The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

Jas

Why do you think Breadtube glamorizes the gross parts of LGBT+ history, while ignoring the wholesome stuff? Like I was so happy to find out that the white strip on the trans flag represents non-binary identities, and that it was created by a 50 year old trans women. But then I remembered Contra’s “all older trans people are true scrum” tirade. It’s bad enough that conservatives try to erases the high points of our history, why do so many of us feel the need to do it for them?
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Contrapoints herself identifies as a centrist. Most of Breadtube works the same way. Being Center-Left, but also mad at corporations is 95% of BreadTube. There’s a difference between being Anti-Capitalist and Anti-Corporate and most of BreadTube is Anti-Corporate.
Actual awareness of the nuances of LGBT issues or other social causes isn’t found a whole lot in BreadTube. And when it pops up, their own biases and dogmatic beliefs begin to show. Beliefs they are often stubborn to correct because they’re more concerned about showing off how smart they are than learning.
We’ve seen Lindsay Ellis going on rapid fire bad takes the last few months, and that is a result of her unwillingness to change or examine things she likes. She accuses Disney of making up outrage for marketing and disregards their social improvements as “woke brands” and then turns around and licks the boots of Cartoon Network because she has a grudge with Disney specifically.
She disregards the idea of shipping being problematic because she enjoys shows, books and films with pedophilic romance storylines and she doesn’t want to think about that.
She dismisses the very easy to understand outrage about Contrapoints and blames it on “cancel culture” despite the fact that cancel culture isn’t a real thing yet will turn around and join in on tone-policing herself when the target isn’t someone she knows, because she doesn’t want to criticize her friends.
This was what ultimately got Contrapoints in so much trouble, because she was constantly over-complicating and over-philosophizing some very simple to understand concepts, and injecting her Gender Essentialism into discussions of trans issues because she wanted to show off how smart she was. But because she’s not smart and was drawing largely off her own experiences and presenting them as universal, she put her foot in her mouth.
What makes Hbomberguy continue to be the most popular and well-loved person in BreadTube is the sincerity. He’s a big goof who genuinely means well. Everyone got to watch him learn about trans issues he’d never thought about in real time, and be excited to learn about it. You could call him many things, but dishonest is not one of them.
When he talks about trans issues, he educates himself. As opposed to certain other people who just talk out of their asses and use the fact that they’re trans or bi or “Not like OTHER woke people” as a defense against criticism.
A lot of BreadTube is just people presenting their unquestioned but left-leaning opinions to demonstrate how smart they are. And if you want to just get the advertising dollars, then that works. You can be another Totalbiscuit.
But if you want to actually do good things, promote good ideas, and advocate for people because you actually give any ounce of a shit about things being better… you won’t. You will eventually stumble against your own biases, hit backlash, and continue shooting yourself in the foot until you may as well just be another reactionary Youtuber because the people who matter do not want anything to do with you.
 
Anyone else fan feel free to comment but this is something that made me want to comment.
 
We’ve seen Lindsay Ellis going on rapid fire bad takes the last few months, and that is a result of her unwillingness to change or examine things she likes. She accuses Disney of making up outrage for marketing and disregards their social improvements as “woke brands” and then turns around and licks the boots of Cartoon Network because she has a grudge with Disney specifically.
She disregards the idea of shipping being problematic because she enjoys shows, books and films with pedophilic romance storylines and she doesn’t want to think about that.
 
the crap are you going on about Lily what shows, books and films has the former Nostalgia Chick watched that contend any pedophilic romance themes? I mean shipping really don’t become problematic till you start shipping real people along with harrasing content creators because they won’t make your OTP true. I mean Lily did you forget that someone you know has a character that looks like this.
 
https://archive.li/rs6g8
 
By the way said character is 3 years old who apparently grows up to wear that outfit.
 
https://pokemadhouse.fandom.com/wiki/Sam
 
https://archive.li/sbgKn
 
anonymous asked:
Isn’t it really contrived to have Bonnies date (shouldn’t hsve one a three btw) and Cala’s owner be the same person?
 
