The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

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@Jas  
Anonymous:
What are your thoughts on SegaSister’s rampage on Lily?
I think SegaSister needs help. Her attitude towards Lily wavers constantly, and she’s incredibly traumatized- not just by Toon, but by a lot of other people.
I feel this way about a lot of Lily’s detractors. Every single one of them seems super traumatized and they channel all of that shit into attacking not just Lily, but all of her loved ones. They need help.
 
I’m guessing that’s Peet under another name.
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@Vortaxonus  
No doubt he did. Hearing he withheld Patch’s story pretty much solidifies it.
 
Then again, he’s also mad Josh had an investigation underway, when he would have wanted him to yell “HEY! WE KNOW ABOUT YOU AND WE’RE COMING FOR YOU!” which would have given him a chance to scrub clean and run off. Much like with Anita was talking about getting the FBI involved. They tell you to stay quiet or you give them a chance to get away and she megaphoned it.
 
Which lead many to believe she was lying about talking to the FBI and especially lying about getting threats.
 
Peet’s sleaze feels like he know how it worked, and knew how to work it for his own gain. Blame people for not speaking out, when knowing that’s the exact thing authorities tell you not to do.
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I wonder if what would happen if Peet was confronted with people who Peet victimized.
 
I wonder if she’d “believe the victim” or not. Since Pet says you should always, but then again they’re against Peet.
 
It really sucks. There’s no good way to break brainwashing without essentially destroying everything that person believes in.
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@Jas  
Anonymous:
What are your thoughts on SegaSister’s rampage on Lily?
I think SegaSister needs help. Her attitude towards Lily wavers constantly, and she’s incredibly traumatized- not just by Toon, but by a lot of other people.
I feel this way about a lot of Lily’s detractors. Every single one of them seems super traumatized and they channel all of that shit into attacking not just Lily, but all of her loved ones. They need help.
 
Says the fucking moron who didn’t bother talking and her story is falling apart.
 
Shut the hell up for once patchwork and stop denouncing the other victims because your cult leader says so.
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@maud pie of the Well  
What do you mean her story is falling apart?
 
Because if so, that would mean, she is a faux-victim, and That is one reason why a lot probably didn’t take the Toon thing seriously, because there had been many like that who have attacked the fandom.
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Can I get some? I haven’t heard her story so I wouldn’t know where the plot holes are.
 
If this is true, this should be brought up, so then she can face what she’s doing not only with siding with an abuser but taking away from other victims.
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Here’s an image I found on Twitter that makes fun of Lily Peet’s “The Legend of Korra is Garbage and Here’s Why” video. I thought it was pretty amusing, especially since it sums up Lily perfectly.  
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Reminds me of the “welcome to” videos where they fun of people like Peet.
 
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the reason people hate analyst channels they had some run in with Peet in some form or another.
 
I know some didn’t like that one guy with the Male version of Sweetie Belle Oc, although never really understood why. Maybe the funk of Peet caused it. Who really knows.
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DigiBrony (aka Digibro)? He kind of started the MLP anyalist community and was really well respected.
 
But his later reviews he changed his style of reviewing (his reviews went from long an analytical to short and a bit more personal), he changed his OC (from looking happy and cheery to depressed and constantly smoking), he started getting negative and cynical (not just in his reviews but towards other people), and he got a huge ego as well. People could barely talk to him anymore because of his attitude and since it was getting clear that he was falling out of love with reviewing the show, he eventually dropped it. He now does pretty much only anime reviews now (and he’s pretty big there but still rather controversial).
 
Lily did make a video calling out Digi’s bad behavior but at the same time, she did so by mocking his mental breakdown (which in hindsight seems rather incentive). In that video she recommended for people to stop watching Digi and switch over to Silver Quill. I thought it was funny back then because I was getting tired of Digi’s attitude but in hindsight I think making fun of the guy when he was mentally at his lowest does come off as really mean spirited.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if Lily helped him lose some of his fanbase but he was kind of doing that on his own to be honest with you.
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Anonymous asked:
OOC, what about Josh’s actions are unchristian specifically?
 
The unkindness, the unfairness, the manipulativeness, etc. Christianity means doing your best to be a good person; ergo, being shitty (and making excuses for it instead of trying to improve) equals not being Christian.
 
I would say explain more but trust me the second one is where it gets good.
 
https://smartblondesandsarcasm.tumblr.com/post/171076579342/thats-not-what-i-was-asking-though-what-about
 
Anonymous asked:
Thats not what I was asking though. What about him is manipulative? What action does he need to take to /be/ christian? I get that you don’t like him, that a lot of people don’t like him on the grounds that he shouldn’t be posting videos, that he shouldnt be withholding a confession while he’s in the process of filing reports, I know all of these are reasons why his beliefs don’t line up with yours. I just want to know what makes Josh as awful as everyone says specifically.
 
