity  
>no i am not  
>you are definitely this identity
 
i don’t play the regressive game of identity politics , so you’re never going to win on that front , it is fascinating though how people can become so deluded into their own ideologies as to purport to not just label , but do so with validity and conviction , the identities and ideologies of others , even when staunchly confronted with a rejection of the very premise , let alone the ideologies themselves…..
 
perhaps nuance really is dead , well i intend to bring it back….
 
>Your link to Sargon is even more proof since he is the definition of someone who can’t accept that he isn’t liberal or left wing anymore.
 
that’s why it’s called classical liberalism , it helps to do your research before making specific claims about a particular topic , you know , generally a good idea to follow to prevent yourself from making yourself look like an uneducated ass….  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH0mPfR-K2U
 
>but she is still being hijacked
 
see my reply to pinkamanea….
iamli3
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@Pinkamena 314  
i see how your thought process here can seem reasonable with your own admitted lack of working knowledge , so allow me to make some counter points…
 
i’ll say again , that her heritage has been fanon since day 1 , where have you been exactly?…
 
>but she’s a pony, from Equestria
 
i’ll spare replying with another captain obvious image….
 
>but you are still stating your opinion like it’s a fact.
 
show me an opinion i’ve stated as a fact….
 
>Assuming that Octavia, even if she were British, would support your side is not a reasonable assumption.
 
ouch , you have the reasoning completely backwards here , you’re seeing the result and assuming the intent (which is a major characteristic of the regressive ideology , and most ideologies probably)  
when what is actually the case is an intent which produced a result.  
namely , you’re accusing the artist of changing the character’s political stance in order to support celebrating this.  
when what the artist is actually doing is the intent of celebrating their culture , which has a result of the character being in favor of that , and the projection is manifest in this image.
 
the artist is saying ‘i want to celebrate this , who would have a vested interest in doing this also? ah-ha!’  
not ‘im going to take this character and use them for support for my political stance’
 
do you see the difference?….
 
if you think im wrong you can ask the artist yourself , see what they say….