@Prof.NightJack  
I guess it’s just my nostalgia speaking.

@Background Pony #D2A5  
Form what I have seen people that like the modern Zelda games are not just kids and people that buy every Zelda thing, but people that legitimately can enjoy them and not get overly upset over things they do not like.  
I have been playing Zelda games for years, I have seen how people have dismissed newer ones for not being like older for one reason or another(be it a good reason or not).  
I pointed out the thing of the switch from 2d to 3d as I know people that do not care for the three you says for not being the top-down style.  
When WW was new I knew lots of people that refused to touch it for it’s art style alone.  
People will liker or dislike them for many reason but to think it’s only of set group that like it is stupid  
I like TP a lot, SS I can enjoy but see it;s problem, and from how I can be level headed on the matter I can see where the love went, and as I said it went to the wrong places in SS.
 
I respect that you do not like TP and SS but I’m just saying, they are still Zelda games and it honestly is kind of dumb to act like the series is not the same when it actually did have a big changethat make then three you like not the same as the ones before it.  
By that logic then series before OoT.

@Prof.NightJack  
Maybe they put the same amount of love in them. I wouldn’t know cause I don’t work at Nintendo. All I’m saying is I don’t feel that same magical feeling from modern Zelda games that I felt from those 3 in particular. And that I’m not alone in that department, not by far. In fact, I’ve noticed that the only people who seem to really like modern Zelda games are either little kids, or people who buy every little Zelda accessory. At least from where I stand.  
Again, I don’t know the ins and outs of how they make the games, I can only speak for myself, and people who agree with me.

@Background Pony #D2A5  
No, you just want to ignore my point.  
My point was they where still Zelda game with love put into them, nothing about standing on there own.  
YOU failed to understand my point.

@Prof.NightJack  
Which means you failed to address that point. Give yourself a pat on the back.

@Background Pony #D2A5  
And notice how I never made any of my comments about that?  
It was not any of the topics I was talking of.  
And in my view the call backs to OoT in MM make it not able to stand on it’s own, at lest story wise.

@Prof.NightJack  
“Part of what made OoT, MM, and WW so great is that they worked not only as Zelda games. As in, you could separate them from the Zelda series and they would be just as good.”  
-My second comment about the matter

@Background Pony #D2A5  
Sorry but you didn;t start off with anything about them being able to stand alone.  
“After Wind Waker, you can tell that the later Zelda games are artistically lacking, and just don’t have the same amount of love that went into OoT, MM, and WW.”  
I said in response that they still have some love in them, not anything about if they stand on there own, please do not bring in somthing that was not part of the original comment and say it was.  
Also MM had a lot of call backs to OoT in it so it really can’t stand on it’s own.

@Prof.NightJack  
Here’s a question. Does Skyward Sword work as a standalone game? No. It doesn’t. Whenever you play it, you think of it in relation to the Zelda series. With my three personal favorite, as you probably have guessed, you could play them completely separate from any Zelda game, and it worked. Zelda is barely in Majora’s Mask, and doesn’t turn up until very late in Wind Waker. It makes the adventures feel more fresh and exciting. Playing Skyward Sword just made me feel bored, and actually sad, because I kept getting reminded oh right this is part of an assembly line.
 
This is all my opinion, but still.

@TyroneBiggums  

 
By what you mean, give them different cameo appearances other than Ponies?

@Jarkes  
I’ll agree with that, but to act like TP and SS are not enjoyable on any level and not like other Zelda games is being blind.  
With SS I see that Nintendo put a lot of love into it but just in the wrong areas.  
It’s still Zelda but the only real changes where nonsensical(really, the shield having durability but the weapons do not, that is stupid) or very minor aesthetic changes.

@Jarkes  
I can imagine Mr. Krabs working at Nintendo, going “the Zelda games run on a secret formula, me boy. A formula that gets ’em running for our games.”

@Background Pony #D2A5  
>But every game after Wind Waker has kind of been Nintendo continuously reminding us that they are part of a series, and it just feels like it’s becoming a franchise zombie at this point.
 
This argument can be used for any long running series and can be seen as “it’s not what I liked so it should be part of it”, sorry but no, it’s still Zelda.  
Did you grow up on the Zelda games before those three? If you did you will see how bug a change there was from 2d to 3d so that argument is pointless really, changes happen but that doesn’t mean they are not the same anymore.  
Still feels like Zelda just in newer form, so it’s Zelda.  
Hell calling a lot of long running game series a “franchise zombie” is the most common comment I see for people to sue when they basicly mean “it’s not same, I don’t like it”.
 
>Also, Hyrule Warriors was a pure attempt at capitalization, you can’t even argue against that.  
And yet I’ve seen people like it, so what’s the big deal?

@Prof.NightJack
 
I’m just disappointed how with every new Zelda game in the past 10 years they’ve said that they’re gonna dramatically change the formula, and they really have yet to truly deliver on that.
 
Hell, for all of SS’s changes, it had the WORST example of the typical Zelda plot formula. SS went, “Three MacGuffins (Tablets), storyline boss. Three More MacGuffins (Sacred Flames), storyline boss. Three MORE MacGuffins (portions of the Song of the Hero), storyline boss, final dungeon, final bosses.”
 
Also, nothing about Skyloft’s existence makes any fucking sense.

Hey, what’s going on this thr-
 

 
sigh

@Prof.NightJack  
All I’m saying is that Wind Waker would have been the perfect way to end the Zelda series. Part of what made OoT, MM, and WW so great is that they worked not only as Zelda games. As in, you could separate them from the Zelda series and they would be just as good. Meanwhile, if you do keep them in the same series, WW would have been a perfect ending. But every game after Wind Waker has kind of been Nintendo continuously reminding us that they are part of a series, and it just feels like it’s becoming a franchise zombie at this point. Also, Hyrule Warriors was a pure attempt at capitalization, you can’t even argue against that.

@Background Pony #D2A5  
I have to disagree, to me TP and SS have the same amount of love in them, and with them I’m to often reminded of how people saw WW for a time, people used to bad talk it for it’s change in artistic style and some other things.  
And the “Nintendo just wants money” thing, well ya but also to make an enjoyable game, compared to other companies they still take the time to show they care for there consumers so “just wants money” is a borderline lie.

@Masem  
Nintendo just wants money. In my opinion, Wind Waker was the last fantastic Zelda game. After Wind Waker, you can tell that the later Zelda games are artistically lacking, and just don’t have the same amount of love that went into OoT, MM, and WW. So I can agree with you that Nintendo does seem to try to capitalize off of Zelda, at least more than they used to. It’s sad is all I can say.

@Background Pony #D2A5  
Even if the games are at a difficulty level that is more appropriate for teenagers, Nintendo’s done an excellent job of making sure Link and Zelda are just as much household names as Mario and Kirby via games like SSB.
 
Not everyone is going to get this but this is far less obscure, and more fitting as, say, the Lutece Twins from Trade Ya!

@Masem  
Zelda is more of a teenage thing than a little girl thing. While it’s not an adult reference, like MLP has made before, it’s not something I’d expect little girls to notice.

@Beau Skunky  

 
PPG was a blatant OoT cameo, no idea about Foster’s.

@SuperDEF  
Honestly, I hope they do better than that.

Now all Hasbro has to do is make Mario and Luigi canon Ponies.  
Preferably their Crystal Pony forms from the comics.  

Link is my new favorite pony

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