I mean, I’ve already answered your question.
He’s manipulating Xain by twisting words and using false arguments to avoid blame. He’s still keeping up all those videos despite the fact that they do harm to the victims, and this is how he responds to criticism to take them down. He is still associating with a known pedophile, despite saying otherwise, and is not taking the steps he needs to do otherwise.
Not to mention everything else he’s done. Accusing Lily of being abusive because she disagreed with the beliefs that dehumanized her and others. Putting up that awful response video knowing that his audience would respond by sending her death threats (his fourth video of the sort, and the second directed at Lily. There is a known precedent for this), and keeping it uploaded despite the fact that both Xain and Alex Rochon have since regretted appearing in it and have asked Josh to take it down. Not taking Xain’s severe anxieties over the 2016 election seriously, to the point where Lily and I invited him into her Discord server, and he quickly found more friendship and support with us than he’d ever had with Josh.
Josh’s behaviour is awful, and he is extremely bad at taking responsibility for it and improving. He himself admits to being “bad at tact,” and here he is doing it again.
 
hay Lizzy last time I checked your also a Christian and Xain doesn’t have friendship he went to what is pretty
 
much a cult. You, Xain, and Patch are also in for a harsh realty when ever Peet decides you are no longer of any
 
use to her because you not understanding why people are worried for you three.
 
https://smartblondesandsarcasm.tumblr.com/post/171083214042/i-know-you-think-im-a-jackass-hell-you-might-be
 
generallemarc asked:
I know you think I’m a jackass. Hell, you might be right. But Lily’s fans are currently going all-out on Josh rn, and we both know he doesn’t deserve it. If he “knew” his fans would send Lily death threats, then she knows hers will do the same to him. Can you make a plea for them to stop, or maybe ask her to do the same?
 
  1. You ARE being a jackass.
  2. Josh is not, to my knowledge, receiving threats of death, rape, B&E or stalking. Lily was.
  3. He is receiving CRITICISM, because he did something wrong. And you equating that to the above is also wrong.
  4. Lily does know her audience, and those who do cross the line will be dealt with. We once had someone in her Discord server try to commission me drawing them murdering Josh. I told Lily, and she immediately told them off and permanently banned them from the server. Everyone, including Xain, who was still friends with Josh at the time, was furious with them when they found out.
  5. You want to talk about people going on an attack who should stop? How about all the people you reblog who accuse Lily of abusing me, or me abusing her, or me being either deluded or an apologist?
 
yes how dare people care for your well being and you are one to talk when you are ignoring the pain Josh, Blake,
 
and Brittney went through. It doesn’t matter if Josh isn’t getting threats of death, rape, B&E or stalking.
 
ganging up on someone who is a victim is still wrong and yes despite what Patch thinks Toon’s ex-friends and ex-
 
co-workers are indeed victims.
Jas

Here is what is a couple of things from the archives that platinummanaxl had that feel talk worthy.
 
anonymous asked:
Lunacorva said that because he’s left-wing and Josh is right-wing and they’re friends, there’s no reason other people can’t get along with conservatives. Thoughts?
 
Lunacorva isn’t an abberation. There are a lot of left-wing people who can be friends with conservative people. But that comes with the caveat that they’re usually people who don’t have anything to lose.
Let’s say you take the shittiest possible version of conservatives, the ones who want to purge all the immigrants out of the country, force gay and trans people into conversion therapy, wants to severely cut taxes on the rich, and thinks Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization. If you can be friends with that person, there’s a 95% chance that you’re white, straight, male and upper middle class, and therefore none of those beliefs affect you.
And it requires someone so myopic to think that politics are just unimportant opinions that don’t severely affect people.
That describes Lunacorva. He’s a privileged dick, he’s ignorant of the fact that politics actually has real world affects for most people, and he’s proud of that ignorance. Lunacorva actively thinks it’s a good thing that he strips all the consequences and nuance out of politics to turn it into just random opinions like your taste in food. He thinks it’s stupid to be hurt by someone’s opinions, even if that opinion is “I don’t think you deserve basic rights.” He’s virtue signalling how “tolerant” he is of dehumanizing bigotry.
So when you ignore the fact that the majority of Josh’s opinions are “Everyone not like me is the devil, and people who care about things I don’t care about are snowflakes” then yeah, it’s easy to be friends with him.
But that doesn’t mean other people need to start ignoring it, it means Lunacorva needs to pull his head out of his ass, grow a heart, and learn to empathize. Then maybe one day he’ll become a real boy.
 
Peet you are doggone victim blaming Toon’s former friends you have lost the chance to talk about empathizing
 
robicoolbear asked:
How the fuck is Sega getting away with this shit?
 
She devolves into histrionic fits when challenged and nobody knows how to handle it.
 
Keep this up Peet you are also attacking other one of toons victims.
Jas

@Revolution512
 
sad how the victims only matter to Peet when they are not calling her out. So did you see the things Lizzy said that I copy and pasted? What are you thoughts on them?
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