Yes.
shouldn’t hsve one a three btw 
If that’s what she ends up doing, then that’s what she ends up doing. You really expect Comic!Lily to argue with a three year old about what specifically to call a friend she likes?
 
Said three year old dressed clothing that looks like said girls family sells her body yep Lily good job thinking of the kids there.
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@Jas  
Do you realize that artwork is suppose to be when the character in question is older, right?
Jas

Aren’t you worried about leftist infighting though?
Anonymous
 
No. Leftist Infighting is like Cancel Culture. It isn’t actually real.
There are some people who are stupid enough to do shit like “Bernie or Bust” bit they aren’t a majority. When the time comes, the Left understands the value of unity and votes accordingly.
Fights about who h YouTubers are good and what Breadtube’s issues are… They’re not the same level of fighting. On an average day, I’d expect leftists to be fighting. That’s what happens in a diverse group. That’s how growth and progress is made. I’d be more alarmed if the left didn’t fight because that is homogeny and stagnation.
Getting along is a myth. We’re a diverse group of people and our wants and needs don’t always line up. And that’s okay.
It’s good that we don’t always get along. It’s good that we’re always in a state of argument and debate. It’s good that our wants and needs don’t always line up or fit into a compromise. Because throwing our incompatible ideas into the arena to slug it out is how we learn which ideas are worthy to begin with.
Peace, however comfortable it is, is stagnation. Conflict, however messy, is life.
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@Jas  
So in other words, fuck common ground, constant throat tearing and backstabbing is how we make progress according to Lily. Good to know. Also,
 
>”I’d be more alarmed if the left didn’t fight because that is homogeny and stagnation.”
 
Did she miss the part in one of the previous Democrat primaries where everybody raised their hands for having as part of their manifesto, a plan to give free health care to any tom, dick, and Sanchez who sashays across the Sonoran desert and across the fence line? I’m pretty sure they’re all finding homogeny through plans that will require taxing the hell out of the average citizen in order to pay for people that have no incentive to follow the rules or give back.
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@Jas  
I only take issue with it if someone says it’s ok to make fun of straight people, but say that it isn’t okay to do the same to LBGT+ people.
 
It’s either everyone can be made fun of or no one can be made fun of.
Jas

This was something I saw on Kiwi Farms a while back but the archive website was messing up so here is the source.
 
https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/189395358940/what-do-you-think-about-the-controversy-around
 
What do you think about the controversy around Nessa? Some people say Game Freak oversexualizes female gym leaders in their games
Anonymous
 
They do. Going back as far as Gen 1 where Misty was in a full on bikini despite being 12 years old, and as time has gone on the issue just keeps popping up.
That’s not a disputable fact. It is a thing they do. And the fact that they do it so consistently is a point where the ears perk up and people go “Game Freak, are you being weird about female characters again?”
“Gym Leader in a negligee” should not be such a predictable occurrence.
 
Sane people: (don’t see swimwear as sexual)
 
Soccer moms and Social Justice Warriors: (sexualize everything even if it isn’t sexual in nature)
 
Though seriously for someone who doesn’t like being accused of being a pedo she sure does seem to accidentally come across as one. I mean I’ve know I haven’t played Pokemon games in ages after Pokemon Black/White 2 but not all the female trainers NPCs are sexual looking.
Jas

@Angrybrony
 
Yeah I am aware that some swimwear can be pretty sexual but that doesn’t mean swimwear in and of it’s self is sexual just like how not all nudity isn’t sexual in nature. Still I wonder what pokemon games Lily has been seeing to see consistent sexual pokemon female trainers…….Or where you being sarcastic and it somehow flew over my head?
Jas

I just found a Dr. Wolf video entitled “maybe Pony Life will be goofy so that Gen 5 will be serious”. First time in my life I wanted to punch a therapist in the face.
Anonymous
 
It’s My Little Fucking Pony you dumb furry bastard!
 
Said My Little Pony show which from what I was spoiled to turned a filly into stone. Which you, your self complained about because she is a child. As for OP chill out it is just a cartoon.
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